This site being mentioned in a coroner's report.

[a.n.kirillov]

Interesting how they use the word "normalized" with a negative connotation; while in psychology this is usually viewed as a positive thing: to know that your reaction to overwhelming emotions or circumstances is normal and there's no shame in feeling suicidal.

O well! the deep dark unregulated abyss of the mother of all evils, the internet, is to blame again, as always; not the teachers, friends, family members who didn't even notice that a person they supposedly cared so much for was under so much pressure for such a long time that they saw no other way out than killing themselves.

Edit: "We couldn't work out why our gorgeous, adorable future-looking Molly did this". See the irony? Maybe your daughter needed to talk to people who could relate to her. I'm not trying to blame the parents or anyone in particular; but to be able to talk to people who understand without the risk of getting sectioned and drugged by authorities; isn't that understandable ?

 

[Seagirl]

Why they don't put the same effort to prevent somebody killing another one that doesn't want to die instead to stop those who want to die by hurting only themselves?!

 

[TrailerTrash]

Guess no one who reported this cared/cares to recognize that she's now in peace from an existence the didn't want. She was 24 not 14 .... why can't she make a choice? Where would the article be posted if she'd chosen to marry an ass and was in an abusive relationship .... where would the article be about how hard it was for her to succeed and/or just exist in a world that could care less about her deficits and more about getting her in bed, making fun of her, or just marginalizing her as a less--than contributor due to her mental and/or social challenges. Where was/is her right to a dignified existence here or in the beyond. Just venting .....

 

[Polly]

I just made the SN guide from Stan into a Word and PDF document just in case anything happens here.

Great idea. How did you do that?

I myself worry about the security of the site all the time.

 

[Defenestrator]

Great idea. How did you do that?

I myself worry about the security of the site all the time.

Click print and then there will be a pop up, in the drop down menu for printer selection there is an option to save it as pdf.

 

[Taylored]

Just a friendly reminder to use the Tor browser. And wipe all your data when you do what you do.

 

[purplemoon]

I seriously hate this 'pro-suicide' thought of others outside of here. The number of people here that have changed their minds, or outright wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for this site (even if they still do it later) is so great it's shocking. People here can at least be honest, and not fear anything they say.

People have been killing themselves for years, only difference here is, we don't judge people who want to.

Exactly! Every individual and their circumstances, with their personality, resources or lack there of, combine unpredictably for a result. If they recover or want to try, so be it. If they tried and it still is too much to bear, so be it.

Either way, it is THEIR CHOICE whether they continue or not.

Plus, if my physical (& invisible) pain alone is enough to ctb for years, and I finally do it... Who the h*ll are they to decide for me how much pain equals go ahead and leave my suffering body... ONLY I KNOW how much pain I'm in... not them.

Why should another person ever be allowed to dictate to you, to me, to anyone... when we are 'allowed' to die? It's my life to live and endure, and no single formula can ever be created for everyone.

 

[Avicii]

It's already blocked on my phone providers 4g, I can only access from my home wifi.

i said this ages ago and everyone said i was talking rubbish, 4g it just goes to load and then doesent
This sounds like the user Xnax, she documented her struggles using the CO method it didnt work twice I believe and then on her third attempt her final post involved saying a little prayer just in case

 

[Defenestrator]

i said this ages ago and everyone said i was talking rubbish, 4g it just goes to load and then doesent
This sounds like the user Xnax, she documented her struggles using the CO method it didnt work twice I believe and then on her third attempt her final post involved saying a little prayer just in case

Interesting! I've not tried to access it on 4g yet so maybe there is something to that.

 

[Despondent]

How do we know it's about this site if they're not revealing the name?

 

[Defenestrator]

How do we know it's about this site if they're not revealing the name?

If you open the link and scroll down, she mentions it exactly by name.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Ignorant people who think that they have the right to make decisions about other people's lives. They think that their joy of life is the lack of others. They refuse to rationalize the ending of a person's own existence. Once upon a time, they was cursing and burying people on the road who committed suicide. We are living with modern versions of these crazy people.

 

[Polly]

The one set of grief stricken parents are lashing out.

Tragedy, and losing your teen daughter to death is tragic, makes parents say and do whatever they can to stagger through the grief. And the parental guilt.

Later, they will be able to ask themselves the harder questions:
Why did we let our 14 year old use 18+ websites?
Why did we allow her to deliberately misrepresent her age online?
Why didn't we listen to her? Where were we?
(Notice, I didn't say "talk", but "listen")

Right now, it's easier to find a scapegoat. Sadly, 18+ pro choice communities are easy prey.

Tips:
Assume our data is being "scraped".

Assume that other community members are underage liars, until you know otherwise.

Delete history/Restore factory settings on devices at "important"moments.

I'm using an incognito window. Does that provide any help?

 

[Broken Chimera]

I'm using an incognito window. Does that provide any help?

It helps to not save anything in your browser, but if you're using Chrome Google has it. Your Internet Provider probably keeps a record too. It's better than nothing though.

 

[Deleted member 1768]

The same reason why these strangers, who are usually men, tell me I can't have an abortion.

Huh...with me women are the selfish, unthinking morass of those most concerned with 'pro-life' issues, not men. Interesting.

Thanks for this. Look for more pro lifers trying to get us. Due diligence people.

Wow! She was incorrectly assessed but the competency of those, 'mental health workers', has not even been questioned, It should be evident that the system is failing to help those who seek assistance. Unbelievable.

 

[TheOA]

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Callie-Lewis-2019-0414_Redacted.pdf

This is from the UK. I found it totally by accident and I could not find much about this young woman, only one local paper briefly mentioning her being missing.

Not cool!!!

 

[Jean4]

Huh...with me women are the selfish, unthinking morass of those most concerned with 'pro-life' issues, not men. Interesting.

Wow! She was incorrectly assessed but the competency of those, 'mental health workers', has not even been questioned, It should be evident that the system is failing to help those who seek assistance. Unbelievable.

I am American. The Republicans are primarily male. ;)

 

[NextBusLeaving]

They are coming after us all. Won't be long 'til they subpoena membership records. Then it'll be door to door. When they come for my SN they will get it open-end of the bag first. Maybe take a few out by accidental inhalation.

That, or we all kill ourselves to avoid a trial...

/s /tongueincheek

 

[Defenestrator]

They are coming after us all. Won't be long 'til they subpoena membership records. Then it'll be door to door. When they come for my SN they will get it open-end of the bag first. Maybe take a few out by accidental inhalation.

That, or we all kill ourselves to avoid a trial...

/s /tongueincheek

In this case it's the UK and I can assure you, they won't bother. They'll just try to get the site blocked through your average browser - so we'll need VPN's to find it. The traffic to the site would reduce considerably.

 

[Deleted member 1768]

SS is on Tor.

 

[cowbain]

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Callie-Lewis-2019-0414_Redacted.pdf

This is from the UK. I found it totally by accident and I could not find much about this young woman, only one local paper briefly mentioning her being missing.

It makes no sense. They don't bother to mention all of the stories everyone shares here. This site is so much more than the false "hahaha here's brutal ways to die, *please* go do it" narrative that they're trying to spread. This site actually provides valuable information to gain insight about mental health, suicide prevention, and many more topics. But no, they'd rather tear it down. Also, "MY Molly" wow these parents give off major narc vibes...

 

[Innereye]

how much these people would shatter if they got a taste of what our lives were like. "Pro suicide" Im anti-torture

 

[Jean4]

how much these people would shatter if they got a taste of what our lives were like. "Pro suicide" Im anti-torture

I do like that. I am anti-torture. So true.

 

[Egddios]

This government definitely has a boner for despair! No exit allowed!

a boner for despair, ah - i needed that. It's true and thank you for making me laugh.

 

[Crushed_Innocence]

I'm glad she made it out. Fuck these people trying to prevent the goddamned inevitable.

Fuck prolifers. If someone wants to die let it die and mind your own business

amen

 

[strained03]

I get so scared for this site all the time. :( last time it was down for a few I panicked so bad. When I ctb one of my priorities is eliminating ANY record off anything through all the years to keep all the lovelies here safe.

Ugh how do we keep the site safe, I actually almost made a thread about it. I guess I shouldn't be so dependent on a forum but it kept my sanity (I lurked without an account for a long time before making one!) and I feel a smidge less of the pain from the loneliness because you are all such wonderful people :/ <3

I'm not sure you can delete your messages here.

 

[purplemoon]

Huh...with me women are the selfish, unthinking morass of those most concerned with 'pro-life' issues, not men. Interesting.

Wow! She was incorrectly assessed but the competency of those, 'mental health workers', has not even been questioned, It should be evident that the system is failing to help those who seek assistance. Unbelievable.

Fyi: My response to your insight became so lengthy I decided to create a separate thread for it here in a minute. But just to help get things started…


Yes, and their "help" system has Failed with HUGE amounts of people trying all their formulas of nonsense, then if after years of giving their system a fair and genuine chance, and the person is still depressed, anxious, etc they have the AUDACITY to rudely BLAME the VICTIM of not getting 'better' and tell them 'well you should just try again/ work even harder' at getting 'better'.

The whole time these brainwashed people who cannot face truth and reality, are so UNREALISTIC that they continue to blame the VICTIM for having a NORMAL REACTION to a TOXIC ENVIRONMENT & BRUTAL SOCIETY that puts nearly continuous pressure on so many people, not only with never-ending financial issues & sky rocketing rents, but also exponentially increasing VIOLENCE, bullying by coworkers, shocking levels of absolute rudeness & selfishness, people utterly disrespectful of your minimum safety on the roads more than ever before, people being used & abandoned, children being kidnapped by the ever increasing rise of child molestors /sexual assaults that permanently traumatize both adults & children... with a constantly UNPREDICTABLE ENVIRONMENT for most people, every time they step outside their front door.

Especially in the USA, the levels of cruelty in so many survival areas of life are more out of control than ever. Too many people have become either so traumatized or so aggressive that many just finally snap and either lash out exploding or begin to fall apart into severe depression and isolation out of NATURAL DESIGN... which is NOT a "MENTAL DISORDER".

With very few exceptions (like organic brain schizophrenia with hallucinations) do most people who are just receiving a LABEL put on their REACTION to these UNNATURAL and EXHAUSTING CIRCUMSTANCES, with all levels of abuse by both individuals and society, actually have a so-called 'mental problem'. One of my university degrees that I got early on with psychology, and while at first I partially bought into their ideology, as I learned more I realized just how subject of their psychology science is, their fluctuating definitions of what a disorder is become outrageously ridiculous.

For example, if you don't believe in their system, that itself is supposedly a 'disorder' too. (*eyes rolling*) This is a system made up by humans who decided what is 'normal' and most of them make good money off of it. Some decent people are in that field, but there are so many that just are in it for easy money, telling people to journal and do you deep breathing exercises and take these trucks that alter your brain chemistry. It's like an experiment with synthetic chemicals but they call it "medical care" or "medication".

When the person, including myself over the years, tries all different sorts of pills, but they called medicine, it does all sorts of damaging things over time to the liver, kidneys, and often the brain itself. they are told that this is a potential solution to your disorder, to take a pill made by humans, and dad they can just keep trying different medications to see how each one works but maybe this one will work better, etc. I've taken all different kinds of meds over the years and, sure some of them would help me just relax, like amitriptyline or Valium, but then it would also tell the brain to stop making it so natural supply which creates withdrawals, because It's not natural. It temporarily provides some relief, but at a cost to your health & brain chemistry over time.

You're much better off taking only natural neurotransmitters like GABA, or others like magnesium, melatonin, and while they may not be as sedating, they're at least safer. there was a lady I met a few years ago that suffered with depression, and went to a natural path who basically gave her an injection IV of power for B vitamin, and within a week she started feeling much better because everything was so out of balance and depleted. Our foods have tons of sugar, which the body doesn't understand and isn't able to process well, combined with a traumatizing environment & unnatural pressures.

Like with PTSD, which i and many on here have, these shrinks and naive people who blindly believe/accept this is dangerous idea of LABELING NATURAL REACTIONS, you're told that you just have a 'mental disorder' when in fact that's equivalent in reality to them telling you that your reflex in your knee is a disorder, or when you sneeze as your body is trying to get out test or a virus that it's a disorder, all of these natural reactions that we were born with somehow become a so-called disorder that they need to 'treat'. What they really need to treat is this damn horrifyingly cruel environment, nearly impossible financial system with credit scores bullsh*t that harm innocent people struggling with low pay, and the violent scum that attacks people.

Have their always being these types of people? Of course there has, But the problem now is that giant percentages of the population around us are constantly unpredictable, many other people are being victimized more than ever on MULTIPLE LEVELS, and then society is told the insulting line "that's just the way it is"... Well, the 'way it is' is slowly torturing us!!

these psychology people and the naïve people that are brainwashed completely by them, act like if you're not perfectly happy then you must have a disorder. They never take in consideration what you have experienced that is different from what they have experienced, maybe you don't have a supportive family, or maybe you are a victim of abuse and domestic violence, or that your financial reality is different than theirs, so when you have REACTIONS to TRAUMATIC EVENTS, but they don't have a similar experience, they treat you like you need help, or 'why don't you just go get counseling'?

For me and it seems so many on here, it's like, yes I've already gotten counseling! or this is WITH/AFTER counseling, and it DOES NOT WORK or HELP. The VICTIM is NOT the PROBLEM, the DAMAGING ENVIRONMENT is the PROBLEM.

FIX the ENVIRONMENT and people won't have all of this depression and anxiety, in the first place. Stop allowing people to abuse their children and their significant other. Instead of blaming the victim. Hell, if anything, it's the ABUSERS who should get freaking 'counseling' if anyone does.

I was always the skeptic in my first undergraduate (psychology) degree, and remember my professors sometimes making comments like you shouldn't question the system of 'care' already established, or why are you always questioning the legitimacy of the DSM book of disorders? I started reading even more then class assignments, studying more, researching more. I pretty much got straight A's in all of my psychology classes, but I started to see through the veil of illusion very early on. I still tried counseling, medications, and truly gave the most genuine effort, but it still did not 'cure' me or all of the other people/patients/customers whatever you want to call them. whatever you do, unless you're having physical hallucinations, please don't let these other humans that created a system called psychology that makes you feel bad about yourself.

Please don't let their labels thrown on you to make you doubt yourself, or to tell yourself that there's just 'something wrong with you'. They are not 'experts' any more than the 'doctors' in the 1800's did Blood-Letting (lancing you then bleeding out) to 'cure' people according to their faulty BELIEF that it would 'help'. (many died instead from their 'medical treatment) Wow.

Chances are in all likelihood, you don't even have a so-called disorder, you're EXPERIENCING NATURE'S DESIGN under stress, natural reactions under huge amount of pressure... which is NOT "MENTAL".

EMOTIONS are designed by nature, emotions/feelings are what we are BORN WITH ... they tell us something is wrong in our environment and/or the abusive person around us is not safe to be around.

Please step back pro-lifers, and actually make a REAL EFFORT to STOP, THINK, and MOST IMPORTANTLY... LISTEN TO US.

The same theme i have noticed in probably around 90% of people on here have similar undertones of "i cannot do this anymore" or "we cannot survive this level of cruelty/stress"... that's NOT a 'mental problem' AT ALL!! It's a CLEAR SYMPTOM of INTOLERABLE LEVELS of STRESS CREATED by TOXIC & DAMAGING circumstances!

People cannot just keep living with a never-ending pressures on top of previous damage with almost no support, no relief, no escape without the nervous system breaking down.

It's like Driving a car when it's engine has become depleted of oil and finally just breaks down, without what it needs it cannot run properly. But there's not something inherently defective with the car, it just was not treated properly. Deprive people of their basic needs of feeling safe, relaxed, and valued/respected, and watch them either fall apart or explode from the pressure.

People NEED to be more decent and kind to each other, people NEED to feel generally safe, people NEED to know they won't become homeless in terrifying situations just because of unexpected job loss, people NEED their own government they pay taxes to actually be there in return in a financial emergency, people NEED real friends and loving spouses they can trust. ALL of these NEEDS are NOT "MENTAL DISORDERS" my friends... and please be kinder to yourself knowing there isn't something 'wrong' with you if/when you react to the Loss or deprivation of any of these basic needs being met. Your tears, your rage, your panic, your exhaustion, your suffering is YOUR NATURAL RIGHT expressing that this life is hurting you and YOU DESERVE BETTER...

WE DESERVE BETTER.

 

[RainAndSadness]

Hilarious. The website claims:

Callie was using an online suicideforum, sanctionedsuicide.net(the forum now appears under the internet addresssanctionedsuicide.com).Through the forum she was able toengage in discussions with other pro-suicide members andobtain advice how to mislead mental health professionals to avoid being sectioned under the Mental Health Act and also howto perfect the methods of taking her life that she had been considering. She was enabled bythe advice provided throughthe forum to frustrate a mental health assessment and thereafter take her life.

In other words: "I don't like that consenting adults make their own decisions for their life and I think it's totally fine to lock up people who consider suicide in mental institutions because I'm inherently authoritarian and I believe to know better what's good for other people because I'm the center of the universe and it's all about me, me, ME. Me. Me. ME. What I want is more important than anything else. Me."

 

[purplemoon]

Hilarious. The website claims:



In other words: "I don't like that consenting adults make their own decisions for their life and I think it's totally fine to lock up people who consider suicide in mental institutions because I'm inherently authoritarian and I believe to know better what's good for other people because I'm the center of the universe and it's all about me, me, ME. Me. Me. ME. What I want is more important than anything else. Me."

YOU.COMPLETELY.CALLED.IT...

Utterly Fantastic.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Just a friendly reminder to use the Tor browser. And wipe all your data when you do what you do.

I never would've used this site if it weren't accessible via tor.