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sundown12

sundown12

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Oct 5, 2022
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so I have SN that I bought last summer, and even back when I bought it it was all clumpy, is there a way to unclump it? I tried putting it in a blender, but it turns into powder and I'm not sure that's gonna kill me 100%. any ideas?
 
cowboypants

cowboypants

From milkyway
May 7, 2024
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Don't mess around with it until the day you are using it. It reacts to the air and loses potency. Basically any tool should help to break it something wooden preferably
 
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sundown12

sundown12

drama queen
Oct 5, 2022
156
Don't mess around with it until the day you are using it. It reacts to the air and loses potency. Basically any tool should help to break it something wooden preferably
SN is highly stable and I store it in a dry dark place in a container.
 
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quietwoods

quietwoods

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May 21, 2025
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SN is highly stable and I store it in a dry dark place in a container.
Moderately stable. Every time you open it you are exposing it to air and humidity and accelerating the transition to nitrate. There's more than one recorded instance of people's SN on this site becoming mostly useless after a year or two due to degradation.

I don't know why you are concerned with it becoming powder in a blender, that's a physical change not a chemical one. I would be more concerned that the blender is now contaminated with SN and possibly poisoning myself or anyone else who uses that blender.
 
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sundown12

sundown12

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Oct 5, 2022
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Moderately stable. Every time you open it you are exposing it to air and humidity and accelerating the transition to nitrate. There's more than one recorded instance of people's SN on this site becoming mostly useless after a year or two due to degradation.

I don't know why you are concerned with it becoming powder in a blender, that's a physical change not a chemical one. I would be more concerned that the blender is now contaminated with SN and possibly poisoning myself or anyone else who uses that blender.
have you heard of washing with soap? it helps with the poisoning, you know
 
quietwoods

quietwoods

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May 21, 2025
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have you heard of washing with soap? it helps with the poisoning, you know
Wouldn't trust it my friend. Even trace tiny amounts of SN can cause severe poisoning and both hand washing and automatic dishwashers will not always fully clean an item, often leaving residue.

I would not trust any item that has touched SN and has not been washed many times
 
Dejected 55

Dejected 55

Elementalist
May 7, 2025
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Sodium nitrite is used to cure meat... in small amounts it is not toxic or lots of meat-eaters would be dropping like flies. Definitely would wash the container... but if someone says don't trust it even after washing... then... I mean, if you've ever wiped your own ass, apparently washing does no good... we're all doomed if you can't wash stuff anymore and trust it.
 
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May 21, 2025
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Sodium nitrate is used to cure meat... in small amounts it is not toxic or lots of meat-eaters would be dropping like flies. Definitely would wash the container... but if someone says don't trust it even after washing... then... I mean, if you've ever wiped your own ass, apparently washing does no good... we're all doomed if you can't wash stuff anymore and trust it.
In small amounts it is 100% toxic and people have been hospitalized from eating too much meat containing SN.

Please don't post misinformation like this that can endanger someone's life without doing the proper research.

And it is sodium nitrite not nitrate. There is a huge difference between the two
 
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sundown12

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Wouldn't trust it my friend. Even trace tiny amounts of SN can cause severe poisoning and both hand washing and automatic dishwashers will not always fully clean an item, often leaving residue.

I would not trust any item that has touched SN and has not been washed many times
well i used the blender afterwards many times and i'm still alive, so your information is incorrect
 
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quietwoods

quietwoods

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May 21, 2025
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well i used the blender afterwards many times and i'm still alive, so your information is incorrect
Not saying it's going to happen every time, saying it is possible to happen. Just pulled multiple items out my dishwasher an hour ago still with food residue.

It's a risk not a 100% certainty.

You sound a little defensive, that wasn't my intention. Was trying to give a warning about a risk
 
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mangoastronaut

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In small amounts it is 100% toxic and people have been hospitalized from eating too much meat containing SN.

Please don't post misinformation like this that can endanger someone's life without doing the proper research.
I second this! It's like wish mushrooms, you never use the same blender you use on mushrooms that you use on food. You don't want to be getting high when you don't want to or anybody else high.

but if someone says don't trust it even after washing... then... I mean, if you've ever wiped your own ass, apparently washing does no good
Wiping your ass from doo doo is not the same as dealing with chemicals. Not like I know much, but I do know to steer clear from my chemist partner's lab.
 
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Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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In small amounts it is 100% toxic and people have been hospitalized from eating too much meat containing SN.

Please don't post misinformation like this that can endanger someone's life without doing the proper research.

And it is sodium nitrite not nitrate. There is a huge difference between the two
I made a typo, thank you for noticing, and I corrected it in my original post.

Meanwhile, define "small amounts are 100% toxic." That's the king of misinformation right there.

In the USA, considered-safe levels are something like 0.05-0.07 mg per kg of body weight per day. For example, 200 lbs is approximately 90 kgs... so if you are 90 kgs, you could ingest 4.5 to 6.3 mgs of sodium nitrite per day. So if you are talking about "trace amounts" and trying to claim they are toxic, you should understand that "trace amounts" would be considerably lower than the scientifically considered safe amounts.

As I said, lots of meats have sodium nitrite in them. Allowing of course for some people to have an increased sensitivity to the ingredient, as in all things where some people have lower tolerance and some folks are deathly allergic to peanut powder, for instance... but if you don't have a reason to think you have a specific problem with sodium nitrite otherwise, then trace amounts would be fine.

I mean, there are going to be trace amounts on the outside of the container of sodium nitrite from when it was originally packaged, and if you've opened it you were likely exposed to trace amounts as well. So my original accidental (and now corrected) typo aside, you're incorrectly misinforming people of how dangerous sodium nitrite is yourself.

<Edit>. I agree that the blender absolutely should have been washed... and this was done, apparently according to the earlier post.
 
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quietwoods

quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
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I made a typo, thank you for noticing, and I corrected it in my original post.

Meanwhile, define "small amounts are 100% toxic." That's the king of misinformation right there.

In the USA, considered-safe levels are something like 0.05-0.07 mg per kg of body weight per day. For example, 200 lbs is approximately 90 kgs... so if you are 90 kgs, you could ingest 4.5 to 6.3 mgs of sodium nitrite per day. So if you are talking about "trace amounts" and trying to claim they are toxic, you should understand that "trace amounts" would be considerably lower than the scientifically considered safe amounts.

As I said, lots of meats have sodium nitrite in them. Allowing of course for some people to have an increased sensitivity to the ingredient, as in all things where some people have lower tolerance and some folks are deathly allergic to peanut powder, for instance... but if you don't have a reason to think you have a specific problem with sodium nitrite otherwise, then trace amounts would be fine.

I mean, there are going to be trace amounts on the outside of the container of sodium nitrite from when it was originally packaged, and if you've opened it you were likely exposed to trace amounts as well. So my original accidental (and now corrected) typo aside, you're incorrectly misinforming people of how dangerous sodium nitrite is yourself.

<Edit>. I agree that the blender absolutely should have been washed... and this was done, apparently according to the earlier post.
You're kinda straw-manning/misdirecting at this point if we aren't talking about different trace amounts.

I'm not talking about two specks of SN on the outside of a package, but small quantities that are more than the safe trace amounts in food. SN has killed people as low as 500mg, which is roughly 7.3mg per kg of body weight. The link below confirms as low as 1g.

If you have SN, I would recommend measuring out 500mg. That is really not a lot (visually and volume-wise). 500mg is about 1/10 of a teaspoon. And that's just the minimum dose that can kill you.

Severe effects of of poisoning will still occur at much lower doses

So the upper range safe amount is 6.3mg for a 200lb person, which is definitely heavier than average for a human. Let's be generous and say someone accidentally consumes 10x that from a blender that was improperly cleaned and had 63mg stuck in a crevice, which again, is a visibly very miniscule amount of SN.

Are they going to die? Probably not? Are they going to be sickened and may even need medical help? Very likely.

An average sausage contains 0.0152% SN. An average sausage is 150g. That's 0.23mg of SN per sausage, so understandable why someone doesn't get sick from a single sausage but consuming 273x in 63mg? Yeah they are going to be violently sick. Imagine you're going to be feeling some effects even at the safe limit, just not severe ones. That would be the equivalent of eating pounds and pounds of cured meat.

At this point I am hoping that there is some miscommunication and you are not suggesting 63mg or any amount above the daily safe intake of SN is safe.

There's a reason why the safe daily intake is called the safe daily intake

Hence why I called your post misinformation. And dangerous at that. I don't want anyone on this site to be harmed and hope you feel the same.

 
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