Help (UNIQUE METHOD) Will this CTB by Oleander leaf work?

[UncleFester]

There's this plant called Oleander that grows near me ALL OVER and I have immediate access to the plant leaf in large quantities.

I have two questions:

1. Does anyone know if this is a reliable method to CTB?
2. Is this a relatively painless method or is it very painful?

Article about Oleander poisoning:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6996654/#:~:text=Leaves%20also%20contain%20oxalates.,can%20be%20fatal%20if%20consumed.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Poison hemlock would be better. Far more effective.

Poison hemlock grows All over North America. I don't know if you're overseas or not. Now is the best time to harvest it but it will work anytime of year, just dig up the roots. I made a post about this a few days ago. No antidote. Just make sure you're by yourself somewhere far away. They can implement supportive measures that may save your life although there is, again, no antidote and even with supportive care most people die. This is only for people who are desperate and don't have the high building or bridge available. Someone out in the flatlands in a rural area maybe. This way of going is not painless, it involves cardiac and respiratory distress and failure. A toxic poisonings are not nearly as peaceable as say taping off the vents to a car and using 15 lb of charcoal. I wouldn't recommend these types of toxic poisonings to people as a first line response. Honestly a measure of absolute insanity and last resort, although poison hemlock will do it.

 

[UncleFester]

Poison hemlock would be better. Far more effective.
Poison hemlock grows All over North America. I don't know if you're overseas or not. Now is the best time to harvest it but it will work anytime of year, just dig up the roots. I made a post about this a few days ago. No antidote. Just make sure you're by yourself somewhere far away. They can't implement supportive measures that may save your life although there is, again, no antidote. Chances are you will die if you use this and you're not taking to a hospital, and even then you'll probably die.
Poison hemlock grows All over North America. I don't know if you're overseas or not. Now is the best time to harvest it but it will work anytime of year, just dig up the roots. I made a post about this a few days ago. No antidote. Just make sure you're by yourself somewhere far away. They can't implement supportive measures that may save your life although there is, again, no antidote. Chances are you will die if you use this and you're not taking to a hospital, and even then you'll probably die.

If I don't have access to Hemlock, will this still be an effective method?

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

I don't know anything about oleander other than yes it is toxic in certain quantities I don't know how much it would take and if it needs a catalyst or whatever. Poison hemlock is better and grows everywhere

 

[4_science]

If I don't have access to Hemlock, will this still be an effective method?

I highly doubt it. You won´t be able to take it in.

 

[Linda]

The word "oleander" is used a bit loosely. I will assume we are talking about the plant whose latin name is Nerium oleander. It has pink flowers.
If is very poisonous, and 100 grams of leaves contain enough toxins to kill you. (You might die from much less. Available information is rather inconsistent.) However the taste is very bitter, and you might not be able to eat that much. Also, you might vomit them up before they had time to kill you.
I have read of a case where someone managed to ctb by infusing the leaves in water and making a kind of tea.
Smoke from burning the plant is also very toxic, and that might be a practical method.
There isn't a lot of information available, but the effects of the plant seem to be moderately unpleasant, but not especially painful.

 

[falling_snow]

it is unpleasant and there has been an unsuccessful attempt with the same plant, vomiting and nausea are effects, but in high doses if digested and entered the blood stream, it is possible to ctb. though it is curable with activated charcoal if presented early enough. i dont think its too painful.

 

[slightoverlooked]

i had a similar idea not long ago but it was another plant. i accidentally ate lily of the valley on a field trip (i thought it was wild garlic). i didnt swallow it tho bc it burned my tongue. i had a mild poisoning from it and regretted not eating more. idk. i feel like i would have thrown up but i kinda wanna try eating some of it even if it ruins my heart.

 

[WaitingAllMyLife]

I have been researching this a lot lately. I ordered some seeds from Germany that just arrived. But I was just thinking how I wish I had a plant so I could just make a salad and mix a ton of them in. There's quite a bit of literature on oleander toxicity. It is HIGHLY toxic, though as plants vary, I'd go over and above known lethal amounts.

 

[dajabe]

A german study says it takes 20 to 40 leaves for lethal dosis. The seeds are supposed to have the most Toxine in it. It effects the heart and the lungs. How long it takes wasnt in there.

 

[whocaresreally]

Speaking of oleander Have you ever read the book white oleander or seen the movie? they are both good

 

[outrider567]

Oleander are pretty pink plants, plenty of them here in Florida---I think I read where some murders were committed with oleander, a toxicologist said they don't normally check for Oleander as a cause of death

 

[UncleFester]

Speaking of oleander Have you ever read the book white oleander or seen the movie? they are both good

Maybe I ought to see it before I die

 

[enduringwinter]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.15393

The tea case. According to his wife, took just over an hour since drinking the tea for him to die, however it's important to note he was elderly and terminally ill. There's a picture of the teapot with the amount of leaves he used.

This pink flower was grown everywhere around my childhood home. Children were warned of its deadly poison and never to approach. I think the main selling point for me is that it slows your heart rate instead of giving you tachycardia. Nausea seems just the same as SN , probably can similarly be curbed a little with meto. The romance of drinking a tea made from these familiar leaves, helps a lot in my case too. I'm just afraid it would not be fatal.

The only account of this method (the only one that did not say the flowers were white or yellow in which case it's not the same plant) I found on here was met with early intervention.

 

[amaterasu :-)]

This plant is very common all over my country, I am considering this as a backup plan. So 40 leaves will be ok? What I have to do, just to heat it in a pot and drink? There is a receipt somewhere? What more do I need to know? Temperature, time etc... I will appreciate.