We Ugly People dont deserve to be in this planet

[death137]

I believe ugliness should be classified as a disability and anyone who is ugly should be given compensation. Some ugly people prefer to live and I respect their choice but some of us prefer to die and we should be allowed to die. Not only us uglies but anyone who wants to die should be allowed to end it in less painful method/s.

 

[humanhuman]

Ugliness is an illusion, an idea always changing. What is ugly today may be beautiful in the future, and what was once beautiful in the past may be ugly today. It's a marketing ploy, an agenda. I know it still hurts to be labeled ugly, and that's real, but "ugly" is not real, not true. Don't be chained by illusions, you're free.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Ugliness is an illusion, an idea always changing. What is ugly today may be beautiful in the future, and what was once beautiful in the past may be ugly today. It's a marketing ploy, an agenda. I know it still hurts to be labeled ugly, and that's real, but "ugly" is not real, not true. Don't be chained by illusions, you're free.

That's pretty delusional.

You mean to tell me that, for example, the girl in my pfp will be deemed ugly tomorrow? Or some 300 lbs man with crooked teeth will be deemed beautiful?

That is some next level COPIUM LMAO

 

[Maaizr]

Ugliness is an illusion, an idea always changing. What is ugly today may be beautiful in the future, and what was once beautiful in the past may be ugly today. It's a marketing ploy, an agenda. I know it still hurts to be labeled ugly, and that's real, but "ugly" is not real, not true. Don't be chained by illusions, you're free.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I think the people declaring themselves ugly in this thread are putting too much weight towards looks. Most people are average looking, not ugly and even "ugly" people look better with a good personality and mind.

Also I can tell you from experience that being pretty causes it's own problems and a lot of people lie to you and treat you differently because they want something from you. Other people usually of the same gender are jealous and will try to work against you or bring you down in other ways to make themselves feel better.

I wish I was never attractive and now that my attractiveness is gone it is a whole new thing to deal with, but the attention that I got when I was above average attractive is attention I didn't really want and added nothing to my life in the long term

Looks do matter big time, amd being a shitty person on the inside isn't a requirement to be attractive on the outside. A beautiful person can be really nice just like an ugly person can be an ass. In fact being a good person on the inside is incredibly easy to do. Being attractive on the outside can be completely out of your control.

Physical appearance can open a lot of doors. Let's take Pokimane for an example. She makes a lot of money just by being alive and streaming on twitch. Compare her to some random neckbeard on twitch, who do you think people will most likely watch and why? Someone like Pokimane LITERALLY has a million dollar appearance. And please DO NOT give me that bs of how it's more worthwhile to put in a lot of effort just to get by vs the easy way out, because that is just pure COPIUM.

As for attractive people having it bad, yes in some respects. But ugly people face more rejection, being made fun of, ostracizing and discrimination than pretty people. I think if everyone had the option, most (if not all) would choose to be attractive.

 

[Alex6216]

To be fair, 70ish% or higher of the entire world is skinnyfat, overweight and/or obese. Almost everyone is ugly nowadays, myself included although for the time I am alive I am working to improve myself

 

[WorthlessTrash]

To be fair, 70ish% or higher of the entire world is skinnyfat, overweight and/or obese. Almost everyone is ugly nowadays, myself included although for the time I am alive I am working to improve myself

I dont think anyone needs to look like a bombshell model to be considered attractive.

 

[Alex6216]

I dont think anyone needs to look like a bombshell model to be considered attractive.

They dont, they just need to be normal in terms of body fat which is something not many people have nowadays for reasons I dont know, perhaps microplastics or laziness or meat or sugary food who knows

 

[WorthlessTrash]

They dont, they just need to be normal in terms of body fat which is something not many people have nowadays for reasons I dont know, perhaps microplastics or laziness or meat or sugary food who knows

Laziness brought on by depression is def a factor. It's why I gained 100 lbs in the last year.

 

[Al Cappella]

This is not a discussion that will ever have an end to it, and you'll never convince anyone saying they're ugly that they aren't. Sometimes it even fills a need because, if I'm ugly, then it isn't my fault—and so I don't take responsibility, and won't face that I actually have to do something to attract people.

The other reason the ugly thing is pointless—it's 100% judgement, and doesn't objectively exist. Now I know, "hang on, that's stupid—it's been shown that people are inclined to find symmetrical faces with a certain range of features attractive, as well as bodies that exhibit the likelihood of reproductive health…" and walk into any high school or college and you know instantly what attractive is… Sure. That is true. But it is also true those are values, narratives, that could easily go another way.

The first thing you need is an understanding of who you can attract, and who you can't. If you insist on punching outside your weight class, you're going to be disappointed, guaranteed. You have to learn how to maximize on your appeal, and focus on what you do have, not what you don't.

 

[Maaizr]

This is not a discussion that will ever have an end to it, and you'll never convince anyone saying they're ugly that they aren't. Sometimes it even fills a need because, if I'm ugly, then it isn't my fault—and so I don't take responsibility, and won't face that I actually have to do something to attract people.

The other reason the ugly thing is pointless—it's 100% judgement, and doesn't objectively exist. Now I know, "hang on, that's stupid—it's been shown that people are inclined to find symmetrical faces with a certain range of features attractive, as well as bodies that exhibit the likelihood of reproductive health…" and walk into any high school or college and you know instantly what attractive is… Sure. That is true. But it is also true those are values, narratives, that could easily go another way.

The first thing you need is an understanding of who you can attract, and who you can't. If you insist on punching outside your weight class, you're going to be disappointed, guaranteed. You have to learn how to maximize on your appeal, and focus on what you do have, not what you don't.

so what youre basically telling ugly people is that they might aswell "settle" for someone lest they risk being forever alone? i thought people hated when you do that too

 

[WorthlessTrash]

This is not a discussion that will ever have an end to it, and you'll never convince anyone saying they're ugly that they aren't. Sometimes it even fills a need because, if I'm ugly, then it isn't my fault—and so I don't take responsibility, and won't face that I actually have to do something to attract people.

The other reason the ugly thing is pointless—it's 100% judgement, and doesn't objectively exist. Now I know, "hang on, that's stupid—it's been shown that people are inclined to find symmetrical faces with a certain range of features attractive, as well as bodies that exhibit the likelihood of reproductive health…" and walk into any high school or college and you know instantly what attractive is… Sure. That is true. But it is also true those are values, narratives, that could easily go another way.

The first thing you need is an understanding of who you can attract, and who you can't. If you insist on punching outside your weight class, you're going to be disappointed, guaranteed. You have to learn how to maximize on your appeal, and focus on what you do have, not what you don't.

You cannot help who you are or are not attracted to. This is why no one is at fault for having preferences. The only "one" to blame is biology and genetics.

Also settling for someone can lead to unsatisfactory relationships. No one will be happy if someone is settling.

There's also the issue that if you go through your life without someone being attracted to you, you may as well feel objectively unattractive.

Lastly, being attractive does not JUST extend to how others see you. It also extends to how you are able view and feel about yourself.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

I wish everyone looked like who they are inside. A lot of good looking people would be super ugly.

I would just look like cakes, cheeseburgers and Oxycodone!

 

[Superdeterminist]

The first thing you need is an understanding of who you can attract, and who you can't. If you insist on punching outside your weight class, you're going to be disappointed, guaranteed. You have to learn how to maximize on your appeal, and focus on what you do have, not what you don't.

This perspective is the worst part of it all, IMO. It's the biggest cause for despair. The idea that there's a hierarchy of attractiveness and you better not even THINK about those above you because you're inferior. This idea is the strongest affirmation that there is in fact true 'objective' ugliness in the world. "Stick to your league" is really just another way of being told you can never achieve your dreams. I don't have an outright opposition to this realist view, but I do think that selling it as something positive or even neutral, rather than a miserable fact to bemoan, is silly.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I'm going to say that I don't agree with the OP's thoughts. I think being ugly is a valid reason to CTB, but I think any ugly person who wants to try to make it in life shouldn't feel like they're not allowed to try even if their odds are questionable at best.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I'm going to say that I don't agree with the OP's thoughts. I think being ugly is a valid reason to CTB, but I think any ugly person who wants to try to make it in life shouldn't feel like they're not allowed to try even if their odds are questionable at best.

Being ugly is a valid reason. It isn't even worth the struggle you will just make yourself more traumatized even trying like me for example

 

[ansiedad]

I'm ugly too, and nobody's wants me.

 

[Weebster]

I think the people declaring themselves ugly in this thread are putting too much weight towards looks. Most people are average looking, not ugly and even "ugly" people look better with a good personality and mind.

Also I can tell you from experience that being pretty causes it's own problems and a lot of people lie to you and treat you differently because they want something from you. Other people usually of the same gender are jealous and will try to work against you or bring you down in other ways to make themselves feel better.

I wish I was never attractive and now that my attractiveness is gone it is a whole new thing to deal with, but the attention that I got when I was above average attractive is attention I didn't really want and added nothing to my life in the long term

Exactly. Being attractive is a different kind of curse

 

[Alex6216]

Laziness brought on by depression is def a factor. It's why I gained 100 lbs in the last year.

You should look up r/bodyweightfitness on Reddit, look on the sidebar and press BWF for beginners or recommended routine. Also calculate your TDEE and eat 500 kcal less than that, remove all cakes and coke and chocolate and artificial sugars and eat mostly Vegetables, some fruit and beans and meat if you want if you dislike meat eat soy and pea protein powder and what not but dont eat more than your BMR

 

[WorthlessTrash]

You should look up r/bodyweightfitness on Reddit, look on the sidebar and press BWF for beginners or recommended routine. Also calculate your TDEE and eat 500 kcal less than that, remove all cakes and coke and chocolate and artificial sugars and eat mostly Vegetables, some fruit and beans and meat if you want if you dislike meat eat soy and pea protein powder and what not but dont eat more than your BMR

The thing is I don't want to take care of my body lol why would I want to do that when I hate the male body in it's entirety?

If I was to do that, I'd already be doing 4 hour walks, drinking crystal light amd going to the gym XD I'm going to hate my appearance regardless of how "fit" I am lol My AGAB is the entire reason for me wanting to CTB lol

 

[Famous Last Words]

I think there's spiritual beauty - like when you meet people and regardless of age and physical appearance, they are beautiful because they radiate love and kindness and they wear this on their faces. As George Orwell said, "At 50, everyone has the face he deserves,"

Then there's physical beauty but this is really a reflection of health and fades quickly if you don't care of yourself. Even if you're not blessed with the best genetics, for the majority of people, if you eat properly, avoid excessive sugar and ultra-processed food, get enough sunlight, exercise and lift weights regularly, you can still be attractive into your 40s and 50s.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I think there's spiritual beauty - like when you meet people and regardless of age and physical appearance, they are beautiful because they radiate love and kindness and they wear this on their faces. As George Orwell said, "At 50, everyone has the face he deserves,"

Then there's physical beauty but this is really a reflection of health and fades quickly if you don't care of yourself. Even if you're not blessed with the best genetics, for the majority of people, if you eat properly, avoid excessive sugar and ultra-processed food, get enough sunlight, exercise and lift weights regularly, you can still be attractive into your 40s and 50s.

I guess, but if you have the looks, you'd be more likeky to be motivated to care about yourself. At least that's how it feels for me.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I think there's spiritual beauty - like when you meet people and regardless of age and physical appearance, they are beautiful because they radiate love and kindness and they wear this on their faces. As George Orwell said, "At 50, everyone has the face he deserves,"

Then there's physical beauty but this is really a reflection of health and fades quickly if you don't care of yourself. Even if you're not blessed with the best genetics, for the majority of people, if you eat properly, avoid excessive sugar and ultra-processed food, get enough sunlight, exercise and lift weights regularly, you can still be attractive into your 40s and 50s.

Those are a lot of hoops to jump through just to delay the inevitable by a few years at most. And I don't think that following those steps will guarantee anything. Life never allows things to be so simple. You know this and that's why you qualify with "for most people"...so really there is no such narrative we can place our faith in.

 

[Al Cappella]

so what youre basically telling ugly people is that they might aswell "settle" for someone lest they risk being forever alone? i thought people hated when you do that too

I don't see it as settling at all. Just speaking for me—I know I can't, let's be silly for a moment, attract a super model. Or a theoretical physicist with 4 phds, etc. Now I can still make a go of it and try, the same way I could try the lottery as a retirement savings plan.

You cannot help who you are or are not attracted to. This is why no one is at fault for having preferences. The only "one" to blame is biology and genetics.

Also settling for someone can lead to unsatisfactory relationships. No one will be happy if someone is settling.

There's also the issue that if you go through your life without someone being attracted to you, you may as well feel objectively unattractive.

Lastly, being attractive does not JUST extend to how others see you. It also extends to how you are able view and feel about yourself.

I don't disagree that you can't help who you're attracted to. Believe me, I've been there, attracted—and not just surface stuff, I still think of her 30 years later—to someone who did not feel the same about me. It hurt. A lot. So I went where I was wanted. Of course people have the right to do what they need to do, if that includes remaining alone, etc.

This perspective is the worst part of it all, IMO. It's the biggest cause for despair. The idea that there's a hierarchy of attractiveness and you better not even THINK about those above you because you're inferior. This idea is the strongest affirmation that there is in fact true 'objective' ugliness in the world. "Stick to your league" is really just another way of being told you can never achieve your dreams. I don't have an outright opposition to this realist view, but I do think that selling it as something positive or even neutral, rather than a miserable fact to bemoan, is silly.

What's too bad is the idea that this is about looks. It isn't. I know I said, above, "super model", and held that as an unattainable ideal. That is stupid—and really misguided. Number one, super models are selected for media fodder as a way to sell a completely arbitrary beauty ideal.

Second, I can't attract one—not because I'm ugly—but because I don't move in their monied circles. The real hierarchy, the one that (unfortunately) truly matters, is socio-economic status. We're I a major rock star—guess what, I'd have no worries, assuming I have some confidence and swagger. But I don't, and I'm not.

I realize any sort of positive outlook, well, you mention it at your own peril. Just realize anything I say or believe doesn't make the lightest damn bit of difference. My saying anything was ultimately pointless. If someone absolutely believes their thing comes down to being ugly—you then can't say anything useful. If you agree, you make things worse. Same result if you disagree.

 

[come to dust]

I feel a great shame that as an ugly man I feel a sense of attractiom towards models. Models are the last group of people who would ever find me attractive.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I don't see it as settling at all. Just speaking for me—I know I can't, let's be silly for a moment, attract a super model. Or a theoretical physicist with 4 phds, etc. Now I can still make a go of it and try, the same way I could try the lottery as a retirement savings plan.


I don't disagree that you can't help who you're attracted to. Believe me, I've been there, attracted—and not just surface stuff, I still think of her 30 years later—to someone who did not feel the same about me. It hurt. A lot. So I went where I was wanted. Of course people have the right to do what they need to do, if that includes remaining alone, etc.


What's too bad is the idea that this is about looks. It isn't. I know I said, above, "super model", and held that as an unattainable ideal. That is stupid—and really misguided. Number one, super models are selected for media fodder as a way to sell a completely arbitrary beauty ideal.

Second, I can't attract one—not because I'm ugly—but because I don't move in their monied circles. The real hierarchy, the one that (unfortunately) truly matters, is socio-economic status. We're I a major rock star—guess what, I'd have no worries, assuming I have some confidence and swagger. But I don't, and I'm not.

I realize any sort of positive outlook, well, you mention it at your own peril. Just realize anything I say or believe doesn't make the lightest damn bit of difference. My saying anything was ultimately pointless. If someone absolutely believes their thing comes down to being ugly—you then can't say anything useful. If you agree, you make things worse. Same result if you disagree.

I don't think you make things worse. To me it seems obvious that certain people lose out because of physical features that they didn't choose. You do have to be careful with your wording because telling someone they're just plain ugly will offend most people. But it's true to say that none of us choose how we look and it's a kind of lottery.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

I believe ugliness should be classified as a disability and anyone who is ugly should be given compensation.

"Pay up, Chad. You've had your sex and career, now pay the fuck up!!! Gimmie that gaming PC, Chad, 10,000 dollars per virginity taken."

 

[Maaizr]

I realize any sort of positive outlook, well, you mention it at your own peril. Just realize anything I say or believe doesn't make the lightest damn bit of difference. My saying anything was ultimately pointless. If someone absolutely believes their thing comes down to being ugly—you then can't say anything useful. If you agree, you make things worse. Same result if you disagree.

cool, as long as you know

 

[death137]

 

[Al Cappella]

"Pay up, Chad. You've had your sex and career, now pay the fuck up!!! Gimmie that gaming PC, Chad, 10,000 dollars per virginity taken."

I totally agree. And right after, there should be a pizzaface tax twice that amount, to compensate folks for having to look at all that ugliness. I mean come on, I just ate, for fuck's sake.