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Anon1337

Mage
Oct 1, 2018
511
I've noticed more and more people bullying or making fun of FuneralCry. It's sad to see. When I see these posts accompanied by all the laughing reactions it reminds of some bully who says something about someone at school and all the other kids laugh in the background. They really should be deleted.
 
Dliena

Dliena

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Dec 22, 2023
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I'm not really one to ever make fun of anyone especially on here but maybe just report them for next time if it ever goes against the rules that's what I'll do from time to time.
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
2,507
I fully agree. I think that the people here ironically end up proving FC right. No wonder why FC despises all humans. It genuinely hurts to see FC get bullied because of her neurotype. It reminds me back when I got bullied I'm school due to my neurotype. I'm also glad that FC has the ability to ignore people and not engage with them unlike the people who have a saviour complex who try and convince her that her views are wrong. I wish I could ignore people the way she can but I end up going to an FC thread and feeling hurt over what other people say to her. The people who bully FC make me wish even more for FC to escape this world and to be a peace via permanent non existence. With everything that she's been through, she deserves permanent non existence. If I was able to travel to get N and somehow manage to sneak it back to where I am, I genuinely would buy some N for FC so she can escape this world. But of course I'm incapable of travelling sadly so I can't do anything
 
Circles

Circles

There's a difference between existing and living.
Sep 3, 2018
2,269
I agree no one should be bullying anyone even if you disagree with them. Given that bottom line is I simply disagree with some of what they post. I for one am tired of seeing them post about how shitty this site has become. How many times are they going to complain about it? Yet they still come here. And sure this site has changed, people come and go, hell this site used to feel like a small village with community but people still come here. There's still a community that understands the struggles of being suicidal despite whatever changes.

Also another thing is that I find their content to be more pro-death than pro-choice. I know there's hardly any difference between the two but there's still a distinction however small and it matters at least to me. It doesn't help that this site is smeared by the media and public for being pro-death already as is. I'm not saying they shouldn't post how they feel, only saying that what they post can be perceived differently by others. And god forbid someone disagrees.

Whether we like it or not the site has grown and has changed good or bad. But if FC doesn't like it and think it's become full of pro-lifers then that's on them. What's the purpose of pointing out that the site has changed and sucks constantly? Despite all the bullshit over the years this site is still amazing to me. Disagree if you want that's your right, but let's agree to disagree.
 
blackwidow

blackwidow

Road to nowhere
Aug 12, 2022
205
She's gives as good as she gets.. And repeatedly says she's not bothered at all with what other people think of her or thier opinions. I don't see any bullying..
 
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WoNkEy_DoNkEy

As Useful As A Chocolate Teapot 🫖
Apr 6, 2024
187
@Anon1337 she definitely doesn't deserve to be bullied but I think she's fair game for a lot of criticism because she attacks the forum quite a lot. Criticism can and should be civil but it need not pander to her.
 
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Dark Moon

Dark Moon

Death will give me peace
Sep 21, 2022
495
That's just how people are though. I've been disliked/hated by people for no reason whatsoever in the real world and online. I don't think you need to be ugly for this to happen. I try and ignore such people.

With FuneralCry she does keep bashing the site so she draws criticism from people.

I suppose this is why I don't like most humans, same as FuneralCry.
 
halleyscomet

halleyscomet

halley
Mar 26, 2024
179
I think FC has some very outlandish opinions, but she deserves a voice as much as anyone else does on this site.

We are here to talk about the raw reality of suicidality, and FC may have some extreme views, but that is exactly what this site has been created for.

I disagree with a lot of what she says, but I think her views are very interesting and absolutely deserve a space here.

I haven't personally seen any posts bullying her, as I haven't been on this site for a long amount of time, but I think if that is something that is happening it is very immature and shouldn't have a place here.

At the end of the day we are all here to vent and discuss the reality of suicide, anyone that does that here no matter in what way deserves to have a voice free from judgement.
 
Alexei_Kirillov

Alexei_Kirillov

Running very late for my appointment with Death
Mar 9, 2024
429
I fully agree. I think that the people here ironically end up proving FC right. No wonder why FC despises all humans. It genuinely hurts to see FC get bullied because of her neurotype. It reminds me back when I got bullied I'm school due to my neurotype. I'm also glad that FC has the ability to ignore people and not engage with them unlike the people who have a saviour complex who try and convince her that her views are wrong. I wish I could ignore people the way she can but I end up going to an FC thread and feeling hurt over what other people say to her. The people who bully FC make me wish even more for FC to escape this world and to be a peace via permanent non existence. With everything that she's been through, she deserves permanent non existence. If I was able to travel to get N and somehow manage to sneak it back to where I am, I genuinely would buy some N for FC so she can escape this world. But of course I'm incapable of travelling sadly so I can't do anything
Agreed. I find it ironic how despite the push for ASD "awareness," when people finally meet someone who isn't just the cutesy, quirky stereotype, their empathy suddenly disappears. How about a little grace?
 
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noname223

Angelic
Aug 18, 2020
4,418
I don't support bullying FC. However, I think her takes are pretty death-cult like and sometimes sort of suicide fetishism like. "Suicide should be straightforward, this website becomes too mainstream, there's no need to prolong the suffering" and stuff like that. Her intentions are clear when you read between the lines. She has autism and that (ending the suffering) is seemingly her special interest.

I don't think it is good to bully anyone on here. But I think it is very valid to discredit her (and her takes) otherwise her death cult position is adapted by the whole forum because everyone is scared to openly disagree with her due to the fact she calls you a pro-lifer if you do that. (in case she reads the reply which is seldom.) For me these aspects are the main reasons why I am confronting her takes more recently in this forum.

There are many more immature behaviors of her. Like calling her opinions the objective truth and discrediting people who revolt against her by giving them pejorative labels not only pro-life also insane or delusional. The last thing mentioned is a little bit manipulative in my opinion. But the points I described earlier are a bigger issue for me.
 
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Jorms_McGander

Specialist
Oct 17, 2023
388
I've seen an increase in FC criticizing new users by proxy by saying they have ruined this forum. But that's okay I guess.
then it'll be the new users' first lesson in using the mute button if they take it personally... moderators should be left to do their job, and individuals should be mindful of the impact of dogpiling any individual.

When somebody adds a reaction to a huge group of reactions, they know what they are doing. This is a conscious action taken by people who are accepting the role of bullies. It's not my prerogative what is or isn't acceptable, but I hate to see people causing pain and then acting like Steve Urkel with "DiD I dO thAT" when it's obvious that yes you did and you enjoyed it.
 
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Meteora

Ignorance is bliss
Jun 27, 2023
1,660
Indeed. We can disagree with what someone says without making fun of them, bullying etc.
It can also be that people feel offended by what someone says.
Bullying is never ok, though.
Is FC autistic?
 
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Tesha

Tesha

Life too shall pass
May 31, 2020
441
If someone, regardless of disability, is offending me or criticising my beliefs or choices, then they will get challenged by me. This isn't bullying, this is standing up for myself. It doesn't mean either of us is right - or wrong; it means we have different perspectives.

When you type something on a public forum, you have to expect to get a response. If you don't want a response, then use a paper diary or your hard drive.

When someone raises a point and then barely ever responds, then they're actively choosing not to defend their own position. It makes their position less credible and more open to challenge. It also means that actually they don't need to post on a public forum and they are possibly doing it for reasons other than 'being an outlet'.
 
SexyIncél

SexyIncél

🍭my lollipop brings the feminists to my candyshop
Aug 16, 2022
1,461
I agree. FC takes care not to target anyone personally

But I guess it's a suicide forum, and there's a bunch of damaged, angry people here looking to vent their worries at someone. There should be other suicide forums too, because a single one can't cater to everyone

And I imagine mods/admins are so close to burnout, they do too much for us
 
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Meteora

Ignorance is bliss
Jun 27, 2023
1,660
THank you @ijustwishtodie
Bullying is really ugly, the people who do that are ugly. They hate themselves and that's why they bully. Its often the case that people who bully got bullied themselves. I never got why you become a bully if you know how horrible it feels to be bullied....

People with neurodivergence, like FuneralCry or myself as well, are often a target. People seem to hate if others don't act or react the way they expect.
 
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escape_from_hell

Student
Feb 22, 2024
175
They hate themselves and that's why they bully. Its often the case that people who bully got bullied themselves.
I really wish that were true in all cases. Sadly, I think there are some truly nasty humans out there. Nature and society often rewards them with awesome lives if they are the truly evil bullies, just a very pessimistic anecdotal observation from me though. Those bullies with contrite hearts will be living a hellish life and here begging for mercy like the rest of us.
 
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Meteora

Ignorance is bliss
Jun 27, 2023
1,660
I really wish that were true in all cases. Sadly, I think there are some truly nasty humans out there. Nature and society often rewards them with awesome lives if they are the truly evil bullies, just a very pessimistic anecdotal observation from me though. Those bullies with contrite hearts will be living a hellish life and here begging for mercy like the rest of us.
I agree, the more manipulative you are, the easier it is in this world. I don t find it pessimistic, if anything, realistic, unfortunately.

I don t understand your last sentence, though.
 
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Dark Moon

Dark Moon

Death will give me peace
Sep 21, 2022
495
THank you @ijustwishtodie
Bullying is really ugly, the people who do that are ugly. They hate themselves and that's why they bully. Its often the case that people who bully got bullied themselves. I never got why you become a bully if you know how horrible it feels to be bullied....

People with neurodivergence, like FuneralCry or myself as well, are often a target. People seem to hate if others don't behave the way they expect.
Yeah I'm also neurodivergent and I don't intend to bully FC or anyone for that matter.
 
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wildflowers1996

wildflowers1996

Specialist
Oct 14, 2023
361
I'm not sure if I see things the way she does, but I've only seen her wish people the best and not push anyone else into ctb.
I'm sorry she's suffering so much and I wish so much there was a way she could find happiness, if not, at least relief from her pain.

Idk enough about what she's said about the website changing so can't really comment but I don't think she means any harm
 
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Meteora

Ignorance is bliss
Jun 27, 2023
1,660
I remember, I was sometimes confused about her opinion or even felt a bit offended. But after all, it is her opinion and I think she s allowed to express it.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
2,507
THank you @ijustwishtodie
Bullying is really ugly, the people who do that are ugly. They hate themselves and that's why they bully. Its often the case that people who bully got bullied themselves. I never got why you become a bully if you know how horrible it feels to be bullied....

People with neurodivergence, like FuneralCry or myself as well, are often a target. People seem to hate if others don't act or react the way they expect.
I've been bullied for a decade and I feel like a lot of bullies aren't bullies because they hate themselves. I think that they're bullies because it makes them feel good and also because they want power. At least that's for the general case. When it comes to FC specifically, I think that she gets bullied because of her views and repetition. I think people bully her because they're frustrated with her. I do think that she deserves criticism (though she doesn't really care about criticism so it's pointless to criticise her but still). However, bullying her isn't right especially when all she's doing is venting
 
cupcakesandmilk

cupcakesandmilk

??/??/20??
Oct 10, 2023
376
I've nothing against her personally, but the way she constantly posts about how some people are not "suicidal enough" to be on this website really grinds my gears...

Some people say that she gets egged on because of her mental illness, but I genuinely don't think that's the case (if it is, then I apologise). The only time I see people disagreeing with her is when she, again, posts about what I just mentioned, or when it's her complaining about the state of this website without providing any substantial evidence, both of whom directly call out to the users of this site, and none of these are some isolated incidents either.

I could go on and on, but it's pretty much become a paradox of her making those posts, people criticising her for them, and then her using those comments to further justify her points. It's just an all-around sad situation for anyone that gets involved, TBH, be it someone who's already in a bad spot stumbling across her posts and thinking that they might not be valid enough to be on this website, people who make genuine points to the literal void, or others that feel the need to stand up in her place because they're in a similar tough spot mentally.
 
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