Warning: There might be a high profile scammer active on the board.

[Lethe]

I get excited at looking at pictures of ............... (dammit, keyboard broke)

I'm going to take that as code. Periods? Period blood? Ye gawds, that is vile!

 

[Stan]

pink fluffy unicorns?

Nothing with a 'horn'

I'm going to take that as code. Periods? Period blood? Ye gawds, that is vile!

See that line on the ground? That's called the line of good taste. DO NOT CROSS THAT LINE.

 

[WhiteDespair]

am i being dumb, but whats a false positive?

huh? what dya mean?

False positive: When a negative result is shown as correct. You take a blood test for X. Test shows you have X in your system. You never took Z.

There's also this nifty post I remembered. Took too long to find.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/proton-etc.24659/

 

[Mr2005]

I'm into being humiliated by Rachel74

 

[Soulless_Angel]

Nothing with a 'horn'

See that line on the ground? That's called the line of good taste. DO NOT CROSS THAT LINE.

ahhh but what if there's an earthquake and that line breaks?

 

[RainAndSadness]

You're giving that person too much attention. The thread started yesterday and already has 11 pages. If that product was fake, legit or simply a product of their imagination, it doesn't matter because the rules themselves already prohibit selling anything on this website, for good reasons. If you follow the rules, you'll be on the safe side. Just don't buy any substances from people in this forum, especially if they're illegal. You should never, ever do that ever, in the clear net. You take a huge risk if you do it. What if it's law enforcement, I am sure they'll appreciate all the addresses that you sent them voluntarily, with a transaction so they can even prove you guilty in front of a court. There is a place for these kind of deals, the so-called darknet, preferably on markets that allow you to encrypt your address and pay vendors with cryptocurrencies, with some kind of escrow system - so you take the least amount of risks possible for these kind of purchases. The exception are verified vendors like A or B. Anything else is not safe.

 

[MeltingHeart]

False positive: When a negative result is shown as correct. You take a blood test for X. Test shows you have X in your system. You never took Z.

There's also this nifty post I remembered. Took too long to find.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/proton-etc.24659/

What do you think that was their way of making sure other people deleted it also?

 

[WhiteDespair]

What do you think that was their way of making sure other people deleted it also?

Don't know. Just bringing attention to it.

 

[Stan]

What do you think that was their way of making sure other people deleted it also?

Part of the con was obviously to blend in with us, the real members. Share a story about their MH issues, life in general etc etc. It worked very well. I would not have suspected this.

 

[omoidarui]

there's so many ugly alt accs probably owned by the same person

i've spotted two accounts that i already suspected were alts, who have only recently started posting regularly trying to build up a presence - which leaves me wondering if they're doing so with a similar endgoal in mind to the effort it must've taken to establish the 'Rachel74' account, get that to 1000+ posts and make it look credible before doing this


it sux that we cant oust them on here on the off-chance they're genuine but maybe i can convey my suspicions of certain users with vague anecdotes. "New age Monster palindrome" < thts pretty vague !

 

[Stan]

it sux that we cant oust them on here on the off-chance they're genuine but maybe i can convey my suspicions of certain users with vague anecdotes. "New age Monster palindrome" < thts pretty vague !

If someone offer to to sell you something you should automatically oust them. You don't know if someone more vulnerable is about to part with their cash. Keeping it secret does nobody any good and if you have screenshots of your conversation where they are touting for business then who can argue with it?

 

[omoidarui]

If someone offer to to sell you something you should automatically oust them. You don't know if someone more vulnerable is about to part with their cash. Keeping it secret does nobody any good and if you have screenshots of your conversation where they are touting for business then who can argue with it?

Agreed but this is said in the new scam megathread

- DO NOT post usernames of any user from this site who may be scamming. PM a mod with all the information you have.

when I said oust I meant publicly

 

[Stan]

Agreed but this is said in the new scam megathread

That's true, on second thoughts, without using the name the rest of the scam can be mentioned. Such as 'Beware - being approached to buy N, looks like a scam' just to get it out there at least.

 

[Mr2005]

markets that allow you to encrypt your address and pay vendors with cryptocurrencies, with some kind of escrow system

That's why I've tried buying from members, I have no idea what you just said

 

[MeltingHeart]

That's why I've tried buying from members, I have no idea what you just said

I feel yr pain!

 

[SinisterKid]

Spend a few days away doing other things, come back in earnest [no thats not my name before you ask] and the place has gone to hell. FFS, its not rocket science, if it seems to good to be true, then it probably is. I get desperation, been there, done that, but that does not mean you have to throw all sense out of the window.

Ahh for the good old days when robbers wore striped tops and a mask and the decent folk outnumbered the bastards of this world. Life was so much simpler and a con/scam was a rarity because not many were very good at it. Plus you could go to the pictures, get popcorn and ice cream, get the bus home and a bag of chips for no more than 5p. Yeah, happy days

 

[LonelyLight]

That's why I've tried buying from members, I have no idea what you just said

Agreed, I'm not at all savvy when it comes to that stuff!! I see how its tempting to avoid all that part of it and get it straight forward from someone, well, what you hoped would be

 

[WhiteDespair]

That's why I've tried buying from members, I have no idea what you just said

The Darknet is based off of Tor/onion router encryption technology. Because of this you can create Darknet email addresses and use those for transactions. Cryptos, like BTC, allow you to purchase things without too much of a trail. You're sending from one "number" to another "number" which can be validated and can, potentially, have no trace back to you. Escrow services allow people to make transactions with less risk of theft. The idea is that the escrow service holds the payment until the product and/or service is rendered (or whatever the agreement).

 

[angie]

There's been many scammers on here, even since before I arrived. Some users have been too embarrassed to come forward for fear of looking foolish.

I raised concerns to a mod a good few weeks ago about rachel74

The thing that disappoints me is that in a day or two it will be forgotten and some poor new user gets hit upon and scammed. It's all in pm now so nobody can intervene publicly.

I was gonna say that too with it all in pm some vulnerable people will be suckered in and they cant say much about it in the forums so others cant help them maybe

 

[SinisterKid]

Agreed, I'm not at all savvy when it comes to that stuff!! I see how its tempting to avoid all that part of it and get it straight forward from someone, well, what you hoped would be

Neither was I, but it did not take long to learn. Now I am a member of a marketplace that is kosher, have bought a couple of items using cryptocurrency, which is not difficult, and can navigate my way around a lot of the dross. Honestly, if I can do that at my time of life, anyone can. You just need to be determined and not give up when it seems like you are banging your head against a brick wall. Plus I prefer to depend on myself to get things done because relying on others often leads to disappointment. Yeah, old AND cynical

 

[fightingsioux]

Thank you. I agree that the suspicion is warranted. The line "I sell phenobarbital myself" stands out as it doesn't fit any context. Regarding the "mistakes" the adage "Once is coincidence. Twice is a pattern. Three times is enemy action." applies. I presume that the incorrect email was not just given to one member as well.

It would be interesting to see what the new users posted to attract the attention. I'm not suggesting to violate any confidentiality (kudos to you fine folks for upholding that) or to dox any users. If a correlation between the posts and the scam pitch exists, then knowledge of it can help members avoid the scams. There is likely some criteria used in the scammer's selection process. If members can avoid sending up those signal flares, then they can decrease the chances of being targeted.

Props to everyone involved, named and unnamed.

Thank you @Mud.

Completely OT and besides the point, but the saying you quoted is often attributed to Napoleon, and it actually goes, " Once is chance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action." :-)

 

[ThatIsTheQuestion]

Ahh for the good old days when robbers wore striped tops and a mask and the decent folk outnumbered the bastards of this world.

Sorry. Couldn't help it.

 

[LonelyLight]

Neither was I, but it did not take long to learn. Now I am a member of a marketplace that is kosher, have bought a couple of items using cryptocurrency, which is not difficult, and can navigate my way around a lot of the dross. Honestly, if I can do that at my time of life, anyone can. You just need to be determined and not give up when it seems like you are banging your head against a brick wall. Plus I prefer to depend on myself to get things done because relying on others often leads to disappointment. Yeah, old AND cynical

Well, maybe theres hope for me after all haha! I do agree on only relying on yourself tho, generally never turns out right when others get involved!

 

[Mr2005]

The Darknet is based off of Tor/onion router encryption technology. Because of this you can create Darknet email addresses and use those for transactions. Cryptos, like BTC, allow you to purchase things without too much of a trail. You're sending from one "number" to another "number" which can be validated and can, potentially, have no trace back to you. Escrow services allow people to make transactions with less risk of theft. The idea is that the escrow service holds the payment until the product and/or service is rendered (or whatever the agreement).

I'm too depressed to take it in, it gives me a headache yet I know it's what I'll have to do all so I can get something to kill myself with once I've done something I didn't do years ago that seems simple in comparison. Confused? That's how I feel

 

[omoidarui]

That's true, on second thoughts, without using the name the rest of the scam can be mentioned. Such as 'Beware - being approached to buy N, looks like a scam' just to get it out there at least.

they would never approach me because I'm apparently unpopular with the person behind the alt accounts (hopefully because I've lost the scammer income by now)

My suspicion of certain users is based on their behaviours, such as hard-liking a particular user's posts as if trying to make them look more credible (as the scammer Vaughn did this earlier in the year, using dummy accounts to like his posts and make himself appear reputable). Another trend shared by alt accounts is that some of them only seem to resurface to promote news articles about more raids, as if by incurring more distrust in the climate of N sales they hope to profitise on this by giving people links to "alternative sources".

I agree with whoever said that an automated monthly PM should be sent out to remind people not to fall for this kind of thing.

 

[RainAndSadness]

That's why I've tried buying from members, I have no idea what you just said

Yeah, I feel you. I was in the same position 2 years ago - I wanted to buy fentanyl for myself so I could ctb peacefully but I didn't know how to do it. I simply didn't understand how the darknet works and I was lost. But it was the reason why I started to dig into this topic and learn it step by step and I am now in the position to get all those substances by myself. I really recommend investing some time and resources into that, knowing how to navigate around these markets is definitely an advantage, especially if you're suicidal. Power to the people .

Agreed, I'm not at all savvy when it comes to that stuff!! I see how its tempting to avoid all that part of it and get it straight forward from someone, well, what you hoped would be

I agree, it seems complicated at first but I recommend trying to learn it step by step. It's well invested time and resources. There are good tutorials out there that explain the whole thing slowly and make the darknet accessible for newbies. I'm also here to help people out in that regards. It really hurts seeing how all those scammers target suicidal people because they know how desperate we are. We're easy prey in that regards and we need to protect ourselves.

 

[ThatIsTheQuestion]

Another point here is the danger in playing detective. Good scammers know how not to set off red flags. They also know how to play us against each other. Think of it this way: Accountants go to work in the morning because they're good at accounting. Scammers go to work because they're good at scamming. If we were as good at catching them as they are at their job, it wouldn't be worth their time to try. Never be too surprised by the long con, and always be extra-cautious with anything that involves the words "death" or "permanent disability." I think almost anyone here with any years under their belt could vouch that it's better to start out suspicious than end up that way.

 

[fightingsioux]

Don't know if anyone uses the term anymore, but we always used to call it having a good shit detector. Some people develop a good one, some never do.

Scammers have always existed, call them con-men or charlatans or grifters or hustlers or just plain crooks. They were in ancient Egypt and Greece and Rome and in every society that has ever existed. Just because we now have the internet doesn't mean that the phenomenon is new.

Someone posted earlier--and I have heard this sentiment from many people my whole life--that their rule in life is to never trust anyone.
I strongly disagree and I think that's rather sad. If you let that happen to you then in some way the hustlers have won. I trust people until they give me a reason not to. And I also happen to have a very old but well-built, well-oiled, fully functional shit detector!

 

[MeltingHeart]

The Darknet is based off of Tor/onion router encryption technology. Because of this you can create Darknet email addresses and use those for transactions. Cryptos, like BTC, allow you to purchase things without too much of a trail. You're sending from one "number" to another "number" which can be validated and can, potentially, have no trace back to you. Escrow services allow people to make transactions with less risk of theft. The idea is that the escrow service holds the payment until the product and/or service is rendered (or whatever the agreement).

this is like reading a foreign language, but then I am a huge technophobe, and also my ability to think about new things of which I have no knowledge is hugely lacking since depression etc...urgh...in good days of the past...I could prob, have figured it all out. When I was feeling more savvy.

 

[WhiteDespair]

this is like reading a foreign language, but then I am a huge technophobe, and also my ability to think about new things of which I have no knowledge is hugely lacking since depression etc...urgh...in good say of the past...I could prob, have figured it all out.

Pretty much everything computer related is the same just in a different package.