If Trump & his goons spent 12 years torturing me (and are still going to throw me in jail), I'd hate to think what they're going to do to others. No victims in anything I did. Scary what will happen to people who actually hurt other people.
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His VP fucking WROTE part of it
Rights and a functional economy
You mean the republican states that siphon money from blue states to fund your SOCIALIST assistance programs?/j
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Freddie Mac house price index change 1990-2023 | Statista
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The country being richer doesn't mean anything if the people living there don't have anything. In fact, it just shows more inequality.
And before you want to shield them blaming all on COVID, here are the inflation rates in the EU and here the value of an euro in the same timeframe. This results, while high, are disproportionate compared to the US handling of it.
The abortion panorama doesn't look better now. While one can blame Reps for the overturn the government failed to do anything about it, Paradoxically, there were more abortions after Dobbs decision than ever before (also here and here), so this could go both ways.
Don't even get me started about his handling of external conflicts... Afghanistan ruined because he did nothing about the troop withdrawal and the rest of conflicts. How many people outside the US have lost their rights related in some way to the US in his period?
Biden is a fucking atrocity of a president. Defending him is literally starting from a conclusion, out of emotion, because there's little to no data to actually show in his favor.
And Trump disagrees. But if a VP sharing a part equals to him having the power for ethnic and sexual cleansing, then you have to explain why Kamala didn't do shit while she was VP UNDER DEMOCRAT GOVERNMENT.
Presidents have more power of choice over their party than you're willing to admit...
The way media fear-mongers Trump is insane.
Though, I understand both sides. Bless!
Though, I understand both sides. Bless!
EvisceratedJester
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Oh, the ignorance. Have you bothered looking into his cabinet picks yet? Maybe this will get it through your head as to why people are concerned.
Do you even know what socialism is? A "liberal socialist" isn't a fucking thing. Socialists are further left of the political spectrum. Liberals are generally capitalists. Biden was never moderate to far left.
What ignorance? Yes, I have. I said I understand both sides, so I'm not sure what your problem is. It all comes down to what your beliefs are.
It's important to keep in mind cognitive dissonance and propaganda plays a big role into politics.
EvisceratedJester
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Bothsidism is literal bullshit. One party is planning on screwing over marginalized groups. They both suck, but they aren't equal in how bad they are. But sure, the everyone is just fear-mongering. Who cares about the some guy nominating a dog killer and a guy who allegedly had sex with a high schooler to be part of his cabinet? Both sides are equally bad./s
Downdraft
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And letting one to define your entire self is even worse.
Yeah, one planned it. But the other kinda did without planning... Like at this point I think people prefer to be lied.
Have you stopped to think for a moment people don't mean they do the exact same things, but they have different actions (or lack of) with similar seriousness? Politics aren't anywhere as simple as vote and thinks automagically slowly get solved by themselves because every action in one direction of other always had visible consequences. Problems could, in fact, keep snowballing when people are hell-bent that the most useless people at executing ideas are the best option available. But I guess they don't matter when you can blame the other party for literally everything.
Even if it was true, this very idea breeds groupthink.
Your view is simplistic and useless imo.
Sure. You can definitely argue who is who.
Personally, I like to go by critical thinking and media literacy, as well as actual evidence (Ex: Statistics) and support that way.
As for more moral, ethical, human right issues, societal oppression, etc. More depends on personal beliefs. Let's not bash others for being different, and understand each-others issues and way of thinking. I think we should agree to disagree, and show support for whatever/whoever as much as we can. What you interpret as wrong, may be somebody's else's right, and a lot of factors including rational or not, goes into that. It's more ignorant for you to bash others.
Cress
Arcanist
- Oct 15, 2023
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Truthfully if you're familiar with what's going on in the war currently The past couple weeks Putin has been rushing as much territory as possible hypothetically thinking trump will give any territory he's already claimed to Putin and Russia In an effort just to end the war as quickly as possible. It just comes down to if people think that's acceptable or not. Personally I want Ukraine to get 100% of their territory back And I hope trump doesn't go the route of letting Putin have even a single mile of territory in Ukraine
Raindancer
Specialist
- Nov 4, 2023
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Stop watching MSM, this was proven false and the man who was trying to go after Gaetz is actually currently in prison for it. This is why Trump won the majority vote. The people in this country are sick of lies and politicians. I was a democrat and absolutely hated Trump until I did my own research. When I began to see the lies the media and politicians were telling and how they used the justice department to go after American citizens. Don't even get me started on the corruption they used to go after Trump. Trump is a threat to globalism, the elites,neocons and all the systems they have set up to capitalize on. There is a reason they have gone after him like they have which resulted in 2 assassination attempts. He isn't perfect, but we couldn't take 4 more years of what we just had. Look honestly at both sides. Find the truth and not what the MSM and people with TDS say.
ForeverLonely82
Student
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Unpopular Opinion. I voted for and pleased that the orange man won. I been struggling under Biden/Harris for 4 years and dreaded 4 more to keep my head above water. I am hoping he puts some good policies into place. the liberal meltdowns made me run out of popcorn because it's entertaining watching people loosing their minds from TDS and brainwashed MSM BS. I used to like Democrats, but after Clinton I noticed a shift, they are not who they used to be, a lot of what I've seen is close to communism and if I wanted that I would move to Russia or China, but I don't. I mean I look at RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard who were once Democrats and left the party due to them putting America Last. You can hate me for supporting him and voting all red. I was tired of blues bullshit and you can call me a cult follower but I rather be in his cult than the "Joy" and "Rainbow" cult which is overrated and given too much attention and honestly more fucked up than I, which is hard to do. That's my feelings on the matter, thanks for reading.
EvisceratedJester
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Societal oppression isn't something that "depends on personal beliefs". Wtf are you ever talking about? For somebody who boasts about preferring "critical thinking" and "actual evidence", you are really doing a poor job of showing this. Also, no. I will bash people who decided to vote for a felon and people like you who decide to partake in bothsidism because your ego matters more than the rights and well-being of others.
I didn't get that from "MSM". Also, when has Trump ever been truthful? Doing your own research doesn't mean shit, especially when most people have poor research skills. How many times do think I've heard that same shit being said by anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, those who are anti-climate change, etc. You aren't making yourself look good here.
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I said what I said and will post what I want. Take your own advice and don't read it. Sorry if it offends you. Sounds like you have alot of problems in your life and they were there long before Trump. Will remain long after Trump. Try to better your own situation and not rely on Government. It's bigger than any one person anyways. Instead of taking responsibility for your own life it's easier to blame someone else for it falling apart.
let.me.let.go87
Experienced
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Get off my post nobody asked for your anger at my problems. I don't know you and believe me the way you talk to total strangers, I would never want to. Good bye asshole say what you want elsewhere where someone wants to hear it coz it ain't here
And you don't even know me to say this shit about me. Saying I'm not taking responsibility for my own life. Name one thing you actually know about me. Oh wait… that's right about this completely anonymous site you don't even know my name much less any actual things about me that I haven't disclosed. And nothing about me that I haven't wanted any of y'all to know. Nothing about my past. You don't know the fact that I'm currently in college trying to get off of government assistance or the fact that I'm physically disabled as well but never wanted to be on this shit because it means government has control over how much you can save and if you can have assets and all that good shit. You have no idea about any of it do you, pal? Step down off your pedestal and shut your cake cake hole for a minute. Imagine for a second that someone on here maybe is miserable because they grew up being physically and sexually abused and unloved and at almost forty have had enough. But are still fighting to stay alive despite the mental health system making them feel stupid and crazy. Yet people like you making them wanna turn it outward instead of inward sometimes. But I'd rather not be that person because I'm never gonna be like my parents I'd rather die then become them. So just fuck off pal. Seriously. I don't need this. From a stranger much less you don't fucking know me
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Raindancer
Specialist
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The last thing I give a crap about is "looking good". Trump won because he is who he is. He doesn't put on act. Everybody lies, and with the last humdinger from the dems that Biden wasn't mentally compromised, I don't think there is any room to talk. And last count, the majority of the so called conspiracy theories over time have been proven to be correct. The funny thing with truth, is that it always comes to light.
Kai_Txn
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I understand your worries personally. That night I stayed up with my gf watching the votes. I cried when i saw the terror on her face. She was more than heartbroken and so was I. Things like this happen all the time though. However, I feel like no matter how bad the majority gets, there will always be someone somewhere in the minority that is trying their best to fight back and help those in need.
4 years sounds like forever but trust me that once the 4 years is over, it will be over. He will have done his full 8 years and will never be able to run for presidency again. Of course, the government has proven time and time again that they can be grimy and never have the publics actual best interest at heart but there will hopefully be another president after him that can help fix the problems he has caused and will cause in the future.
But always remember that in the political world at least, there is still hope here. Nothing he wants to enforce can be active until January and he can be impeached.
As for wars and such, I hope it is dealt with as soon as possible and I feel guilt and shame every day looking at the wars that are happening right now and have happened due to the US. I am and always will be disgusted with every terrible thing these people have done.
Please ignore fanatics like Raindancer.
He abuse your time.
He abuse your patience.
All your effors is in vain to a man who thinks "everybody lies".
You should ignore EVERY SINGLE ONE of these trolls.
I call these people "forum bulldozers" because they just mow over everybodys sandcastle, with their i gnorant statements.
He abuse your time.
He abuse your patience.
All your effors is in vain to a man who thinks "everybody lies".
You should ignore EVERY SINGLE ONE of these trolls.
I call these people "forum bulldozers" because they just mow over everybodys sandcastle, with their i gnorant statements.
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Raindancer
Specialist
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And this is the exact rhetoric that has gotten us in the mess we are in. Calling each other fanatics, fascists, racists etc. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Maybe if we spent more time listening to each other and taking the time to ferret out the truth, instead of just throwing accusations around. I've spent the last 4 years bullied into staying quiet because I happen to have a different opinion and I am not alone. And you know what's really funny is that if the left hadn't done that to so many people, Kamala would have probably won. But instead of looking at the truth and making an honest effort to learn from it, the name calling continues. The difference is we are not going to be bullied into silence anymore.
You think namecalling on the internet has gotten america into a big mess?
Downdraft
I've felt better ngl
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It definitely didn't help. I get that there's a big ideological barrier and it's normal to feel angered when you see something so different, but this will only create even more division than there's now. I don't have much hopes of people working on common ground to solve anything at any point tbh, and this only makes it even more rare to see.
How you gonne learn from anybody if you think evreyone is lying?
You dont like namecalling??
Did the bluehaired cuck snowflake woke transtrending libtard bully you into silence? That thats the elite. Then you cant be much of a person yourself
You dont like namecalling??
Did the bluehaired cuck snowflake woke transtrending libtard bully you into silence? That thats the elite. Then you cant be much of a person yourself
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Downdraft
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I mean if you ask a question about how someone's perception, at least don't belittle them...
As much as I hate to comment on a political thread. And I must say ALL politicians suck. As if somehow "the other party is better"....it's not. Trump stated numerous times that project 2025 isn't his agenda. Plain and simple. It is propaganda to associate it with him. Others are trying to scare you by claiming he is associated with it when he isn't. Never believe a story until you've thoroughly looked into both sides. I mean truly trying to understand both sides perspective.
Trump Disavows Project 2025: Calls Some Of Conservative Group’s Ideas ‘Absolutely Ridiculous And Abysmal’
Trump claimed in a Truth Social post Friday he knows “nothing about” a controversial initiative, dubbed Project 2025, that has been viewed as a wish list for a hypothetical second term.
www.forbes.com
This is why we can't have nice things. Or more accurately, a nice government. Intentionally bashing or insulting others will only create MORE division and polarization. It will only motivate your political opponents to grow even stronger against you. It is a vicious cycle back and forth.
One thing I fear people like yourself lack to understand is that regardless of who you are for or against.....those who vote in disagreeance with you want whats best for everyone. That's how people on the right and the left feel when they vote. That is what can be respected about those you despise. Without a desire to understand those you disagree with. And just as important without a desire to RESPECT those you disagree with as you wish to be respected. We will continue to grow worse and more polarized.
Every child knows the golden rule. But too many adults act as if theyve never heard of it when they discuss politics.
Until you re-learn the golden rule. You're hurting yourself (mentally) far worse with your insults than those who you direct your insults at.
It's sad, very sad that one who is asking that more respect be shown and less personal insulting is somehow called a "fanatic". A troll, a forum bulldozer. Raindancer hasn't shown any attempt to shut anyone up, or not express their views. He is simply expressing his own views and is being attacked for it. As if it kills you to hear views that oppose yours? As if no one is allowed to express something you disagree with? Your description of him sounds more like a description of yourself. I actually feel kinda bad posting as if I'm stooping to your level. But I to have a right to express myself and I would like you to know that you are a bully. Watching you pathetically bully others only encourages me to disagree with you.
We are human. Just as human as yourself. We are sick of bullies. The more you bully the more you encourage us to stop taking it. The more you encourage us to do something, to vote. If you want to be understood you must show respect. Plain and simple.
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Again, his VP fucking WROTE part of it, and all the people that paid for him to be in office support it
Raindancer
Specialist
- Nov 4, 2023
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I rest my case.
As much as I hate to comment on a political thread. And I must say ALL politicians suck. As if somehow "the other party is better"....it's not. Trump stated numerous times that project 2025 isn't his agenda. Plain and simple. It is propaganda to associate it with him. Others are trying to scare you by claiming he is associated with it when he isn't. Never believe a story until you've thoroughly looked into both sides. I mean truly trying to understand both sides perspective.
Trump Disavows Project 2025: Calls Some Of Conservative Group’s Ideas ‘Absolutely Ridiculous And Abysmal’
Trump claimed in a Truth Social post Friday he knows “nothing about” a controversial initiative, dubbed Project 2025, that has been viewed as a wish list for a hypothetical second term.
This is why we can't have nice things. Or more accurately, a nice government. Intentionally bashing or insulting others will only create MORE division and polarization. It will only motivate your political opponents to grow even stronger against you. It is a vicious cycle back and forth.
One thing I fear people like yourself lack to understand is that regardless of who you are for or against.....those who vote in disagreeance with you want whats best for everyone. That's how people on the right and the left feel when they vote. That is what can be respected about those you despise. Without a desire to understand those you disagree with. And just as important without a desire to RESPECT those you disagree with as you wish to be respected. We will continue to grow worse and more polarized.
Every child knows the golden rule. But too many adults act as if theyve never heard of it when they discuss politics.
Until you re-learn the golden rule. You're hurting yourself (mentally) far worse with your insults than those who you direct your insults at.
It's sad, very sad that one who is asking that more respect be shown and less personal insulting is somehow called a "fanatic". A troll, a forum bulldozer. Raindancer hasn't shown any attempt to shut anyone up, or not express their views. He is simply expressing his own views and is being attacked for it. As if it kills you to hear views that oppose yours? As if no one is allowed to express something you disagree with? Your description of him sounds more like a description of yourself. I actually feel kinda bad posting as if I'm stooping to your level. But I to have a right to express myself and I would like you to know that you are a bully. Watching you pathetically bully others only encourages me to disagree with you.
We are human. Just as human as yourself. We are sick of bullies. The more you bully the more you encourage us to stop taking it. The more you encourage us to do something, to vote. If you want to be understood you must show respect. Plain and simple.
Thank you
I recently talked to someone that said Trump being president will be the end of USA and she truly believes he's going to be the new Hitler. I asked her how she kept it together during his last presidency and she said "no, he was just elected for president this year", she legit had no idea that he was already her president for four years.
100% of the people scared of Trump being president literally have zero grasp of politics and are just being scared because they were convinced by the media that their world is coming to an end.
littleadonis
We all deserve a choice.
- Oct 27, 2024
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Not cap. The majority of Americans are far from being intelligent. I unfortunately have to work with a lot of them throughout the year. The most recent dummy I worked with was from Louisiana. He asked me what food my home "state" was known for and after I told him my home "province" was known for lobster he told me when he gets home he'll buy and import some to Louisiana. I told him it would probably be cheaper to order it from Maine and he said "is Maine closer to USA than your home 'state'?" .
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