Those Not CTB with SN

[Samsal112]

I have come to that point where suicide is not an ideation, but a journey I must take. I was hoping to get some really good ideas from here, but mostly everyone is insistent on SN. I do not care for this option because my disability does not allow me to fast for 12 hours; my blood sugar would get really low causing some health issues. I do not like the idea of needing 2 bottles in case the first does nothing, which would cost a lot of money for something I may not use for a while. Also, I know there are MORE articles about success with this method, but the ones that are not successful are pretty scary. The taste worries me, too. I don't know if that is the reason for vomiting or the fact that you are taking poison. Anyways, people who are not going to opt for SN; what are your plans? Also, share with me why you also do not like the idea of SN?

 

[DeepDespair101]

Hey! I'm not planning to use SN to CTB (although it is a backup for me).

My plans are to IV 1g of isotonitazene and .5g of synthetic heroin. As a now opioid naive individual, this should be more than enough to CTB with little worry of being found or resuscitated.

I don't think benzos are really needed here either given the amount I'm planning to use but the guide recommends it for fentanyl patches. Curious to see what other methods people comment with!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

First, SN is really pretty cheap as far as cost goes. A large bag can be purchased for around $40 - $60, enough to make hundreds of doses. A small amount of the crystals are mixed with water into a glass. Having a second glass prepared is an assurance option. Anti-emetics and fasting, along with some other meds, are recommended to make the carrying out of the procedure easier. Anecdotal stories indicate that people have succeeded using none of the protocol procedure. Everything you read here is anecdotal, unless you happen to know someone personally who actually went through with a CTB and you witnessed it yourself firsthand. SN is not my Plan A. It isn't even my Plan B. I plan on using CO, which is more costly, and frankly, more work to achieve success. Any poisonous method is going to result in the body's forced expelling of the substance it deems to be a danger to itself.

 

[Samsal112]

First, SN is really pretty cheap as far as cost goes. A large bag can be purchased for around $40 - $60, enough to make hundreds of doses. A small amount of the crystals are mixed with water into a glass. Having a second glass prepared is an assurance option. Anti-emetics and fasting, along with some other meds, are recommended to make the carrying out of the procedure easier. Anecdotal stories indicate that people have succeeded using none of the protocol procedure. Everything you read here is anecdotal, unless you happen to know someone personally who actually went through with a CTB and you witnessed it yourself firsthand. SN is not my Plan A. It isn't even my Plan B. I plan on using CO, which is more costly, and frankly, more work to achieve success. Any poisonous method is going to result in the body's forced expelling of the substance it deems to be a danger to itself.

This was a very helpful and informative post. Thank you for that! If you ever want to discuss methods or your knowledge of them, DM me. If not, that is cool too lol

Thank you again for letting me know the cost and freedom of straying from the procedure.

Hey! I'm not planning to use SN to CTB (although it is a backup for me).

My plans are to IV 1g of isotonitazene and .5g of synthetic heroin. As a now opioid naive individual, this should be more than enough to CTB with little worry of being found or resuscitated.

I don't think benzos are really needed here either given the amount I'm planning to use but the guide recommends it for fentanyl patches. Curious to see what other methods people comment with!

I hope this post gets traction. I would love to discuss other methods instead of SN. I considered fentanyl as well

 

[locked*n*loaded]

This was a very helpful and informative post. Thank you for that! If you ever want to discuss methods or your knowledge of them, DM me. If not, that is cool too lol

Thank you again for letting me know the cost and freedom of straying from the procedure.

I think I may have unintentionally exaggerated bit when I said hundreds of doses. It may not be hundreds, but for that money, it is certainly many dozens. I think I did see a bag once that was quite large, that may have given at least a 100 doses for about that much money. Sorry for getting carried away in my description.

 

[Samsal112]

I think I may have unintentionally exaggerated bit when I said hundreds of doses. It may not be hundreds, but for that money, it is certainly many dozens. I think I did see a bag once that was quite large, that may have given at least a 100 doses for about that much money. Sorry for getting carried away in my description.

No worries. I thought I saw where the bottle was nearly 500 dollars, and then I read a post where someone said they should have had two bottles, so I reasoned that was nearly 1000 dollars to possibly not even die. Knowing it is only 60 dollars is more manageable.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I thought I saw where the bottle was nearly 500 dollars

Where was this rip-off place where you saw that? I just saw 500 grams for $50.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

No worries. I thought I saw where the bottle was nearly 500 dollars, and then I read a post where someone said they should have had two bottles, so I reasoned that was nearly 1000 dollars to possibly not even die. Knowing it is only 60 dollars is more manageable.

I know N (Nebutal) is/was 500 a bottle, are you talking about that?

 

[Samsal112]

Where was this rip-off place where you saw that? I just saw 500 grams for $50.

Honestly, I do not remember. Here on this site, I was seeing people saying that they can't afford it, so I am not sure if I saw that amount on Google or by searching on this site. It is now something to think about. I thought it was expensive and you had to fast, but I am concerned about getting it and having it go through customs or whatever, or needing to find out if it is pure.

I know N (Nebutal) is/was 500 a bottle, are you talking about that?

I may have accidentally searched that up. I am not sure. I just did a quick search because it's the only method every talked about on here.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Honestly, I do not remember. Here on this site, I was seeing people saying that they can't afford it, so I am not sure if I saw that amount on Google or by searching on this site. It is now something to think about. I thought it was expensive and you had to fast, but I am concerned about getting it and having it go through customs or whatever, or needing to find out if it is pure.

Well, you know some on here come from some very poor countries and are very poor themselves, so coming up with $40 or $50 for some SN is a Herculean task for them.

Make sure you get ACS/FCC grade, which is high purity.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Honestly, I do not remember. Here on this site, I was seeing people saying that they can't afford it, so I am not sure if I saw that amount on Google or by searching on this site. It is now something to think about. I thought it was expensive and you had to fast, but I am concerned about getting it and having it go through customs or whatever, or needing to find out if it is pure.

I may have accidentally searched that up. I am not sure. I just did a quick search because it's the only method every talked about on here.

N is a liquid barbiturate that's illegal and expensive. SN is a salt used for curing meats, it's legal and pretty cheap.

 

[Samsal112]

N is a liquid barbiturate that's illegal and expensive. SN is a salt used for curing meats, it's legal and pretty cheap.

I knew that people said it tasted salty, but I never knew it was not a liquid lol if it is legal, why are people buying it from a guy named D? Or are you saying it is legal in North America? To be honest, I have never really looked up this method. Dying by poison and possibly throwing up was enough for me to think it wasn't for me. Also, I am afraid of the effects if I live.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

N is a liquid barbiturate that's illegal and expensive.

$500 for a bottle of N would be a pretty good deal. I'd pay it.

 

[Samsal112]

$500 for a bottle of N would be a pretty good deal. I'd pay it.

I would pay it if it is a guaranteed death, but I heard you can't get N. I also heard it is actually peaceful, but again, I don't really look too far into posts about N or SN as I had decided I wasn't going to do that.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I knew that people said it tasted salty, but I never knew it was not a liquid lol if it is legal, why are people buying it from a guy named D? Or are you saying it is legal in North America? To be honest, I have never really looked up this method. Dying by poison and possibly throwing up was enough for me to think it wasn't for me. Also, I am afraid of the effects if I live.

They're not buying SN from a guy named D. D used to sell N (Nembutal). SN is available from various merchants throughout the web. It is legal in many parts of the world, and illegal in some. It is used in the meat-curing industry.

 

[Samsal112]

They're not buying SN from a guy named D. D used to sell N (Nembutal). SN is available from various merchants throughout the web. It is legal in many parts of the world, and illegal in some. It is used in the meat-curing industry.

Oh, gotcha! And N was apparently very peaceful, yes? I could be wrong, but do most people here just keep their bottle of N and not use it? I thought I saw posts of people buying from D but then none of those people actually took it.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I would pay it if it is a guaranteed death, but I heard you can't get N. I also heard it is actually peaceful, but again, I don't really look too far into posts about N or SN as I had decided I wasn't going to do that.

Right. N is unavailable for the time being. Pretty much a guaranteed death and peaceful, though.

In lieu of SN, is there another way you were considering?

Oh, gotcha! And N was apparently very peaceful, yes? I could be wrong, but do most people here just keep their bottle of N and not use it? I thought I saw posts of people buying from D but then none of those people actually took it.

I'm sure that has happened. I have no idea how many people actually purchased N, but I'd say there is a very good number who still have it and never will use it. Most people who contemplate suicide don't actually go through with it, no matter the method.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I knew that people said it tasted salty, but I never knew it was not a liquid lol if it is legal, why are people buying it from a guy named D? Or are you saying it is legal in North America? To be honest, I have never really looked up this method. Dying by poison and possibly throwing up was enough for me to think it wasn't for me. Also, I am afraid of the effects if I live.

N is the stuff in bottles that D sold, but he's gone and you can't buy it anymore. It's not really a poison, more like a strong benzodiazepine. SN is the salty stuff you have to mix with water. Most people don't vomit with N, but vomiting is common with SN.

I bought N from D back when it was available, but before I found this site I was going to hang myself or try and get Fentanyl off the dark web.

 

[Samsal112]

Right. N is unavailable for the time being. Pretty much a guaranteed death and peaceful, though.

In lieu of SN, is there another way you were considering?

I was considering drowning and benzos. I know drowning is not peaceful and the burning of the lungs is supposed to be excruciating pain. Benzos, particularly Ambien, dull the senses and can put someone to sleep easily. I picked this method because I want a guarantee; if you stay in the water long enough, you're going to die. I was against SN for the reasons listed above but also I am reading a post right now from Friday of someone taking sips of SN and that does not sound pleasant whatsoever. That sounds really scary and I am looking, that person has not made another thread so I don't know what happened.

 

[FuneralCry]

It's not like I don't like the idea of SN, of course if I had a choice I would go for N but all of the suicide poisons are inaccessible so none of them are an option. The most easily accessible methods for me are hanging and drowning but yet they both sound so horrific. Hanging sounds especially risky while drowning sounds like it would be difficult to overcome the SI, so sadly I'm still trapped here in this world that I've never wished to exist in. It's tragic how there are no desirable risk free method options available for us and how we have to suffer so much in finding ways to die.

 

[Samsal112]

N is the stuff in bottles that D sold, but he's gone and you can't buy it anymore. It's not really a poison, more like a strong benzodiazepine. SN is the salty stuff you have to mix with water. Most people don't vomit with N, but vomiting is common with SN.

I bought N from D back when it was available, but before I found this site I was going to hang myself or try and get Fentanyl off the dark web.

Do you mind if I ask why you haven't taken the N? I feel so stupid; I wish I would have looked closer at the difference! I have 500 bucks and was on this site when he was still selling it. I didn't bother buying it because I got it confused with SN.

It's not like I don't like the idea of SN, of course if I had a choice I would go for N but all of the suicide poisons are inaccessible so none of them are an option. The most easily accessible methods for me are hanging and drowning but yet they both sound so horrific. Hanging sounds especially risky while drowning sounds like it would be difficult to overcome the SI, so sadly I'm still trapped here in this world that I've never wished to exist in. It's tragic how there are no desirable risk free method options available for us and how we have to suffer so much in finding ways to die.

I am hoping that taking benzos will help the SI when drowning.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Do you mind if I ask why you haven't taken the N? I feel so stupid; I wish I would have looked closer at the difference! I have 500 bucks and was on this site when he was still selling it. I didn't bother buying it because I got it confused with SN.

I bought it knowing I wasn't going to use it immediately. I have an illness that's progressive, and I'm waiting until things get really bad so I can spend more time with my family.

 

[Samsal112]

I bought it knowing I wasn't going to use it immediately. I have an illness that's progressive, and I'm waiting until things get really bad so I can spend more time with my family.

I see. Thank you for responding. Do you just take the N or is there this whole thing like with SN?

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I see. Thank you for responding. Do you just take the N or is there this whole thing like with SN?

You just drink it. You can fast and take anti vomiting meds, but it 's not required. Nebutal is what they give people in the euthanasia clinics.

 

[Samsal112]

Right. N is unavailable for the time being. Pretty much a guaranteed death and peaceful, though.

In lieu of SN, is there another way you were considering?

I'm sure that has happened. I have no idea how many people actually purchased N, but I'd say there is a very good number who still have it and never will use it. Most people who contemplate suicide don't actually go through with it, no matter the method.

I wish I wasn't so damn stupid and actually learned the difference. I have the money to spend on N, but I sure as hell didn't want to spend 1000 on a method that would not work. Living is not an option for me.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I wish I wasn't so damn stupid and actually learned the difference. I have the money to spend on N, but I sure as hell didn't want to spend 1000 on a method that would not work. Living is not an option for me.

D was selling 2 bottles for 750, 500 for one. There's a global shortage right now because of covid and all that, but I have a feeling it will be back at some point.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Hey! I'm not planning to use SN to CTB (although it is a backup for me).

My plans are to IV 1g of isotonitazene and .5g of synthetic heroin. As a now opioid naive individual, this should be more than enough to CTB with little worry of being found or resuscitated.

I don't think benzos are really needed here either given the amount I'm planning to use but the guide recommends it for fentanyl patches. Curious to see what other methods people comment with!

ISO is nothing to play with.

 

[Samsal112]

D was selling 2 bottles for 750, 500 for one. There's a global shortage right now because of covid and all that, but I have a feeling it will be back at some point.

Thank you for telling me that! I really hope it does come back. I did a quick Google search and taking it gives a euphoric feeling; what a great way to die.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

D was selling 2 bottles for 750, 500 for one.

That must have been quite some time back. I think near the end, his prices had risen considerably.

 

[MuteIsland]

Poisoning myself has never appealed to me really. not just with SN. im mostly worried about vomiting it up or freaking out and calling an ambulance and having my stomach pumped.
when i go out, im likely going to use a gun, as once you gather the will to pull the trigger, you cant exactly go back on that.