Discussion Thoughts on Hydrogen Sulfide?

[Install-Gentoo]

I've noticed a bit of a lack of information regarding hydrogen sulfide death. It really seems like the perfect way to go. You die literally instantaneously, and the materials are decently available. I wish more people knew about this though, because people shouldn't have to resort to violent or unreliable methods.
I struggled for a bit with finding the exact right source of sulfur but I have the right materials now.
You need Calcium Polysulfate, which is used as a fungicide, and hydrochloric acid, which is found in Lysol toilet bowl cleaner, although in relatively low concentration.
I'm a little unsure about how much is necessary to die though, but I imagine pouring the stuff into a bucket and then putting your face right in the bucket would be a pretty effective method of exposure.
So... I don't know. Anyone want to chime in on this? Why is it so obscure of a method? I mean sure, it requires the absolute minimal amount of chemistry knowledge but beyond that it's quite simple. In 2008 there were a lot of cases in Japan but other than that, it's barely known about.

 

[AloneInCollege]

It would definitely pose a danger to the person/people that find you. Especially if they're not first responders trained for this kind of thing. You would have to be very carful on choosing a location and with leaving notes and warnings.

 

[Install-Gentoo]

It would definitely pose a danger to the person/people that find you. Especially if they're not first responders trained for this kind of thing. You would have to be very carful on choosing a location and with leaving notes and warnings.

For sure, yeah. I'm thinking of doing it in my car and writing warnings around the doors and stuff. But if you lived in the top floor of an apartment (H2S sinks) then it would be a very bad idea.

 

[Gemini]

I remember reading about it in a Homeland Security report. (I had to read that kind of stuff because of my studies). And it warned the first responders of suicide incidents to always consider the possibility of encountering Hydrogen Sulfide if they don't know how the person committed suicide and proceed with caution, because apparently there have been several incidents where people who found the victim subsequently died, too, because the suicide technique was Hydrogen Sulfide. So, yes it is a suicide method with an extremely high mortality rate, but not only for the person committing suicide, so, caution must be exercised.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Hydrogen sulfide? Isn't that the gas that smells like rotten eggs, and makes farts smell bad?

Or am I thinking of a different gas?

Oh, and if you put your face right in the bucket, put a garbage bag over your head first. Otherwise, the gas will escape into the room.

 

[Install-Gentoo]

Hydrogen sulfide? Isn't that the gas that smells like rotten eggs, and makes farts smell bad?

Or am I thinking of a different gas?

Oh, and if you put your face right in the bucket, put a garbage bag over your head first. Otherwise, the gas will escape into the room.

Yes, it does smell bad when in super small quantities. When over a concentration of 0.3%, it eliminates your ability to smell anything at all, so you won't even notice.
Is the gas escaping all that bad? Especially if I'm inside a car.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Is the gas escaping all that bad? Especially if I'm inside a car.

Yes, any gas that escapes is a gas wasted. You want it to reach your lungs, not the stratosphere.

The only problem with being inside a car is the SI: nothing prevents you from opening the car door.

 

[Install-Gentoo]

Yes, any gas that escapes is a gas wasted. You want it to reach your lungs, not the stratosphere.

The only problem with being inside a car is the SI: nothing prevents you from opening the car door.

But you don't seem to realize, hydrogen sulfide kills you *very* quickly. Like you are unconscious within 5 seconds and dead within 2 minutes quick. Also it's heavier than air so it sinks downward, not to be confused with hydrogen cyanide which rises up
But I guess a bag isn't that bad of an idea. You're right about the SI issue, but like I said, just not enough time for that to even be a problem.

 

[Jrmull1993]

Like you are unconscious within 5 seconds and dead within 2 minutes quick.

You are only unconscious in 5 seconds once the gas reaches a certain concentration. It will take time to reach that concentration (~500 to ~700ppm). That concentration will have to continue to rise at an exponential rate to reach death in your 2 minute estimated timeline.

Hopefully @GasMonkey is able to chime in, he seems very knowledgeable in these methods.

Hydrogen Sulfide - Hazards | Occupational Safety and Health Administration

www.osha.gov

 

[Install-Gentoo]

You are only unconscious in 5 seconds once the gas reaches a certain concentration. It will take time to reach that concentration (~500 to ~700ppm). That concentration will have to continue to rise at an exponential rate to reach death in your 2 minute estimated timeline.

Hopefully @GasMonkey is able to chime in, he seems very knowledgeable in these methods.

Hydrogen Sulfide - Hazards | Occupational Safety and Health Administration

www.osha.gov

Oh... I don't know why I didn't think of that. Feel kind of stupid now. I thought that, being two liquids, the reaction would be pretty quick.

 

[Jrmull1993]

Oh... I don't know why I didn't think of that. Feel kind of stupid now. I thought that, being two liquids, the reaction would be pretty quick.

It might be fairly quick, to be honest I don't know how fast it will offgas HydrogenSulfide.

One idea might be to produce the gas in an enclosed space while monitoring air levels. Once the preferred concentration is reached than immerse yourself in that environment.

There are few members of this form who are very well versed in the gaseous methods, they'll be able to provide more insight.

 

[hellispink]

It was my method before I switched to SN. It is a good one. Ideally, a car is needed because of the small sealed space it provides. Also, a person should consider putting signs in the vehicle pointing outside. This is to alert the police enforcement of toxicity in the air so they do not find themselves in any harm of any type. As for the amount, the bucket must be like almost half. The ppm ideally is like 700, but 1000 is better. The more bottles of each product the better. The concentration has to be high in order to reach its potential level. This method requires research and patience but at the end I find it for myself, very reliable. As for the smell, it is eggs. I don't really care as my suffering is worse here (why would I complain). If it smells bad, I just handle it. I was thinking of doing it in a closet, since I do not have a car. But sealing needed to be done perfectly.

 

[Obliviate]

woah wait........this is interesting. I wonder why it's not in the PPEH? is it painful? besides the toxicity to others I mean
@GasMonkey Please help

 

[Duckup]

bump

 

[Obliviate]

Actually I've seen a couple threads where people have survived and it was very painful and risky.......so I guess nevermind......*sigh*

 

[Tiberius85]

woah wait........this is interesting. I wonder why it's not in the PPEH? is it painful? besides the toxicity to others I mean
@GasMonkey Please help

It is in it: in the 2022 PPH, page 171.

Confirms there, as outlined here before by you guys, it's pretty easy to be done with ingredients easily obtainable. Calls out the risk to others a major drawback, but there are ways around that if done in a car for example and putting warning signs out to not put those who find you in danger.

Seems like it's a pretty certain thing: gets a 10 for reliability, may not be so "peaceful" but certainly death comes at a rapid pace.

Sounds like a simple, reliable method that's available to many.

 

[Install-Gentoo]

It is in it: in the 2022 PPH, page 171.

Confirms there, as outlined here before by you guys, it's pretty easy to be done with ingredients easily obtainable. Calls out the risk to others a major drawback, but there are ways around that if done in a car for example and putting warning signs out to not put those who find you in danger.

Seems like it's a pretty certain thing: gets a 10 for reliability, may not be so "peaceful" but certainly death comes at a rapid pace.

Sounds like a simple, reliable method that's available to many.

That's why I wish it was more well-known, because of how easy it is and how reliable it is. Too many people choose painful and violent methods and I see people here struggling with getting nembutal or SN due to availability issues.
But alternatively, if it were more well known, the materials would be more restricted. Already, I was surprised that I couldn't find CaS5 in my local hardware store, I could only get it online. Modern fungicide is all copper based, not sulfur.

 

[Onw9]

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That's why I wish it was more well-known, because of how easy it is and how reliable it is. Too many people choose painful and violent methods and I see people here struggling with getting nembutal or SN due to availability issues.
But alternatively, if it were more well known, the materials would be more restricted. Already, I was surprised that I couldn't find CaS5 in my local hardware store, I could only get it online. Modern fungicide is all copper based, not sulfur.

What's CaS5?

 

[Install-Gentoo]

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What's CaS5?

Calcium polysulfide
you need to react that with hydrochloric acid to make hydrogen sulfide
...at least that's the easy way - there are some more convoluted methods to making the gas
I remember earlier on my path I saw sources just saying "sulfur fungicide" and didn't specify which - so please make sure to get calcium *poly*sulfide. CaS, regular calcium sulfide will not work. And of course just sulfur dust does not work at all
so yeah. CaS5 + HCl = some other stuff + H2S (hydrogen sulfide)

Actually I've seen a couple threads where people have survived and it was very painful and risky.......so I guess nevermind......*sigh*

idk... I feel like they must have used the wrong material or they did something wrong. Every single source I find recounts the very strong reliability of it. And the fact that I've heard zero stories from survivors of it should be telling (but then again I started on this forum this week and am reporting based on other sources)

 

[p-funk]

I found an old thread here with lots of information. While an interesting alternative, this method doesn't sound too reliable and puts others at risk.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/hydrogen-sulfide-gas-method.90103/

 

[Install-Gentoo]

I found an old thread here with lots of information. While an interesting alternative, this method doesn't sound too reliable and puts others at risk.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/hydrogen-sulfide-gas-method.90103/

reading the first post it just seems incredibly reliable. Don't see where thats an issue.
frankly... don't care about the putting others at risk part. I'll do it in a remote place in my car. If it outgasses, so what - it'll spread into the forest. And that potential for danger to others just adds more time to avoid being "saved" by others, since they will have to suit up to approach the area, or die going in with no protection.

 

[p-funk]

You don't care if others die? Hope you would put warning signs up.

According to other posts, you have to wait several minutes for the concentration to reach 1000 ppm and you're screwed if it doesn't for whatever reason. H2S burns your throat and lungs and there's a possibility of chemical burns if the liquid splashes on you.

From @UpandDownPrincess reply in the above thread.

"Don't do this.

You can survive, you can be scarred and damaged, and it is not nearly as simple as it seems."

"Do NOT increase the amounts of chemicals thinking you will increase the reaction rate. The reaction is violent and may splash, causing chemical burns that will make you wish you were dead - but you won't be."

"My experiences are well documented here on SS, so I won't bother repeating them here. Just know that it IS possible to survive, you can be damaged in ways you might not expect and the danger to others is real.

Again, please don't."

And here's another earlier thread on H2S.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/h2s-laundry-detergent-gas-method.89003/

 

[Install-Gentoo]

Ugh... fuck. Now you're making me really reconsider. This sucks, especially since I already have all the materials and am ready to go at any time I choose, and now I see this. Now it feels like I have to start all over. But I really really doubt my ability to get or do some of the more popular things on this forum. Aaaaaaa!!! Damn.
I'll hold on to hope until that @GasMonkey guy can chime in. Some people in this thread said he is really knowledgeable, if he is still around, that is.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

That's why I wish it was more well-known, because of how easy it is and how reliable it is. Too many people choose painful and violent methods and I see people here struggling with getting nembutal or SN due to availability issues.
But alternatively, if it were more well known, the materials would be more restricted. Already, I was surprised that I couldn't find CaS5 in my local hardware store, I could only get it online. Modern fungicide is all copper based, not sulfur.

"Availability" is a big thing for sure. What would be the pretext for buying hydrogen sulfide? How would you explain it? For SN, it's easy: you just killed a deer while hunting, and need to preserve the meat. (Well, at least in the gun-friendly USA.) But what about hydrogen sulfide? It's basically a fart gas. Who would actually need to buy it?

 

[Install-Gentoo]

"Availability" is a big thing for sure. What would be the pretext for buying hydrogen sulfide? How would you explain it? For SN, it's easy: you just killed a deer while hunting, and need to preserve the meat. (Well, at least in the gun-friendly USA.) But what about hydrogen sulfide? It's basically a fart gas. Who would actually need to buy it?

You don't buy the gas itself. You buy calcium polysulfate, which is a fungicide, and you buy hydrochloric acid, which is a cleaning agent. I don't even know if you can buy the gas itself, there's no practical reason to do so.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

You don't buy the gas itself. You buy calcium polysulfate, which is a fungicide, and you buy hydrochloric acid, which is a cleaning agent. I don't even know if you can buy the gas itself, there's no practical reason to do so.

I see. I take it it's best not to buy those two things from the same vendor/supplier, in case they're familiar with chemistry and using it to CTB.

 

[Install-Gentoo]

I see. I take it it's best not to buy those two things from the same vendor/supplier, in case they're familiar with chemistry and using it to CTB.

Yeah, but in my experience I wasn't able to get the two at the same place anyway lol but sure. Hydrochloric acid cleaning solutions should be really easy to find, and the bigger the percentage, the better. Apparently some products used to be like 20 to 30% but the bottles I got were only 11 or 13 something like that.
I had to buy the calcium polysulfate online, unfortunately, and it came in a big 5 gallon jug, way more than enough, I think. When you're searching, I can't stress enough that it needs to be CaS5, calcium polysulfate. CaS will not do, and copper fungicide is absolutely out of the question lol

 

[GasMonkey]

As others have suggested, for this method you would need to isolate youself from the gas until it has reached a certain concentration, task that would require the use of an H₂S detector for sure (otherwise you are doing dangerous guesswork), and the problem is, that H₂S detectors range rarrely goes over 100ppm (and you want to measure 1000ppm!).

This method is not considered peaceful and is unrecommended in the PPeH.

An high IQ Gentoo user would use N₂ for sure.

 

[untouchable305]

Yeah, but in my experience I wasn't able to get the two at the same place anyway lol but sure. Hydrochloric acid cleaning solutions should be really easy to find, and the bigger the percentage, the better. Apparently some products used to be like 20 to 30% but the bottles I got were only 11 or 13 something like that.
I had to buy the calcium polysulfate online, unfortunately, and it came in a big 5 gallon jug, way more than enough, I think. When you're searching, I can't stress enough that it needs to be CaS5, calcium polysulfate. CaS will not do, and copper fungicide is absolutely out of the question lol

Give exact examples of ones to get and highest concentration and how to tell HCL %

I've noticed a bit of a lack of information regarding hydrogen sulfide death. It really seems like the perfect way to go. You die literally instantaneously, and the materials are decently available. I wish more people knew about this though, because people shouldn't have to resort to violent or unreliable methods.
I struggled for a bit with finding the exact right source of sulfur but I have the right materials now.
You need Calcium Polysulfate, which is used as a fungicide, and hydrochloric acid, which is found in Lysol toilet bowl cleaner, although in relatively low concentration.
I'm a little unsure about how much is necessary to die though, but I imagine pouring the stuff into a bucket and then putting your face right in the bucket would be a pretty effective method of exposure.
So... I don't know. Anyone want to chime in on this? Why is it so obscure of a method? I mean sure, it requires the absolute minimal amount of chemistry knowledge but beyond that it's quite simple. In 2008 there were a lot of cases in Japan but other than that, it's barely known about.

How much do u need since it's low concentration?

 

[Install-Gentoo]

Give exact examples of ones to get and highest concentration and how to tell HCL %

How much do u need since it's low concentration?

well from what I know, Lysol brand is the best I could find. It'd usually all be in the "toilet cleaners" section. You can just look around the bottle to see the percentage, it'll probably say around the bottom of the label on the front. If not, you can always check somewhere on the back. Not all products are the same so I can't really help you out there, just have to read a lot I guess.
I have two bottles of around 12 percent HCl, which amounts to just over a liter of liquid, which I think should be enough. of course there's no harm in using more - toilet cleaner is pretty cheap.
And given that I could only find bulk containers of CaS5, you might as well use as much HCl as possible. Lot of sulfur and not so much hydrogen.

so please make sure to get calcium *poly*sulfide. CaS, regular calcium sulfide will not work.

and also this isn't true, regular calcium sulfide will also work. But personally I wasn't able to find any. I'm not a particularly skilled chemist, if I'm to be honest.
if you *really* want the math on the ratios of each chemical to use, I guess I could do the math in the morning. I've been a college dropout for a little while but I could start using my calculator again to help someone out.