Warning: There might be a high profile scammer active on the board.

[MeltingHeart]

Don't know if anyone uses the term anymore, but we always used to call it having a good shit detector. Some people develop a good one, some never do.

Scammers have always existed, call them con-men or charlatans or grifters or hustlers or just plain crooks. They were in ancient Egypt and Greece and Rome and in every society that has ever existed. Just because we now have the internet doesn't mean that the phenomenon is new.

Someone posted earlier--and I have heard this sentiment from many people my whole life--that their rule in life is to never trust anyone.
I strongly disagree and I think that's rather sad. If you let that happen to you then in some way the hustlers have won. I trust people until they give me a reason not to. And I also happen to have a very old but well-built, well-oiled, fully functional shit detector!

its strange because I had a feeling something wasnt right, though I would not have been able to explain to anyone at the time why I felt that, it was as they say a 'gut' feeling... I am not sure if i am saying this now retroactively knowing what I do now, but its almost like I was strangely drawn to this person- to engage with them in conversation... atleast in part because I could sense something wasnt quite right & i think i was even subconsciously trying to suss them out.

 

[fightingsioux]

its strange because I had a feeling something wasnt right, though I would not have been able to explain to anyone at the time why I felt that, it was as they say a 'gut' feeling... I am not sure if i am saying this now retroactively knowing what I do now, but its almost like I was strangely drawn to this person- to engage with them in conversation... atleast in part because I could sense something wasnt quite right & i think i was even subconsciously trying to suss them out.

That's the sound of your shit detector going off. :-)

 

[LonelyLight]

Yeah, I feel you. I was in the same position 2 years ago - I wanted to buy fentanyl for myself so I could ctb peacefully but I didn't know how to do it. I simply didn't understand how the darknet works and I was lost. But it was the reason why I started to dig into this topic and learn it step by step and I am now in the position to get all those substances by myself. I really recommend investing some time and resources into that, knowing how to navigate around these markets is definitely an advantage, especially if you're suicidal. Power to the people .



I agree, it seems complicated at first but I recommend trying to learn it step by step. It's well invested time and resources. There are good tutorials out there that explain the whole thing slowly and make the darknet accessible for newbies. I'm also here to help people out in that regards. It really hurts seeing how all those scammers target suicidal people because they know how desperate we are. We're easy prey in that regards and we need to protect ourselves.

Yeah I think that's something I'm going to look into, always good to know these things if the situation arose that I needed to access the dark net! Knowledge is power as they say.

 

[Stan]

Going to go back to the key principle of this thread as more and more stories are coming through, I will not give details in respect to their confidentiality. But this individual has taken thousands from members. The stories are heartbreaking from using guilt as a tactic to knowingly take the last bit of money from someone who is at the end of their wits. We have a Scam megathread which is a good start, but in reality we know it is pointless as nobody reads here anyway. I suggest a banner or something that is constantly visible that says something like 'Scammers work here - beware!'

 

[MeltingHeart]

Wrong. I barely had a real life network for the past 7 years. It was all online. Doesn't make it any less scummy, but it still was. And one's perspective can change a lot during their final moments in life. I know I don't have a lot of time left, so I am choosing to be compassionate and advocate against truly, irredeemable people.


Again, you're making a load of assumptions here. Nowhere did I ever mention that I mistreated people in real life. How would I even go about scamming people here? I wouldn't succeed. I would be outed very quickly, so I wouldn't even try. And I genuinely care about the people suffering here. I really do.

Look, you could choose to believe me or not - that I have no intention of tricking anyone or to misguide them here. I want everyone to at least be able to spend their final moments in solace, including myself.

I'm not saying at all that you have tried to trick or misguide anyone on here & as you have said u do feel differently about how you treated people as you are in yr last days or something like that. So that's fine. I believe you. I wasnt implying you were doing anything to people on here.

 

[Stan]

Yeah I think that's something I'm going to look into, always good to know these things if the situation arose that I needed to access the dark net! Knowledge is power as they say.

Beware that there is a possible scam regarding people helping others on the DW. Result is the same, you pass over money and never see it again. If you need Bitcoin, go to a licenced financial institute to buy them and get a wallet set up. 'Washing' them afterwards to reduce the trail back to you afterwards is a much simpler task once that is done. Plenty of help on the internet, take the time to research it.

 

[WhiteDespair]

Going to go back to the key principle of this thread as more and more stories are coming through, I will not give details in respect to their confidentiality. But this individual has taken thousands from members. The stories are heartbreaking from using guilt as a tactic to knowingly take the last bit of money from someone who is at the end of their wits. We have a Scam megathread which is a good start, but in reality we know it is pointless as nobody reads here anyway. I suggest a banner or something that is constantly visible that says something like 'Scammers work here - beware!'

Wow. Banner is a good idea. The more reminders you put out there then you may just lower the victim count.

 

[bigoutfit]

Beware of scammers!
Never accept an offer by anyone who makes you an offer by PM.
You will lose your money, and get nothing.
If you do get something, it may not be the real stuff.

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I have put this in my sig as well.

Scamming anybody is wrong, but to people in a desperate situation...smfh.

Also criminals are very smart (well not all I guess) they will bide their time and then pounce.

Stay safe guys.

 

[LonelyLight]

Beware that there is a possible scam regarding people helping others on the DW. Result is the same, you pass over money and never see it again. If you need Bitcoin, go to a licenced financial institute to buy them and get a wallet set up. 'Washing' them afterwards to reduce the trail back to you afterwards is a much simpler task once that is done. Plenty of help on the internet, take the time to research it.

Thanks for the heads up! I will do research and then some before ever going into the deep web, stories about it scare the crap out of me as it is!!

 

[Stan]

Wow. Banner is a good idea. The more reminders you put out there then you may just lower the victim count.

This forum proves every hour, on the hour that rules, FAQ and the first few pages of a megathread are never read.

 

[fightingsioux]

This forum proves every hour, on the hour that rules, FAQ and the first few pages of a megathread are never read.

Can I mix SN with fruit juice?

 

[WhiteDespair]

Can I mix SN with fruit juice?

Yes. It is possible to do that. A good idea, likely not.

 

[Stan]

Can I mix SN with fruit juice

Only if it is apple juice made from an apple grown on the 'Tree of Life' which unfortunately is an antidote to everything.

 

[fightingsioux]

Yes. It is possible to do that. A good idea, likely not.

I was joking, off of Stan's comment about megathreads.

 

[Stan]

Yes. It is possible to do that. A good idea, likely not.

 

[a_strange_day]

I'm too depressed to take it in, it gives me a headache yet I know it's what I'll have to do all so I can get something to kill myself with once

I'm sorry for what happened to you. Could I just ask why you don't just buy directly from the two known and validated sellers in the PPeH instead of trying to buy from members here or from the DN ? The DN is good for Opioids/fake cards and some other things. I buy Opiates there from time to time and alyways received it, it was the good stuff, but N....I wouldn't risk buying N on the DN.

 

[WhiteDespair]

I was joking, off of Stan's comment about megathreads.

I know. Using the literal "can " ; )

 

[Return2Dust]

The Darknet is based off of Tor/onion router encryption technology. Because of this you can create Darknet email addresses and use those for transactions. Cryptos, like BTC, allow you to purchase things without too much of a trail. You're sending from one "number" to another "number" which can be validated and can, potentially, have no trace back to you. Escrow services allow people to make transactions with less risk of theft. The idea is that the escrow service holds the payment until the product and/or service is rendered (or whatever the agreement).

It's a good thing N isn't m method. I don't know WTF a Tor/onion router encryption is or anything else you said. I used my cc to buy meto and worried about getting in trouble for it. I wanted to buy something else (not N) - I won't say b/c I don't want to be targeted with PMs, but I was going to use my cc again. Good thing I didn't.

 

[Mr2005]

I'm sorry for what happened to you. Could I just ask why you don't just buy directly from the two known and validated sellers in the PPeH instead of trying to buy from members here or from the DN ? The DN is good for Opioids/fake cards and some other things. I buy Opiates there from time to time and alyways received it, it was the good stuff, but N....I wouldn't risk buying N on the DN.

I don't have a good reason. I go about things the hard way that are easier for me. After getting scammed the first time I wasn't willing to spend that money again but that was six months ago and the opportunity just presented itself. I now know that whole thread from Rachel about trying to sell it and it turned out to be police was obviously a way to lure people in. I'm done with N. I'm going to have to get acquainted with the darket. I'll be honest I didn't want to have to but if I get that far I'll be getting a gun

 

[Stan]

It's also pointless if members do not report such activities to the mods. If they report these incidents to you, shouldn't they report them to the mods?

i think the disappointing thing is that a member stated in this thread that they did report her 2 weeks ago.

 

[MeltingHeart]

i think the disappointing thing is that a member stated in this thread that they did report her 2 weeks ago.

The very first message I got sent: "You can get N if someone in the U.K. is willing to sell it as they don't want to CTB right now."

I was like a moth to a lightbulb. What a dumb ass. Next time I will report it straight away.

 

[color_me_gone]

Just like me outside of SS for the past 7 years -using and manipulating everyone around me like pawns. As soon as they became useless, I threw them away.

I know a President who operates like that.

I only noticed Rachel when she and another person were extremely disrespectful in @CrushedHopes (CH) first thread. To mock a first time poster is a REALLY shitty thing to do. CH remained respectful to them in spite of their disrespect to him. He politely asked them to go away, and they just wouldn't. The thread was finally locked, maybe request by CH. I wanted to give Rach a verbal tongue lashing, but sadly couldn't, as the thread was locked. Anyone who would be so disrespectful as that, does not surprise me as to being a scammer.

 

[Trainwreck]

Wow, scamming people when they're already in a bad place. I'm glad Blackjack's helper was legit (presumably). I was going to ask for help in learning to navigate the dark web (for a backup method to my originally planned SN), but I suppose it's safer to just research the crap out of it myself. Then I could make a "Darkweb Megathread" that quickly spirals out of control ;-)

 

[CrushedHopes]

I know a President who operates like that.

I only noticed Rachel when she and another person were extremely disrespectful in @CrushedHopes (CH) first thread. To mock a first time poster is a REALLY shitty thing to do. CH remained respectful to them in spite of their disrespect to him. He politely asked them to go away, and they just wouldn't. The thread was finally locked, maybe request by CH. I wanted to give Rach a verbal tongue lashing, but sadly couldn't, as the thread was locked. Anyone who would be so disrespectful as that, does not surprise me as to being a scammer.

Thank you so much for your compassion, CMG. It's people like you (and the majority of the SS) that made me decide to spend my final moments here.

I'll be honest I didn't want to have to but if I get that far I'll be getting a gun

Would you consider SN instead?

 

[fightingsioux]

I know a President who operates like that.

I only noticed Rachel when she and another person were extremely disrespectful in @CrushedHopes (CH) first thread. To mock a first time poster is a REALLY shitty thing to do. CH remained respectful to them in spite of their disrespect to him. He politely asked them to go away, and they just wouldn't. The thread was finally locked, maybe request by CH. I wanted to give Rach a verbal tongue lashing, but sadly couldn't, as the thread was locked. Anyone who would be so disrespectful as that, does not surprise me as to being a scammer.

I'm not defending Rachel for the despicable actions that got her banned, which are the subject of this thread. We're straying pretty far from that, but my two cents on your remarks: she and the other person were not extremely disrespectful to the poster you mentioned. They felt the same way I did (and still do) and I'd guess the same way others felt (and still do).

There are so many people here with serious mental and physical issues. So many people in terrible life situations, situations that are incredibly hard to overcome, that boggle the mind. But that wasn't the situation in this case. Rachel and the other person simply asked, openly and honestly, "So that's your big problem, that's why you want to end your life? You're a young healthy guy who got banned from some internet site and you want to CTB? Huh? WTF?" And I'm paraphrasing, they were actually much more polite. (Oh, and I believe the other person was a 9/11 first responder who found a new job at the age of 40.) You are correct, they were not sympathetic.

Yes, it's impossible and probably wrong to compare the difficulties of others with your own, and find them lacking. But we all do it, it's human nature. This is perhaps unpopular to say, but some stories are just eye-rolling trivial and in many ways an insult to the people here--of any age--with real problems. Especially when these stories come from younger posters, we middle-aged and older folks just can't stop ourselves from responding, "No, no, no. Don't kill yourself because you lost your girlfriend, or your mom is mean, or you don't fit in at school, or you were fired from your first job. Yeah, you're in pain, but things will get better, hang in there, life's a bitch but you've got a long way to go and you can make it."

Basically that's all they were saying, but this poster insisted that his story was an epic tragedy that left him no other choice but death.

 

[trynacbt]

I'm not defending Rachel for the despicable actions that got her banned, which are the subject of this thread. We're straying pretty far from that, but my two cents on your remarks: she and the other person were not extremely disrespectful to the poster you mentioned. They felt the same way I did (and still do) and I'd guess the same way others felt (and still do).

There are so many people here with serious mental and physical issues. So many people in terrible life situations, situations that are incredibly hard to overcome, that boggle the mind. But that wasn't the situation in this case. Rachel and the other person simply asked, openly and honestly, "So that's your big problem, that's why you want to end your life? You're a young healthy guy who got banned from some internet site and you want to CTB? Huh? WTF?" And I'm paraphrasing, they were actually much more polite. (Oh, and I believe the other person was a 9/11 first responder who found a new job at the age of 40.) You are correct, they were not sympathetic.

Yes, it's impossible and probably wrong to compare the difficulties of others with your own, and find them lacking. But we all do it, it's human nature. This is perhaps unpopular to say, but some stories are just eye-rolling trivial and in many ways an insult to the people here--of any age--with real problems. Especially when these stories come from younger posters, we middle-aged and older folks just can't stop ourselves from responding, "No, no, no. Don't kill yourself because you lost your girlfriend, or your mom is mean, or you don't fit in at school, or you were fired from your first job. Yeah, you're in pain, but things will get better, hang in there, life's a bitch but you've got a long way to go and you can make it."

Basically that's all they were saying, but this poster insisted that his story was an epic tragedy that left him no other choice but death.

Not sure how I feel about this, tbh. As a younger member on the forum, I can imagine a lot of people saying similar things to me, but I feel it's impossible to make such a judgment unless you are in that person's very position. Think about it: feeling absolutely hopeless in your 20s could mean living 60+ years of pain. Of course, for many there is in fact a way out, and change to be had, but if a person feels truly certain, I do think it's in their power to make that decision...

 

[LonelyLight]

Not sure how I feel about this, tbh. As a younger member on the forum, I can imagine a lot of people saying similar things to me, but I feel it's impossible to make such a judgment unless you are in that person's very position. Think about it: feeling absolutely hopeless in your 20s could mean living 60+ years of pain. Of course, for many there is in fact a way out, and change to be had, but if a person feels truly certain, I do think it's in their power to make that decision...

Yeah totally agree.
Who are we to say who has a *valid* reason and who doesn't. Yeah someone might think oh if that was me I'd do this and that, but its not you. Offer advice by all means but to belittle the way I seen on that thread? Nope. Can't justify it.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

This is perhaps unpopular to say, but some stories are just eye-rolling trivial and in many ways an insult to the people here--of any age--with real problems.

This is just fucking rude.

 

[color_me_gone]

@fightingsioux
Rachel and the other poster started out respectful, as you quoted, but then started to mock him by saying thing like "I'll get the popcorn". Mocking a person I will call extremely disrespectful. And them wouldn't stop. Perhaps you and they and others do not agree with him and his situation, but to resort to mockery just plain sucks. Perhaps you and I disagree on what is disrespectful.

 

[fightingsioux]

Not sure how I feel about this, tbh. As a younger member on the forum, I can imagine a lot of people saying similar things to me, but I feel it's impossible to make such a judgment unless you are in that person's very position. Think about it: feeling absolutely hopeless in your 20s could mean living 60+ years of pain. Of course, for many there is in fact a way out, and change to be had, but if a person feels truly certain, I do think it's in their power to make that decision...

But that's exactly what I'm saying: feeling hopeless and being in a situation that is hopeless are two different things.
"Let everything happen to you
Beauty and terror
Just keep going
No feeling is final"

― Rainer Maria Rilke