We are already immortal. I think.

[LivingDeadTGirl]

Sorry, that time you shit your pants exists forever (if you're 30+ and say you haven't shit your pants, you're a liar).

What do I mean? If you're familiar with the 10 dimensions, or if you've seen Interstellar, I can paint a better picture.

As 3rd dimensional beings, we experience time linearly, right? And supposedly extra dimensional beings, say in the 4th dimension, or in the wormhole by Deep Space 9, or even Dr Manhattan in the HBO series Watchmen (ep 8) experience all time at once. They can simultaneously experience your happiest moment and your worst moment. And since time travel doesn't work like in Back to the Future, and only one universal timeline doesn't exist but every possible outcome that could exist does exist (the 10th dimension being a single point encompassing all of existence) - we exist forever in this moment and that one and that one and every moment we have ever had!

If all the technobabble is true... we are already immortal. Right?

Dying used to be my biggest fear, and this thought was a comfort to me then. Ironically, now if I'm not numbed by being stoned all day, all I doing is think about catching the bus.

 

[platypus77]

Technically we're all Schrödinger's pants, simultaneously clean and shat at the same time until someone observes us.

"Wubba lubba dub-dub!" - Rick C-137

 

[Adûnâi]

Maybe that what Savitri Devi means by the Eternal Now?

 

[Hollowman]

Don't worry we're not immortal.

 

[shadows_and_silence]

technically, everything in the universe happened already. the movement in the physical dimensions plus your movement in the time dimension is equal to the speed of light, so that concludes time is a dimension that is very similar to the other dimensions.

now, do i think this makes us immortal? no, we have a part in the dimension where we are dead. sometimes i think we are all immortal in our own universe as we all live in the universe we don't die in, and everything happens to prevent it

 

[LivingDeadTGirl]

technically, everything in the universe happened already.

I'm gonna stop right there and say that's the 10th dimension. A single point encompassing all universes that ever have and will exist.

If a being can move throughout the dimensions, our lives will always be available to navigate to, therefore we're just as technically immortal as we are technically dead.

 

[shadows_and_silence]

I'm gonna stop right there and say that's the 10th dimension. A single point encompassing all universes that ever have and will exist.

If a being can move throughout the dimensions, our lives will always be available to navigate to, therefore we're just as technically immortal as we are technically dead.

my point exactly. the distinction between living and dead kind of blurs when you start to view time as a dimension

 

[LivingDeadTGirl]

You're alive when you make a choice. There is still free will in the present. An extradimensional being can see your whole life simultaneously, however, you still made every choice of your own free will in this universe. If you made a different choice, it would be a different universe. But you were still alive when you did it. You're alive right now reading this. You'll always be alive right now reading this, and you've been alive your whole 3rd dimensional, linear life, and every moment of your life will always will be right here in this dimension. From shitting your pants as an adult, to fapping to hentai, we're immortal in a way, no?

 

[Hvergelmir]

If all the technobabble is true...

That's a big if.

Frankly speaking the talk about dimensions in this thread, is pseudoscientific nonsense. A dimension is an abstract mathematical concept.
When science say 3D, that just mean that we need 3 parameters to define a position: usually denoted x, y, z. If things are moving you need a 4th number: x, y, z, t.
If we're referring some multiverse (maybe a server if it's simulated) we need yet another: x, y, z, t, w.
If the model is relativistic, depending on the observers speed relative to the subject, we need even more "dimensions".

Dimensions are not a physical thing. Physical things can however be described by a multi-dimensional structure (x, y, z).
By giving every position in the universe a unique number, we could use a 1 dimensional coordinate. It's just more convenient with 3, when calculating physics.
In geography, every place have a name - that's a 1-dimensional description of space.

You can however philosophically question and redefine existence.

Usually we refer to what we can observe in the present, to determine if something exists or not. You can however refer to the past, a hypothetical world, or even a book.
The magic in Harry Potter exist in the sense that it's written down, and we can refer to it. Why would that kind of existence be less 'real' that the one we happen to observe? I don't think it'll lead to any valuable insights, but who knows?

Immortal usually means that we can't die. Feel free to redefine life, death, and mortality. But like with existence; to what end?

 

[LivingDeadTGirl]

That's a big if.

Frankly speaking the talk about dimensions in this thread, is pseudoscientific nonsense. A dimension is an abstract mathematical concept.
When science say 3D, that just mean that we need 3 parameters to define a position: usually denoted x, y, z. If things are moving you need a 4th number: x, y, z, t.
If we're referring some multiverse (maybe a server if it's simulated) we need yet another: x, y, z, t, w.
If the model is relativistic, depending on the observers speed relative to the subject, we need even more "dimensions".

Dimensions are not a physical thing. Physical things can however be described by a multi-dimensional structure (x, y, z).
By giving every position in the universe a unique number, we could use a 1 dimensional coordinate. It's just more convenient with 3, when calculating physics.
In geography, every place have a name - that's a 1-dimensional description of space.

You can however philosophically question and redefine existence.

Usually we refer to what we can observe in the present, to determine if something exists or not. You can however refer to the past, a hypothetical world, or even a book.
The magic in Harry Potter exist in the sense that it's written down, and we can refer to it. Why would that kind of existence be less 'real' that the one we happen to observe? I don't think it'll lead to any valuable insights, but who knows?

Immortal usually means that we can't die. Feel free to redefine life, death, and mortality. But like with existence; to what end?

 

[Hvergelmir]

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Sincere apologies for overestimating your intellectual curiosity. It's a bad habit of mine. I'll avoid interacting with your creative writing in the future..

 

[LivingDeadTGirl]

Appreciate it

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

You talk about eternalism and the 4-dimensional block universe. It only needs one additional dimension to look from the outside at a block universe.
Or with other words, if life is a video, a video still exists when it is not watched.
And yes, what is the duration of now. If it is zero, nothing would exist. If it has a duration, why not very long.

 

[Pluto]