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valerie | she/they | puppygirl
Jul 11, 2026
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people talking about SA on this site made me remember my own SA, but.. i don't know? maybe it wasn't an SA?? i remember like, smiling and laughing through it, but i was somewhere close to 8 or 9, and my male(!!!) cousin was somewhere near 12, i think? 13, maybe.

ugh, gosh, i hate it. i don't want to technically be a survivor, obviously, but more so i hate that it was something so small yet it affected me so much.
i still don't really like men, like, as people, because of what he did, but also i'm weirdly attracted to him now in a disgusting way, and i got a masturbation addiction, and i just feel so pathetic i hate it how can one person change so much about me

its too much i just cant do this anymore it was just one time yet it hurt me so much it hurt me so much i literally blocked it and several years of memory out of my mind so i don't even know if it happened

lord help us
 
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i am so sorry that you went through that :(

i just wanted to say that you aren't alone. when i was a kid, i was SA'd by an older kid, and it messed me up in so many ways. at the same time, i feel like i'm overreacting, like it wasn't "bad enough" to traumatize me.

it is very common for childhood SA memories to be like that, where it's blocked out of your memory for a long time and doesn't feel real. it's your brain protecting you. even if the aspects you remember seem "small", it's still very traumatic because it's something that children are not mentally or emotionally equipped to comprehend, let alone consent to.

when i first started remembering what happened to me it was very overwhelming and distressing, i felt terrible 24/7. but over time it's become less difficult to manage. i have been able to partially heal from it. for example i've been able to have relationships, which i would not have thought was possible before.

if you are interested, you might find the r/cocsa (Child On Child SA) or r/adultsurvivors subreddit helpful to process things. there are probably other subreddits too. some people get trauma therapy too

please take it easy on yourself. remembering and processing a traumatic memory is very taxing and upsetting. make sure to get enough sleep, watch a comfort show, eat comfort food. basically, do things that tell your body and mind that you are safe, this is how i cope.
 
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valerie | she/they | puppygirl
Jul 11, 2026
55
i am so sorry that you went through that :(

i just wanted to say that you aren't alone. when i was a kid, i was SA'd by an older kid, and it messed me up in so many ways. at the same time, i feel like i'm overreacting, like it wasn't "bad enough" to traumatize me.

it is very common for childhood SA memories to be like that, where it's blocked out of your memory for a long time and doesn't feel real. it's your brain protecting you. even if the aspects you remember seem "small", it's still very traumatic because it's something that children are not mentally or emotionally equipped to comprehend, let alone consent to.

when i first started remembering what happened to me it was very overwhelming and distressing, i felt terrible 24/7. but over time it's become less difficult to manage. i have been able to partially heal from it. for example i've been able to have relationships, which i would not have thought was possible before.

if you are interested, you might find the r/cocsa (Child On Child SA) or r/adultsurvivors subreddit helpful to process things. there are probably other subreddits too. some people get trauma therapy too

please take it easy on yourself. remembering and processing a traumatic memory is very taxing and upsetting. make sure to get enough sleep, watch a comfort show, eat comfort food. basically, do things that tell your body and mind that you are safe, this is how i cope.
hey thanks so much

that's also actually another thing that makes it feel small to me, because i never had to "process" it, or anything like that, or at least, i never felt that way. i just sort of, learned what SA was, remembered what happened, and thought it was SA. i'm not interested in trauma therapy at the moment because if i went, i'd be implicitly telling my family i was traumatized somehow, and i don't want that

i also feel bad because it just seems like everybody else was affected romantically or emotionally but it never really? did that for me? it was just, solely sexual, and i hate that because now i just feel even more ostracized. i just feel like something's wrong with me for being so sexual all the time...

i also feel like the exact details of it make me feel lesser about it because he never penetrated me and he only groped my genitals
 
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Nov 30, 2024
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just because he never penetrated, does not mean your experience is not traumatizing. Being groped in the genitals at 9 years old, is absolutely rape. Hell, even if it "seemed" like you "consented", it is still rape. A 9 year old cannot consent—a 9 year old is only subjected to sexual activity when sexually abused.

I understand you aren't interested in trauma therapy at the moment 🫂. here are some more direct links that you can use to learn more, without need for appointment~

https://rainn.org/help-and-healing/hotline/
https://rainn.org/help-and-healing/hotline/youth-helproom/
https://centers.rainn.org/
https://rainn.org/get-the-facts-about-sexual-assault-rape/
RAINN (rape, abuse, and incest national network) has a phoneline that you can use (anonymously) to call and seek comfort, guidance, and support with the pain of sexual abuse you experience ❤️🫂. the average session is about 30–60 minutes; so you totally have time to speak about your experience without needing to compress it; so it can help decompress from all this pressure of not having anyone to speak about it with, too 🫂🫂.

hope this helps <3. i'm sorry you were raped. it's not your fault that you were affected in the way you were. i am wishing you the most healing; even if it may take time, may there be soothing and change for the traumas that stab you now 🫂🫂. may the links be helpful, as well 🫂.
 
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valerie | she/they | puppygirl
Jul 11, 2026
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just because he never penetrated, does not mean your experience is not traumatizing. Being groped in the genitals at 9 years old, is absolutely rape. Hell, even if it "seemed" like you "consented", it is still rape. A 9 year old cannot consent—a 9 year old is only subjected to sexual activity when sexually abused.

I understand you aren't interested in trauma therapy at the moment 🫂. here are some more direct links that you can use to learn more, without need for appointment~

https://rainn.org/help-and-healing/hotline/
https://rainn.org/help-and-healing/hotline/youth-helproom/
https://centers.rainn.org/
https://rainn.org/get-the-facts-about-sexual-assault-rape/
RAINN (rape, abuse, and incest national network) has a phoneline that you can use (anonymously) to call and seek comfort, guidance, and support with the pain of sexual abuse you experience ❤️🫂. the average session is about 30–60 minutes; so you totally have time to speak about your experience without needing to compress it; so it can help decompress from all this pressure of not having anyone to speak about it with, too 🫂🫂.

hope this helps <3. i'm sorry you were raped. it's not your fault that you were affected in the way you were. i am wishing you the most healing; even if it may take time, may there be soothing and change for the traumas that stab you now 🫂🫂. may the links be helpful, as well 🫂.
thanks for your kind words this is literally the first time i've told anyone..



i'm still really anxious about talking to people in stuff like chat rooms lol. maybe at some point, thanks for the suggestions. i also unfortunately don't have a phone to make calls.

the thing that really bugs me,, is that i didn't feel pain? i hate it, i never felt pain about any of it, most of the resources about SA or rape i've seen have frequently made the implicit assumption that the person reading it is suffering or in pain somehow after being raped, and i'm.. not..

rape is also such a scary word and i don't really like it, not just being against rape in general (obviously), but, it feels wrong to use the word for myself. it feels like stolen valor, even though there's no valor to steal..
 
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thanks for your kind words this is literally the first time i've told anyone..

i'm still really anxious about talking to people in stuff like chat rooms lol. maybe at some point, thanks for the suggestions. i also unfortunately don't have a phone to make calls.

the thing that really bugs me,, is that i didn't feel pain? i hate it, i never felt pain about any of it, most of the resources about SA or rape i've seen have frequently made the implicit assumption that the person reading it is suffering or in pain somehow after being raped, and i'm.. not..

rape is also such a scary word and i don't really like it, not just being against rape in general (obviously), but, it feels wrong to use the word for myself. it feels like stolen valor, even though there's no valor to steal..
I think it's because the term "rape" can seem to have an implication of "fast, brutal, immediate"—which may not accurately depict all sexual abuse experiences. Not all rapes are the stereotypical connotations of "immediate, explicit, unambiguous violence".

There are rapes that may not even use physical force, but instead threats; be it social, financial, legal, et cetera.

You have a right over this word, "rape". Your experience does not have to be excluded or conform to this word: The word is what should conform to your experience.

Of course, there are terms other than rape as well <3. Sexual abuse is a fair general term; implies your body was used in a way you didn't like. This does not specify the nature of the action: so it may be more inclusive to different experiences. (Especially ones that do not fit the common image that "rape" may conjure.)

Your body was subjected, against your will, in a manner you did not want, by someone you did not wish to do any of those things. This is sexual abuse because the violation is expressly sexual (abuse of genitalia by another person).


The intent to exploit or violate a child is what defines the abuse.

Who Are the Perpetrators of Child Sexual Abuse?


Most often, child sexual abuse is committed by someone the child knows and trusts.

Most perpetrators of child sexual abuse are acquaintances (59%) or family members (34%). Only 7% are strangers.

See More Facts & Statistics

Abusers can be:
  • Parents or stepparents
  • Siblings or cousins
  • Family friends or neighbors
  • Teachers, coaches, or religious leaders
  • Babysitters or other caregivers
  • Older peers or romantic partners
Abusers may use manipulation, threats, or their position of power to coerce a child into silence. They may tell the child the abuse is "normal" or say no one will believe them if they speak up. Child sexual abuse is more than a physical violation—it's a betrayal of trust.

—RAINN

the thing that really bugs me,, is that i didn't feel pain? i hate it, i never felt pain about any of it, most of the resources about SA or rape i've seen have frequently made the implicit assumption that the person reading it is suffering or in pain somehow after being raped, and i'm.. not..
Pain is felt in many different ways 🫂.

its too much i just cant do this anymore it was just one time yet it hurt me so much it hurt me so much i literally blocked it and several years of memory out of my mind so i don't even know if it happened
This is one way a human brain responds to an immensely painful event 🫂🫂.

Here is my guess, that should be taken with serious salt (for you know your own experience in a way I do not ❤️). My guess: In the source of the traumatic moment, your brain and emotional expression were—out of fear—trying to suppress all outward displays of negative emotion; potentially to avoid showing pain to the sexual abuser. This could happen because you felt that "if I show negative emotion to this sexual abuser, then it will put me in more danger than I am in right now".



The dissonance between bodily response and emotional feeling is something sexual abuse experiencers have noted: the body may send signals of sexual response, whereas the brain, mind, and emotions, feel violated.

The smiling and laughing are NOT proof of "joy" or absence of pain at all. One example; a depressed person may joke and laugh, even if they don't feel joyful in that moment at all. Internal experience and emotion are different affairs.



You don't have to be a "survivor" ❤️. The truth is that there CAN be healing. So much of the modern trauma paradigm sends this message of "your healing will never ever be enough and you're bound forever; you'll never be thriving, only surviving", but that is a narrative, not a prophecy of how EVERY human brain operates.

Identifying as a survivor is a double edged sword. It can galvanize someone to speak up about their experience. But it can also have the downside of making someone feel "if my life wasn't at risk, then was it really rape at all", due to the "danger" connotations "survivor" may carry.

Identity is catchy. It can also stick. It's my own opinion that the purpose of identifying as "survivor", is to help someone find other people who have also experienced sexual abuse, to help find support, community, and any healing and recognition that comes from engaging with humans who know what you have gone through.

Identity labels are not prerequisites for rendering your sexual abuse experience as "real". All labels, words, terms (rape, survivor, etc) should be used not as filters to exclude experiences, but channels for people's own experiences to flow through. Words should make space for experiences. Experiences should not be excluded, merely because they differ from whatever common notion a word brings up.



There are such kinds of pain you are feeling right now 🫂.

The pain of not having anyone to speak to about it. The pain of struggling to suppress the memory. The pain of the fear of it resurfacing. The pain of being distanced from trauma therapy. The pain of being distanced from support. The pain of the stigmas cruelly projected onto trauma.

These are all forms of pain: they are real, for they exist as real physical electrical signals in your brain. Injury to limbs sends signals through your neurons into your brain; and your brain in response renders a pain signal, and it renders it in the arm. People with amputates limbs are able to sometimes feel pain in the amputated limb, even though it's not there. (googling the term for this right now.) This is known as "phantom pain": and it proves pain is inside the BRAIN: but the brain is an organ too; and so pain in the brain is JUST as real as pain in the arms, heart, shoulders, and anywhere.

Here is a quote to exemplify the reality of all kinds of pain: even the ones that are less easily seen. I extend this to pains that may struggle to note as pain, but can still strain and hurt oneself in different ways ♥.

The authoritative term psychotic depression makes Kate Gompert feel especially lonely. Specifically the psychotic part. Think of it this way. Two people are screaming in pain. One of them is being tortured with electric current. The other is not. The screamer who's being tortured with electric current is not psychotic: her screams are circumstantially appropriate. The screaming person who's not being tortured, however, is psychotic, since the outside parties making the diagnoses can see no electrodes or measurable amperage. One of the least pleasant things about being psychotically depressed on a ward full of psychotically depressed patients is coming to see that none of them is really psychotic, that their screams are entirely appropriate to certain circumstances part of whose special charm is that they are undetectable by any outside party. Thus the loneliness: it's a closed circuit: the current is both applied and received from within.

Infinite Jest. David Foster Wallace.

If a person who was explicitly abused in the genitals at 9 years old by a 13 year old male cousin, is barred from using the term "rape", or any like terms such as "sexual abuse, sexual assault, et cetera" then those words severely lack currency for including experiences of sexual abuse.

You don't have to identify as "survivor, victim", et cetera; your pain is real regardless of what words you prefer. Language is flexible ♥. Here is one such alternative description; one out of ENDLESS ways to understand your experience <3. "Person who at one momentary point in their life was sexually abused; someone who was negatively affected by this traumatic event, but whose body, mind, and life, are not ultimately defined by it."

Lemme know if there is absolutely anything you want to ask, and I can write you a reply :). Wishing you the best and most embracing of healing, support, and growth, amidst all pain and all confusion, and may there be much shade for you in the space ahead 🫂🫂<3❤️.
 
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valerie | she/they | puppygirl
Jul 11, 2026
55
I think it's because the term "rape" can seem to have an implication of "fast, brutal, immediate"—which may not accurately depict all sexual abuse experiences. Not all rapes are the stereotypical connotations of "immediate, explicit, unambiguous violence".

There are rapes that may not even use physical force, but instead threats; be it social, financial, legal, et cetera.

You have a right over this word, "rape". Your experience does not have to be excluded or conform to this word: The word is what should conform to your experience.

Of course, there are terms other than rape as well <3. Sexual abuse is a fair general term; implies your body was used in a way you didn't like. This does not specify the nature of the action: so it may be more inclusive to different experiences. (Especially ones that do not fit the common image that "rape" may conjure.)

Your body was subjected, against your will, in a manner you did not want, by someone you did not wish to do any of those things. This is sexual abuse because the violation is expressly sexual (abuse of genitalia by another person).





Pain is felt in many different ways 🫂.


This is one way a human brain responds to an immensely painful event 🫂🫂.

Here is my guess, that should be taken with serious salt (for you know your own experience in a way I do not ❤️). My guess: In the source of the traumatic moment, your brain and emotional expression were—out of fear—trying to suppress all outward displays of negative emotion; potentially to avoid showing pain to the sexual abuser. This could happen because you felt that "if I show negative emotion to this sexual abuser, then it will put me in more danger than I am in right now".



The dissonance between bodily response and emotional feeling is something sexual abuse experiencers have noted: the body may send signals of sexual response, whereas the brain, mind, and emotions, feel violated.

The smiling and laughing are NOT proof of "joy" or absence of pain at all. One example; a depressed person may joke and laugh, even if they don't feel joyful in that moment at all. Internal experience and emotion are different affairs.



You don't have to be a "survivor" ❤️. The truth is that there CAN be healing. So much of the modern trauma paradigm sends this message of "your healing will never ever be enough and you're bound forever; you'll never be thriving, only surviving", but that is a narrative, not a prophecy of how EVERY human brain operates.

Identifying as a survivor is a double edged sword. It can galvanize someone to speak up about their experience. But it can also have the downside of making someone feel "if my life wasn't at risk, then was it really rape at all", due to the "danger" connotations "survivor" may carry.

Identity is catchy. It can also stick. It's my own opinion that the purpose of identifying as "survivor", is to help someone find other people who have also experienced sexual abuse, to help find support, community, and any healing and recognition that comes from engaging with humans who know what you have gone through.

Identity labels are not prerequisites for rendering your sexual abuse experience as "real". All labels, words, terms (rape, survivor, etc) should be used not as filters to exclude experiences, but channels for people's own experiences to flow through. Words should make space for experiences. Experiences should not be excluded, merely because they differ from whatever common notion a word brings up.



There are such kinds of pain you are feeling right now 🫂.

The pain of not having anyone to speak to about it. The pain of struggling to suppress the memory. The pain of the fear of it resurfacing. The pain of being distanced from trauma therapy. The pain of being distanced from support. The pain of the stigmas cruelly projected onto trauma.

These are all forms of pain: they are real, for they exist as real physical electrical signals in your brain. Injury to limbs sends signals through your neurons into your brain; and your brain in response renders a pain signal, and it renders it in the arm. People with amputates limbs are able to sometimes feel pain in the amputated limb, even though it's not there. (googling the term for this right now.) This is known as "phantom pain": and it proves pain is inside the BRAIN: but the brain is an organ too; and so pain in the brain is JUST as real as pain in the arms, heart, shoulders, and anywhere.

Here is a quote to exemplify the reality of all kinds of pain: even the ones that are less easily seen. I extend this to pains that may struggle to note as pain, but can still strain and hurt oneself in different ways ♥.



If a person who was explicitly abused in the genitals at 9 years old by a 13 year old male cousin, is barred from using the term "rape", or any like terms such as "sexual abuse, sexual assault, et cetera" then those words severely lack currency for including experiences of sexual abuse.

You don't have to identify as "survivor, victim", et cetera; your pain is real regardless of what words you prefer. Language is flexible ♥. Here is one such alternative description; one out of ENDLESS ways to understand your experience <3. "Person who at one momentary point in their life was sexually abused; someone who was negatively affected by this traumatic event, but whose body, mind, and life, are not ultimately defined by it."

Lemme know if there is absolutely anything you want to ask, and I can write you a reply :). Wishing you the best and most embracing of healing, support, and growth, amidst all pain and all confusion, and may there be much shade for you in the space ahead 🫂🫂<3❤️.
oh yeah first thanks for all you've written but i think there are like four or five things i need to clarify

1. when i meant my brain blocked it and several years out, i never intended to make a causal link between that and my bad memory. i don't know if it was because of it.

2. when i used the term pain, i also included emotional pain, which maybe i should have specified but it was clear from your message you were also using the term to include emotional pain

3. as for your guess.. unfortunately, it's only a little less authoritative than mine right now. what i've told you is more or less all i know or remember. i've basically been masking my pain 24/7 since i was.. 7? 8? whenever i started schooling, so i have no idea whether or not it was due to me masking pain because, well, i never "started" or "stopped" doing that

4. you're probably right about the smiling and laughing part. i was always pretty ticklish.

5. i think i equated rape with penetration, which admittedly is a patriarchal thing (i.e "women can't rape, men can't get raped"), so i'll try not to next time.

6. but even despite all of this i've never derived any actual pain from my experience. i think maybe you could make some etiological claims but i think they would be too conjectural

thanks for everything again. obviously talking about this is making me pretty sick to the core, even if it didn't hurt me or whatever, so if there is anything else you say i'm probably not replying to it for a while..
 
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sry if i made it feel like i was "correcting" u at all; i hope mesaages were able to give even a little bit of comfort to u 🫂🫂🫂❤️
 
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