Discussion Transhumanism is inevitable. I want to die before it happens.

[CemetryGates]

I agree with you, the future is bleak. I want out now. I just want to go out in peace I don't think it's too much to ask for. Why are we forced to stay here.

 

[Riddle]

It may not feel that way now, but technology is growing at an exponential rate: https://www.wrike.com/blog/exponential-growth-of-technology/
Changes in our everyday lives will soon be occuring faster than you could have ever imagined. Even if they don't lead to transhumanism (which I think is inevitable eventually).

By the 1960s, computer scientist (and Intel co-founder) Gordon Moore made an interesting observation. He noticed that every 12 months, engineers were able to double the number of transistors on a square inch piece of silicon.

Now they have only been doubling every 24 months so it has not been exponential, and some theorize that we will start brushing up against the fundamental physical limits when it comes to transistor size.

Edit: just realized darkover said the same thing already but seems like has actual knowledge of the mechanics

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

By the 1960s, computer scientist (and Intel co-founder) Gordon Moore made an interesting observation. He noticed that every 12 months, engineers were able to double the number of transistors on a square inch piece of silicon.

Now they have only been doubling every 24 months so it has not been exponential, and some theorize that we will start brushing up against the fundamental physical limits when it comes to transistor size.

The Moore's law goes into reverse and the transhumanists claim it's just awhile now for the quantum AI utopia wonderland

By the 1960s, computer scientist (and Intel co-founder) Gordon Moore made an interesting observation. He noticed that every 12 months, engineers were able to double the number of transistors on a square inch piece of silicon.

Now they have only been doubling every 24 months so it has not been exponential, and some theorize that we will start brushing up against the fundamental physical limits when it comes to transistor size.

The Moore's law goes into reverse and the transhumanists claim it's just awhile now for the quantum AI utopia wonderland

 

[AllMyDreams]

actually the time it takes to double transistor on a silicon wafer Moore's law has been slowing down its taking 3 years to double the amount of transistors on a chip when it was 1.8years to start with then 2 years now 3 years and currently only mostly build on a surface of a silicon wafer in 2d there are many layer that make up the chip but not really in 3d yet there's only one lay of transistors, the monthboard the same in 2d because the chips only have one layer of transiotors i consider technology progression to be to slow even the universe and atoms are to slow

By the 1960s, computer scientist (and Intel co-founder) Gordon Moore made an interesting observation. He noticed that every 12 months, engineers were able to double the number of transistors on a square inch piece of silicon.

Now they have only been doubling every 24 months so it has not been exponential, and some theorize that we will start brushing up against the fundamental physical limits when it comes to transistor size.

Edit: just realized darkover said the same thing already but seems like has actual knowledge of the mechanics

That's an interesting point, and thanks for bringing it up. It's reassuring that the Singularity at least isn't an immediate threat. However, my main concern are chips/gene editing/brain implants, which are being tested at this moment, and will no doubt be widespread at some point during my lifetime.

 

[Hurt]

I guess there's nothing.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

We're already seeing things being proposed such as microchips underneath the skin

They've been angling for this for years now. They just need a proper excuse to roll it out. Obviously it'll be done in the name of "safety".

 

[rationaltake]

they've been hyping self driving cars for decades it's been reported since the early 2000s that self driving cars where just around the corner still there not here.

They are already being used as taxis in the UK.

They've been angling for this for years now. They just need a proper excuse to roll it out. Obviously it'll be done in the name of "safety".

They currently seem to emphasise how useful these things are for people with disabilities.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I'm sure transhumanism will present new issues. But it doesn't depress me, it actually gives me more hope than concern. The natural state of affairs are hardly kind or fair. Some people are born ugly or diseased, which really pisses me off. And one hope of transhumanism is the elimination of that type of hideous inequality. Nature fails many of us, so we have to make up for its shortcomings.

 

[AllMyDreams]

I'm sure transhumanism will present new issues. But it doesn't depress me, it actually gives me more hope than concern. The natural state of affairs are hardly kind or fair. Some people are born ugly or diseased, which really pisses me off. And one hope of transhumanism is the elimination of that type of hideous inequality. Nature fails many of us, so we have to make up for its shortcomings.

Transhumanism can cure genetic conditions or make people better looking. But if we aren't careful, I think it will actually widen inequality and be used similarly to eugenics. People who have the resources to eg. be gene-modified would get gene-modified, and the upper class is now not just richer than the lower classes, but they are 'better types of human', who could get to hold all of the power and influence.

Similarly, those in positions of power might be able to get exempt from a microchip that everyone else has to have put in them.

 

[piger]

I'm a young (20s) man who's made a decent life for himself. I do have depression sometimes, but the main reason I'm on SS is that I'm worried about the future. In the next decades, it's inevitable that humans and technology will become more fused. We're already seeing things being proposed such as microchips underneath the skin, genetic editing and brain implants that would make humans in many ways dependent on machines in our systems. Machines that can be hacked and controlled by outside forces, including governments. With the Metaverse, humans will also start to live more of their lives in a fake world rather than this real one. This will make our lives less meaningful as in a fake world, your decisions and connections with other people matter far less than in a real one – especially if life extension technology is developed, and we no longer have any urgency to do things.

The scariest part here is that we might have even less control over when we want to die, since suicide could be much harder to accomplish if we are merged with a computer. Imagine being implanted with a chip that forces you to stop ingesting SN, or paralyzes you if you get too close to a railroad track, because you need to stay alive 'for the good of humanity'. Or imagine having your mind uploaded to a computer, where you can't even control your body anymore. It may sound paranoid, but I think it's perfectly conceivable within my lifetime. Look at what governments have gotten away with during the COVID pandemic – we already know they are perfectly comfortable upending our lives completely 'for the common good'.

I don't want to be part of a society where humans are merged with and dependent on machines. It would mean the end of an era where humans are sovereign and can, basically decide for themselves what their destiny is without fear of becoming "obsolete". At some point, being microchipped or implanted will likely become a requirement to be part of society, and living as a 'natural' human might not be a viable long-term strategy. So I'm here because I'd like to find a way to die before transhumanism becomes mainstream. It's very important to me that I die a 'natural', sovereign human.

Does anyone else feel this way, and if so, how do you plan to deal with transhumanism?

Aw sweet manmade horrors beyond our comprehension! There is no other hope but to die at this point. Humanity has dug itself a hole far too deep to climb out of.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

The arrogant step on others throats humans will be in control of this? How are we to trust them with such tech when they already abuse the weak ones. The weak ones should be in control to enforce equality the strong ones will use it and create more problems

 

[locked*n*loaded]

NEVER EVER NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! Certainly not in any way close to how you envision it. There may be some nano-robots or something someday to deliver meds to specific maladies in the human body. No one is EVER going to be half-computer and half-human. And they can keep their made-up, phony, fucking Metaverse, too. I'm the decider of what I do. No one else.