Story Tonight is the flight.

[Johnnythefox]

I've just read his posts on this thread and my bullshit detector has just blown a fuse.

 

[littlelady774]

I'm one of those guillable / vulnerable people. I'd really like to believe this method is peaceful.
It'd be a shame if someone lied about their attempt just for attention.
That can affect a lot of people

 

[Johnnythefox]

It'd be a shame if someone lied about their attempt just for attention

Unfortunately not everyone is honest on the Internet.

 

[Johnnythefox]

 

[Taylored]

Unfortunately not everyone is honest on the Internet.

I really hope we are all wrong and we aren't being lied to if so thats horrible

 

[RedBuns]

I forget their username but someone on here said they were at Pulmonics side when he died, so... Idk i'm so confused!? Maybe someone logged on his account?

Edit: the person who I originally thought said was by his side, actually was not, and meant they were by his side online not in person. I apologize. I do hope he's okay though..

 

[mattwitt]

I'm one of those guillable / vulnerable people. I'd really like to believe this method is peaceful.
It'd be a shame if someone lied about their attempt just for attention.
That can affect a lot of people

A lot of people would like to believe the SN method is peaceful and quick because PN is and has been pushing and promoting it to be so. I was one of those people myself about 6 months ago. I don't know if Pulmonicis is someone just trying to push SN as peaceful and quick for some reason (pph credibility) but his comments about what he was going through after supposedly ingesting SN were almost word for word straight from the PPEH's one and only case study they have reported.

 

[Redt2go]

come out come out.......wherever you are! nothing to be ashamed of if your attempt went tits up! if he was online then he failed in his attempt!

Even if it was a failed attempt why do you care so much? When everyone thought he was dead y'all started talking about random shit on his goodbye thread. If he faked it and you didn't care before why do you care now? Bored?

 

[OfficerK]

I forget their username but someone on here said they were at Pulmonics side when he died, so... Idk i'm so confused!? Maybe someone logged on his account?

Another person here, whose method was also sn, left his username for his loved ones to see. This lead to one of his family members reaching out to a member of this forum in an attempt at trying to figure out why they had made the choice to ctb. It is not impossible that the same has happened here, and that someone close to him accessed a device of his where he was still logged on to this site, hoping that they could find answers here.

Of course, it's also not out of the question that he is actually alive and dumb enough to not realize that others can see your current status. We should really be careful about assuming anything at all.

 

[ReadyasEver]

Hey Way Out, I'm going to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The alternative of calling someone out and they did CTB, my conscience would be in tatters. First time, shame on me, second time, shame on you.

 

[Anubis901]

Another way of looking at it - did Pulmonicis ever go offline? If not, then since they were allegedly giving updates, it is conceivable that someone would stay showing online if they never logged out prior to losing consciousness. If someone has not been found or the electronic device powered down, the online status would likely stay.

 

[Didymus]

Another way of looking at it - did Pulmonicis ever go offline? If not, then since they were allegedly giving updates, it is conceivable that someone would stay showing online if they never logged out prior to losing consciousness. If someone has not been found or the electronic device powered down, the online status would likely stay.

I saw status "engaged in conversation" yesterday, so someone must have used the device or account.

 

[WayOut]

Hey Way Out, I'm going to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The alternative of calling someone out and they did CTB, my conscience would be in tatters. First time, shame on me, second time, shame on you.

With bullshit like we saw here? No conscience no shame feeling just fine. Thanks

 

[ReadyasEver]

With bullshit like we saw here? No conscience no shame feeling just fine. Thanks

Fair enough my friend

 

[MistakesHappen]

SN causes Methemoglobinemia, so at least we can for sure know the symptoms that this blood disorder cause.

Spoiler: Wikipedia

Signs and symptoms of methemoglobinemia (methemoglobin level above 10%) include shortness of breath, cyanosis, mental status changes (~50%), headache, fatigue, exercise intolerance, dizziness, and loss of hairlines.
People with severe methemoglobinemia (methemoglobin level above 50%) may exhibit seizures, coma, and death (>70%).[2] Healthy people may not have many symptoms with methemoglobin levels below 15%.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methemoglobinemia

Spoiler: Healthline.com

As methemoglobin levels increase, symptoms continue to get more serious. These can include:

• headache
• shortness of breath
• nausea
• rapid heart rate
• fatigue and lethargy
• confusion or stupor
• loss of consciousness

https://www.healthline.com/health/methemoglobinemia#symptoms

We don't know with absolute certainty if Pulmonicis faked, so we wan stipulate 3 hypothesis:

1. SN, because of some strange interactions or something else, does cause euphoria and, of course, other symptoms.
2. SN does not cause euphoria, Methemoglobinemia cause confusion tho, and Pulmonicis experienced a placebo effect. I know it sounds unlikely but it's still something we have to consider.
3. Pulmonicis faked for whatever reason and his experience it's not valid.

I honestly still consider SN an option. It's not as peaceful as N, for example, but non as bad as someone is depicting it here.

Antiemetic is obligatory, antiacid it's optional but it sure helps make the "process" faster. I would say antiacid is highly recommended.

If i'm wrong about something feel free to notify the error, i'm not an expert, i'm just a guy who has done a quick research.

(Let's stop talking about SN, it's not the right thread. I'll copypaste this comment in the SN megathread.)

 

[WayOut]

Pulmonicis faked for whatever reason and his experience it's not valid.

There is enough evidence to say it is very likely this option.

Feliing so weeeakkk and sleeeeepyyyyy

If a person is disorientated, or gradually becoming mentally incapacitated in some way, in speech they may begin to slur their words. In writing or typing, the words gradually become misspelled, then ungrammatical, until, if the person has the strength to go on a bit more, the words become completely nonsensical.

Nobody who is experiencing increasing mental confusion prior to falling unconscious, actually spells out the way they think *slurred* words would sound if spoken. "weeeakkk and sleeeeepyyyyy". It doesn't happen. It's not a thing.

This is only one of many indicators. It was fake. It is not reliable evidence of anything, other than a person trolling here. Just because people don't like the idea of such deception and really want to believe this thing really happened, doesn't make it true.

I hate being blunt, fwiw, and don't like being the bad guy here, but I won't sit quietly while real people here are taken in by a lowlife troll.

 

[Johnnythefox]

"weeeakkk and sleeeeepyyyyy.

Yeah my bullshit detector was smoking at this, had to disconnect it from the mains,
thought it was going to explode.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Yeah my bullshit detector was smoking at this, had to disconnect it from the mains,
thought it was going to explode.

 

[MistakesHappen]

I'm not saying he did not fake, at the same time i'm not saying that he did.

I was online when he "took SN" and i also noticed that he was writing in an exaggerated way.
I'm saying that we don't know for sure. The last hypothesis is the more probable and more supported, still not 100% certain.

 

[Macc Lad]

maybe he'll be back online later!! if it was a genuine attempt that failed or he was found then there is nothing to be ashamed of.......the fact he ain't saying anything suggests it was bullshit!

 

[Ldog9]

The green day stuff seemed... kinda like a troll I dunno I didn't wanna judge

 

[WayOut]

The green day stuff seemed... kinda like a troll I dunno I didn't wanna judge

Of course you don't want to judge! That's the thing about this forum. There are many genuine people who support each other in these worst of circumstances. You don't want to be suspicious of people you become friends with. People need to trust.

I'm not part of the community in that way. I don't have friends here. I'm just the suspicious cranky guy who has some relevant skills and experience that are occasionally useful here.

 

[JustAboutDone]

@WayOut i don't think you're suspicious and cranky wanting to possibly protect people from having their emotions hurt from investing in caring - or worse, ingesting something and expecting a peaceful death outcome based on a "possibly" not entirely accurate account.

Not everyone is hugs hearts and kitkats and that's a good thing because hard facts and real knowledge on medical things are more useful when it comes down to things like this.

 

[Redt2go]

This all should really be in another thread. Because if he did attempt and failed and experienced placebo effects this is all really fucked up.

 

[MistakesHappen]

It's not fucked up imo

 

[Redt2go]

It's not fucked up imo

Because you're 100% sure he faked it. There's no way to be 100% sure

 

[MistakesHappen]

I'm not saying he did not fake, at the same time i'm not saying that he did.

Ehm...

Maybe it is really "fucked up" but still necessary.
What Pulmonicis wrote was completely out of what we expect from taking SN.
We have to make things clear in case someone reads this thread and proceed to take SN thinking that it will be peaceful af.

if we discover in the future that SN gives a peaceful death then we can take our word back, for now it is better to be on the safe side

 

[Redt2go]

Ehm...

Maybe it is really "fucked up" but still necessary.
What Pulmonicis wrote was completely out of what we expect from taking SN.
We have to make things clear in case someone reads this thread and proceed to take SN thinking that it will be peaceful af.

if we discover in the future that SN gives a peaceful death then we can take our word back, for now it is better to be on the safe side

Thats true but 1 comment would suffice. Y'all are just going on and on .We get it. May as well start another thread

 

[MistakesHappen]

Totally agree, that's why i copied my comment on the other sn thread.

The "problem" was that some users and i had to clarify a few things, we shouldn't have discussed here, i know.

 

[ReadyasEver]

Best thing to do is wipe this thread if the mods and admins are suspicious too.