Train Shape

[Flairqueen]

I know it was discussed a lot on this forum, but still I have a question. If I head butt or jump before a high-speed train ICE 3 (max. 300 km/h, but I think it rides slower in my chosen area of tracks - I can only guess 100+ km/h) with such shape, will it kill me? Or the shape makes the death unlikely even despite high speed? Will the train just push me away?

 

[Someone123]

I would search by "train" for many threads on this topic. One person who said he used to drive a train here(at least that's what he said) hit 14 people trying to ctb- they all hit a couple people a year on average, it can't be avoided. 70% died, but not all instantly - one was in the hospital for 4 days. Survivors of this method often survive with amputated limbs, severe brain damage, paralysis, or other serious injuries. So the downside risk is huge. This is no way to guarantee that this method will work- many peopel post about puttingf your neck on the track, but you can so easily get knocked out of the way before this could work- trains have dvices to clear debris on the rails, so there is no way to make this a certain death- 70% is a good guess, but you are also risking these other horrible outcomes. To me this is a method I would avoid, but each person has to weight their own risks.

 

[Akanea]

Depends on the speed of trains where you decide to CTB. If you stand in the middle of the rail and take the train upfront, you will be reduced to bits almost instantly (IF THE TRAIN IS GOING FAST ENOUGH). The form of train doesn't matter much if you take it heads on. You are a squishy mass of liquids, the train will squeeze the liquids out of you at the impact. If you lay down with your neck on the rail, then you will die 100% too (decapitation)

 

[Someone123]

Depends on the speed of trains where you decide to CTB. If you stand in the middle of the rail and take the train upfront, you will be reduced to bits almost instantly (IF THE TRAIN IS GOING FAST ENOUGH). If you lay down with your neck on the rail, then you will die 100%

It really can't be 100%, the traikn can just send you flying, there is no way to make a train a 100% method.

 

[Akanea]

It really can't be 100%, the traikn can just send you flying, there is no way to make a train a 100% method.

There is. Your neck on the rail. You don't survive decapitation.

 

[Someone123]

There is. Your neck on the rail. You don't survive decapitation.

But most trains have sweeping devices on the under the car to clear debris from the rails, so you would likely get swept off the rails before this could happen- this is a total myth. You need to learn more about trains in order to understand that there is no method that is close to 100%.

 

[Vizzy]

But most trains have sweeping devices on the under the car to clear debris from the rails, so you would likely get swept off the rails before this could happen- this is a total myth. You need to learn more about trains in order to understand that there is no method that is close to 100%.

Which sweeping devices you talking about, send me a picture, I want to see which one swept the people of the rails

Decapitation from the train rail is not a myth, there are methods which are close to 100% and define what you mean by close to 100%?

 

[Someone123]

Which sweeping devices you talking about, send me a picture, I want to see which one swept the people of the rails

Decapitation from the train rail is not a myth, there are methods which are close to 100% and define what you mean by close to 100%?

From Wikipedia:
"A cowcatcher, also known as a pilot, is the device mounted at the front of a locomotive to deflect obstacles on the track that might otherwise damage or derail it or the train.

"In the UK, small metal bars called life-guards, rail guards or guard irons are provided immediately in front of the wheels. They knock away smaller obstacles lying directly on the running surface of the railhead. Historically, fenced-off railway systems in Europe relied exclusively on those devices and cowcatchers were not required, but in modern systems cowcatchers have generally superseded them.

"Instead of a cowcatcher, trams use a device called a fender. Objects lying on the tram track come in contact with a sensor bracket, which triggers the lowering of a basket-shaped device to the ground, preventing the overrunning of the obstacles and dragging them along the road surface in front of the wheels."

Train derailments would happen every day without devices to clear debris, and a human body is very light debris compared to the mass of a train. You can do further research on this if you like. You're making comments about a "100% method" while you have almost no knowledge of trains. You should do your own research, your ideas about this method are based on a fantasy world idea rather than being based on real knowledge. You should spend hours researching trains and attempted suicides by them, then you will know there is know way to get this close to 100%.

 

[Vizzy]

From Wikipedia:
"A cowcatcher, also known as a pilot, is the device mounted at the front of a locomotive to deflect obstacles on the track that might otherwise damage or derail it or the train.

"In the UK, small metal bars called life-guards, rail guards or guard irons are provided immediately in front of the wheels. They knock away smaller obstacles lying directly on the running surface of the railhead. Historically, fenced-off railway systems in Europe relied exclusively on those devices and cowcatchers were not required, but in modern systems cowcatchers have generally superseded them.

"Instead of a cowcatcher, trams use a device called a fender. Objects lying on the tram track come in contact with a sensor bracket, which triggers the lowering of a basket-shaped device to the ground, preventing the overrunning of the obstacles and dragging them along the road surface in front of the wheels."

Train derailments would happen every day without devices to clear debris, and a human body is very light debris compared to the mass of a train. You can do further research on this if you like. You're making comments about a "100% method" while you have almost no knowledge of trains. You should do your own research, your ideas about this method are based on a fantasy world idea rather than being based on real knowledge. YOU should spend hours researching trains and attaempted suicides by them, then you will know there is know way to get this close to 100%.

you confused me with sweeping devices that why you should use proper names when making a comment, I know about cowcatcher and fender

Where did I say train is "100% method", you should read the comment properly before making that statement then you can say to me to research and learn more about it

Why did you rant with all this below? Which doesn't make sense Lol

"You're making comments about a "100% method" while you have almost no knowledge of trains. You should do your own research, your ideas about this method are based on a fantasy world idea rather than being based on real knowledge. YOU should spend hours researching trains and attaempted suicides by them, then you will know there is know way to get this close to 100%."

I just asked you what close to 100% means to you, close the 100% can be anything!

 

[fay13]

i have been thinking about this method because my last one failed , it's just that i don't know where to look for it's tracks and what time it's going to pass and of course which tracks the train is going full speed , if anyone can help me with this , that would make me very happy

 

[Someone123]

I just asked you what close to 100% means to you, close the 100% can be anything!

I'm not going to pick a percent- a method that is close to 100%, if done correctly, is full suspension. However, some peopel have been rescued at twenty minutes or longer- in some cases in good health, in some cases very damaged. But full suspension if done correctly in a person's own house where no one else lives is close to 100%- the only things that seem to cause this to fail are interruption or not setting this up properly- that is what I mean by close to 100%. However it can be far from peaceful and you can struggle for a long time before you go with this method.

You said:

"If you lay down with your neck on the rail, then you will die 100% "

that is not true at all- your body will be hit before your neck is hit and you could go flying or get pulled under- if someone believes this they could do this method and end up badly damaged but alive. So it is important to counter statements like the one above, which is just a fantasy world idea.

 

[Vizzy]

I'm not going to pick a percent- a method that is close to 100%, if done correctly, is full suspension. However, some peopel have been rescued at twenty minutes or longer- in some cases in good health, in some cases very damaged. But full suspension if done correctly in a person's own house where no one else lives is close to 100%- the only things that seem to cause this to fail are interruption or not setting this up properly- that is what I mean by close to 100%. However it can be far from peaceful and you can struggle for a long time before you go with this method.

Methods that are close to 100% is not only full suspension, there are other methods which can be 100% sure if you take the right dosage and done correctly, those methods are N, nitrogen gas, Ddma mixture and co with charcoal

N which is Nembutal taken at right dosage, no one surviving that, zero survival rate, in the state of Oregon more than 300 people took N for assisted suicide no one survived, this is peaceful and painless

Nitrogen gas method can be 100% if it is done correctly and death happen in 10 to 15 minutes which is peaceful and painless

Ddma drug mixture can be 100% if taken right dosage, in the state of Oregon more than 200 people used Ddma for assisted suicide no one survived and it is peaceful and painless

Co with charcoal same as nitrogen gas if done correctly

I think you should do your research before saying full suspension can be only 100% method

You said:

"If you lay down with your neck on the rail, then you will die 100% "

Where did I say that exact statement, show me that as I didn't say that statement

that is not true at all- your body will be hit before your neck is hit and you could go flying or get pulled under- if someone believes this they could do this method and end up badly damaged but alive. So it is important to counter statements like the one above, which is just a fantasy world idea.

This is not true in all the cases

 

[Flairqueen]

The problem about decapitation is - trains in Germany really do have cowcatchers. I am not sure about at what height they are placed, but I have seen some - I doubt my head is that small to get between the pilot and rails. You can check photos of ICE 3, too - maybe you have another opinion.

Therefore, I am going for headbutting/jumping. As I have heard, 80 km/h is enough. Is that truly so (80-90 certainty or more)?

 

[fay13]

The problem about decapitation is - trains in Germany really do have cowcatchers. I am not sure about at what height they are placed, but I have seen some - I doubt my head is that small to get between the pilot and rails. You can check photos of ICE 3, too - maybe you have another opinion.

Therefore, I am going for headbutting/jumping. As I have heard, 80 km/h is enough. Is that truly so (80-90 certainty or more)?

why not just stand in front of the train ? does it not work?

 

[Someone123]

I think you should do your research before saying full suspension can be only 100% method

I did not say that full suspension is the only nearly 100% method- you need to read more carefully- I never said anything like that. I did say that train is definitely not one of those methods though, and that very often people who survive this method have limbs amputated, etc.. Done correctly, charcoal can be close to 100%, but many posts of people failing with this method show that doing this correctly is very difficult for a lot of people. Other methods can be clkose to 100%, but there is no 100% method that I know of. People have survived jumping from 60 stories, peopel trying full suspension with a thick rope sometimes fail because there is eakness in the rope they can't see, etc. No method is 100%. WIth drugs someon could have made d mistkae in the manfacturing process which causes it to fail, etc. Some methods done correctly are close to 100%, but there are fluke things that can cause any method to fail. Train is not even close to 100%. 70% is a good estimate.

 

[Vizzy]

I did not say that full suspension is the only nearly 100% method- you need to read more carefully- I never said anything like that. I did say that train is definitely not one of those methods though, and that very often people who survive this method have limbs amputated, etc.. Done correctly, charcoal can be close to 100%, but many posts of people failing with this method show that doing this correctly is very difficult for a lot of people. Other methods can be clkose to 100%, but there is no 100% method that I know of. People have survived jumping from 60 stories, peopel trying full suspension with a thick rope sometimes fail because there is eakness in the rope they can't see, etc. No method is 100%. WIth drugs someon could have made d mistkae in the manfacturing process which causes it to fail, etc. Some methods done correctly are close to 100%, but there are fluke things that can cause any method to fail. Train is not even close to 100%. 70% is a good estimate.

I read carefully but you didn't mentioned anywhere about other methods, you just talked only about the full suspension as 100% method, I don't write comments without reading carefully!

I didn't say train is 100% method, everything else you just said some random percentage which I already know!

You said:

"If you lay down with your neck on the rail, then you will die 100% "

You didn't answer my question, Where did I say that exact statement, show me that as I didn't say that statement

 

[Someone123]

I read carefully but you didn't mentioned anywhere about other methods, you just talked only about the full suspension as 100% method, I don't write comments without reading carefully!

But I did not say that there were no other methods that were nearly 100%, you assumed this even though I didn't say this, so your reading comprehension is not very good, because this was a big assumption to make. I used full suspension as an example of a nearly 100% method, but I did not in any way at all say that there were no other methods like this- this was completely in your head, and it was nothing I communicated at all. If you don't admit, at least to yourself, that you need to improve your reading comprehension it won't get better.
Yesterday at 350am you said:

If you lay down with your neck on the rail, then you will die 100% too (decapitation)-

it's just a few posts back.

verything else you just said some random percentage which I already know!

70% is not a random precentage- at I explanied at 314am yesterday a person who posted here said he was a train driver, and he explaianed his experiences in great deatil and I believe him, that he hit 14 peopl trying to ctb during this time wqhenb he drove traion, and 10 died- that is 70%. This is a real world number, not a random number.

why not just stand in front of the train ? does it not work?

It might- that's a lot like sayig why not jump in front of a truck on the expressway, doesn't that work? It will work some of the time and not others. You can be sen t flying on you will most likely get major head trauma but, depending on how you fall after randomly being thrown your body might take most of the impact and you might survue- many peopl have survived suicide attempts by train, this is well documneted, often with amputated limbs.