Discussion Thoughts on phenobarbital?

[hexesandcurses]

I recently got 90 tablets of 16mg phenobarbital and wondered what people recommended/thought of it as a method? I couldn't really find a straight answer when looking through other threads.

Is it similar to N or Pentobarbital?

 

[makethepainstop]

I recently got 90 tablets of 16mg phenobarbital and wondered what people recommended/thought of it as a method? I couldn't really find a straight answer when looking through other threads.

Is it similar to N or Pentobarbital?

Pentobarbital very likely is like n, expensive and hard to get your hands on in the USA!

 

[just_wanna_die]

Phenobarbital is often confused with Pentobarbital (also known as Nembutal, a brand name) but PHENO is slower acting.

However, if you do a Google search for the Heaven's Gate cult, you will discover that a mass suicide of its members in March 1997 took place using an overdose of phenobarbitol, vodka, and plastic bags over the heads. 100% success rate of 39 men (18) and women (21) ranging in age from 26 to 72.

So it can be an effective means of cbt.

If you have 90 tablets of 16mg you *may* not have enough. Having said that, the key points from the cult members are to be sure to wash it down with alcohol and use a plastic bag. Just my 2 cents.

 

[hexesandcurses]

Phenobarbital is often confused with Pentobarbital (also known as Nembutal, a brand name) but PHENO is slower acting.

However, if you do a Google search for the Heaven's Gate cult, you will discover that a mass suicide of its members in March 1997 took place using an overdose of phenobarbitol, vodka, and plastic bags over the heads. 100% success rate of 39 men (18) and women (21) ranging in age from 26 to 72.

So it can be an effective means of cbt.

If you have 90 tablets of 16mg you *may* not have enough. Having said that, the key points from the cult members are to be sure to wash it down with alcohol and use a plastic bag. Just my 2 cents.

Do you know if mixing it with any other drugs might make it more effective or at least make up for the low dosage? I've got access to quite a few things in the medicine cabinet. Nothing like N or other big name barbiturates/narcotics but maybe something. I do have lots of alcohol on hand though.

 

[speck]

I recently got 90 tablets of 16mg phenobarbital and wondered what people recommended/thought of it as a method? I couldn't really find a straight answer when looking through other threads.

Is it similar to N or Pentobarbital?

Wait, how? Was impossible to source phenobarbital this summer?

 

[hexesandcurses]

Wait, how? Was impossible to source phenobarbital this summer?

Relative has a bunch of it because of a dog they had. I just happen to be housesitting again for them. It's the only way I could get something like this since it is so hard to come by.

 

[just_wanna_die]

Do you know if mixing it with any other drugs might make it more effective or at least make up for the low dosage? I've got access to quite a few things in the medicine cabinet. Nothing like N or other big name barbiturates/narcotics but maybe something. I do have lots of alcohol on hand though.

I do not claim to be an expert on Phenobarbitol or anything, but it is my understanding that a Pheno overdose will basically put you into a deep sleep, but the amount you have probably won't be enough to kill you all by itself.

You could improve your chances if you were to wash it down with your favorite alcoholic beverage (which helps to potentiate it, which is why all Big Pharma drugs have warnings to not take it with alcohol for it may be fatal), and the use of a plastic bag over your head. The Pheno & alcohol puts you into a comatose state and the bag cuts off your air supply after a short while, depending on the size of the bag.

By the way, N does this too in overdoes without a bag as it slows your central nervous system and your breathing becomes very shallow, and the person dies of painless asphyxiation because they are not getting enough oxygen to the brain, but this may take hours, hence the use of the bag to speed up the process.

Since the Pheno/alcohol will cause you to be in such a deep sleep you would be immobilized, in a coma, thus overriding any Hypercapnic Alarm Response from your body to rip off the bag (leading to failure) as the CO2 level rises inside the bag and in your bloodstream. You would simply go to sleep and not wake up, just like the Heaven's Gate cult members did in 1997. First responders said that they all looked like they were sleeping. Peaceful, calm, no panic, or contorted faces.

This is how I plan to go one of these nights using a plastic bag and an alcoholic beverage when I am ready. But in my case, I have actual powdered N at my disposal that I was able to get several years ago from China before that avenue was closed. The N will put me to a deep sleep within 3 minutes, into a coma shortly after that, and a large 96-gallon bag that I have prepared in advance, that I can quickly secure over my head before the N takes effect and that will painlessly asphyxiate me without me realizing it within 1 to 2 hours, not 12 to 20 hours if using N all by itself, thereby greatly reducing the chance of possible discovery and unwanted rescue.

A person can go for a month without food. A week without water. But less than 5 minutes without air.

So no matter what you take, even an overdose of strong prescription sleeping pills (which will not kill anyone, just shut off the otherwise automatic Hypercapnic Alarm Response process), when used with an "exit bag" will be a quick and reliable way to go. This was a preferred method in the PPeH book years ago. They abandoned it in favor of N when it was available from China, and because elderly people with severe health issues may not be able to secure an "exit bag" over their head properly leading to failed attempts. Assuming you're not elderly with any serious health problems, this could be your way to catch the bus.

 

[hexesandcurses]

I do not claim to be an expert on Phenobarbitol or anything, but it is my understanding that a Pheno overdose will basically put you into a deep sleep, but the amount you have probably won't be enough to kill you all by itself.

You could improve your chances if you were to wash it down with your favorite alcoholic beverage (which helps to potentiate it, which is why all Big Pharma drugs have warnings to not take it with alcohol for it may be fatal), and the use of a plastic bag over your head. The Pheno & alcohol puts you into a comatose state and the bag cuts off your air supply after a short while, depending on the size of the bag.

By the way, N does this too in overdoes without a bag as it slows your central nervous system and your breathing becomes very shallow, and the person dies of painless asphyxiation because they are not getting enough oxygen to the brain, but this may take hours, hence the use of the bag to speed up the process.

Since the Pheno/alcohol will cause you to be in such a deep sleep you would be immobilized, in a coma, thus overriding any Hypercapnic Alarm Response from your body to rip off the bag (leading to failure) as the CO2 level rises inside the bag and in your bloodstream. You would simply go to sleep and not wake up, just like the Heaven's Gate cult members did in 1997. First responders said that they all looked like they were sleeping. Peaceful, calm, no panic, or contorted faces.

This is how I plan to go one of these nights using a plastic bag and an alcoholic beverage when I am ready. But in my case, I have actual powdered N at my disposal that I was able to get several years ago from China before that avenue was closed. The N will put me to a deep sleep within 3 minutes, into a coma shortly after that, and a large 96-gallon bag that I have prepared in advance, that I can quickly secure over my head before the N takes effect and that will painlessly asphyxiate me without me realizing it within 1 to 2 hours, not 12 to 20 hours if using N all by itself, thereby greatly reducing the chance of possible discovery and unwanted rescue.

A person can go for a month without food. A week without water. But less than 5 minutes without air.

So no matter what you take, even an overdose of strong prescription sleeping pills (which will not kill anyone, just shut off the otherwise automatic Hypercapnic Alarm Response process), when used with an "exit bag" will be a quick and reliable way to go. This was a preferred method in the PPeH book years ago. They abandoned it in favor of N when it was available from China, and because elderly people with severe health issues may not be able to secure an "exit bag" over their head properly leading to failed attempts. Assuming you're not elderly with any serious health problems, this could be your way to catch the bus.

Thank you so much for all of this! I really appreciate the time you took to explain everything. I have a much better understanding of this now and will keep it in mind as I look into more methods. Your own method sounds almost perfect if I can ever obtain N in a relatively affordable and not shady fashion.

Exit bags in particular have always seemed like the best way out of all the more "accessible" options, if done properly. I've been working on my impulsiveness when it comes to all of this so I can ensure a decently peaceful and surefire way out that wouldn't be insanely traumatic for someone to find. I know either way it will be devastating (that's another topic for another day) but I feel slightly better if someone finds me similar to how they found the members of Heaven's Gate instead of, say, if they found me after I used a firearm.

Thank you again for all of this information. I hope you find peace someday in whatever form suits you best.

 

[GasMonkey]

I have actual powdered N at my disposal that I was able to get several years ago from China before that avenue was closed.

I have that powdered N too (from J), this was my result from the Lab:



Have you tested yours?

 

[just_wanna_die]

No, I did not test mine, but I was aware of the fact that J's N was perhaps of lesser potency. Assuming the testing service is accurate and if you have 25 grams of N at 59%, that is still nearly 14.75 grams of N. As I detailed above in a previous post, if you combine that with a plastic bag and your favorite alcoholic beverage to wash it down with, it should provide you with a peaceful exit, if you are left undisturbed for a few hours (preferably done at night).

 

[GasMonkey]

Do you mind letting me know how you got your N tested via PM? I am sourcing powdered N and want to test the potency to calculate the dose.

EnergyControl, Barcelona Lab, it's free.

 

[help56]

Very informative