This ICE shit is no joke.

[CatAstro.Fee]

I was thinking about being homeless for a long time and now I don't even think I can be HOMELESS because of these motherfuckers hurting anybody that's brown. Fuck these people now

I think all the people who think something really bad is going on in the US, Americans or otherwise, just forget its history. The US is inherently unstable. As all heterogenous, stitched-together countries are. E Pluribus Unum is a slogan not reality. So, the US has always gone nuts every 30-40 years. Great Depression, McCarthyism, Civil War, Civil Rights movement, Counter-culture and Vietnam - so many examples.
People think US is a safe and peaceful place only for 2 reasons: Relativism. Much worse happens in some other countries. For example, the Stalinist purges came about the tail end of the Depression. And in the interregna between these fun periods, the industrialized US economy invariably has boomed and that benefited the whole of society.
I have lived right next to some of these depressed areas, where people feel left behind, once the stable assembly-line jobs of the 1950s boom evaporated. Under the right conditions, people were always ready to explode like now... it only needed the current coterie to turn up. The undercurrent was always there.
Anyone who's travelled the length of I-90 or I-10, 20-25 years ago, station-hopping on their car radio, knew there were 2 incompatible Americas and that such a time as the present would soon come. Given America does not have power to fix itself, I doubt if it will exist 20-30 years from now.

I agree, it's always been an illusion, a terroristic empire that leeches of other countries and kills for money, conquering land, and it's own people. I'll be glad when it doesn't exist, I'll only look for our own when it's time because we need to take back the power and give the land back to the indigenous.

 

[turtle2]

You know it's serious where people are discussing it here of all places.

 

[peacefulnights]

The world is going to shit and Gen Z is getting fucked from all sides too (economically, generationally, etc etc). As someone who grew up in a neglectful household and going to college when this happens it just seems predestined it feels somewhat normal to strongly consider and soon attempt to CTB.

CTB rate is up 50% from the highest peak in the last 25 years for 18-24 year olds and is similar for 25+ right now too. Rather leave with my dignity in tact than be a slave to whatever fucking happens next.

Wishing peace and love to my fellow SS members <3

 

[Dejected 55]

I have been saying for a while now that even if I didn't have personal problems that are destroying me... if tomorrow I woke up and was able to conquer all my demons... the world around me is so horrible and disappointing that I have no reason to want to be part of that. Hell, a mentally healthy me might be even more miserable in this world because there would be nothing to distract me from all the horrors.

 

[denali]

i am not an American citizen and I have traveled extensively around the world. Believe me, a large part of the globe would love to live in a country like the USA. You're probably privileged to be saying such nonsense. It doesn't matter, that's my point of view based on my travel experience. I will not argue further.

have also noticed this in my travels. also just here in america most hospital workers / taxi uber drivers / cleaning people / construction workers are immigrants I think they have a positive impact on america but none the less people from other countries would do anything to move to america. Here we have a justice system that works (your gonna hate this but its true look at most countries in africa mexico central america etc) where you can just bribe police officers or the judge people here actually get a fair chance you think the wealth disparity is bad here travel to yemen nigeria or somalia

 

[raybd]

have also noticed this in my travels. also just here in america most hospital workers / taxi uber drivers / cleaning people / construction workers are immigrants I think they have a positive impact on america but none the less people from other countries would do anything to move to america. Here we have a justice system that works (your gonna hate this but its true look at most countries in africa mexico central america etc) where you can just bribe police officers or the judge people here actually get a fair chance you think the wealth disparity is bad here travel to yemen nigeria or somalia

Lived long enough and traveled widely enough in the world and in the US - particularly in what's derisively called flyover country.
My well-founded impression is that the quality of life in the US has declined greatly in the last 3 decades. I can think of at least 20 countries which give a better quality of life on average. And, the US is busily going in the wrong direction.
Anywhere that's not hell is a good place to move to, if you are from Somalia or the war-torn places of Yemen. That is no meaningful comparison. People from third world countries want to move to the west, mainly to the US. But, is the US such a good deal today, that, say, the average Frenchman or Luxembourger dreams every night of moving to it? Can you interest a well educated and well-off Tokyo professional - say a doctor or engineer or architect to move to the US just like that? Those days are gone - 60 years ago may be.
The justice system works in the US? With this kind of Supreme court? Which doesn't even pretend anymore? The Supreme court has been led by a conservative from almost Truman's time. And largely has had a conservative majority for 50 years. But, it didn't start looking openly partisan until the Gore-Bush fight. By now, it is a lost cause. Think Kavanaugh has a straight bone in his body? Or that Clarence Thomas has ever heard of the word honesty? Actually, there are a number of conservative-leaning jurists who would still decide cases impartially. Somehow, Mitch McConnel and the White House nominating squad never heard of them. Not that I like the 3 liberal judges either. Shrill on the wrong things. I can think of a number of third world countries where surprisingly, the supreme court is non-partisan. The corruption is mostly confined to the lowest courts - like you could bribe away a hit-and-run you were in - which you cannot brazenly do in the US (you could lean on the cops to go slow or the DA to look away though - and some famous names have done that).
If you are today's Gibbon, you better start writing "The Decline and Fall of the American Empire"

 

[denali]

Lived long enough and traveled widely enough in the world and in the US - particularly in what's derisively called flyover country.
My well-founded impression is that the quality of life in the US has declined greatly in the last 3 decades. I can think of at least 20 countries which give a better quality of life on average. And, the US is busily going in the wrong direction.
Anywhere that's not hell is a good place to move to, if you are from Somalia or the war-torn places of Yemen. That is no meaningful comparison. People from third world countries want to move to the west, mainly to the US. But, is the US such a good deal today, that, say, the average Frenchman or Luxembourger dreams every night of moving to it? Can you interest a well educated and well-off Tokyo professional - say a doctor or engineer or architect to move to the US just like that? Those days are gone - 60 years ago may be.
The justice system works in the US? With this kind of Supreme court? Which doesn't even pretend anymore? The Supreme court has been led by a conservative from almost Truman's time. And largely has had a conservative majority for 50 years. But, it didn't start looking openly partisan until the Gore-Bush fight. By now, it is a lost cause. Think Kavanaugh has a straight bone in his body? Or that Clarence Thomas has ever heard of the word honesty? Actually, there are a number of conservative-leaning jurists who would still decide cases impartially. Somehow, Mitch McConnel and the White House nominating squad never heard of them. Not that I like the 3 liberal judges either. Shrill on the wrong things. I can think of a number of third world countries where surprisingly, the supreme court is non-partisan. The corruption is mostly confined to the lowest courts - like you could bribe away a hit-and-run you were in - which you cannot brazenly do in the US (you could lean on the cops to go slow or the DA to look away though - and some famous names have done that).
If you are today's Gibbon, you better start writing "The Decline and Fall of the American Empire"

so one not a republican not saying i like the current political climate of the US. I would love to move to europe if i had the chance theres tons of countries there that have a higher quality of life than us and better skiing and mountaineering haha its been my dream since i was a kid to live in chamonix. However saying the justice system is fucked because you dont agree with who is currently in power seems a little childish to me I believe the reason America is great and we should hold it to high standards is because we can vote representitives into power do i agree with trump no i think hes an idiot but he is the first republican to win the popular vote since bush in 04 and we have to admit althoug we disagree with it impartially he did win and those judges were elected the second we set the standard that we can just evict anyone we want from any seat of power because we believe they are impartial who do you think is gonna abuse that more dems or republicans we have to live with the current state of our country and hope it can redeem itself also i think america and been pretty shit off politically for the last hundred years not 60 and somehow its better than most 3rd world countries and has more infastructure to support a growing immigrant population than most other western countries we would view as better than us.

 

[capi]

I remember when trump was elected all the disgustingly performative leftists kept spewing how we shouldnt be afraid or scared and while he does suck we can get through it. I never thought i would be so mad at my own party's privilege! Someone got shot because trump was elected!

 

[peacefulnights]

I will die with dignity. I will die having lived a mostly dignified life. I will have no part in these violent and brutal times that we are now entering. I will not be living in fear and uncertainty and I will not sit here and continue living a life where my baseline state is one of terror. I have multiple fake percocets that I have tested and confirmed contain fentanyl. I'm afraid to go and I hate to leave my family grieving in my absence, but I'm terrified and trapped by economic circumstance. The country that we come out of 2026 with will be completely unrecognizable from the one we entered into it with in the worst way possible. I don't know when to take the pills, but every day I push it back I simultaneously watch the tsunami approach closer and closer. I would rather die peacefully than drown in it.

I feel this heavy. My you find the peace you are looking for, am CTBing for basically 1/1 reasons.

 

[RichardFirst]

I really don't understand why people who don't want to be here would care about contemporary politics. Trump, just like just about every politician in the West is in the game to enrich himself. FFS, in his first weeks in office, he and his wife released s**t coin crypto scams to make money off gullible people who don't know any better. The states we live under are rotting to the core, and its bi-partisan. Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, is worth hundreds of millions made from insider trading.

Voting is theatre.

 

[LetMeOut67]

President Miller is probably jealous of Hitler's killscore and immense historical notoriety.
There's nothing at all that these people won't do. I'd be very happy to be proven wrong about where all this is heading.

It feels like all the hate anger and disappointment with modern existence is only going to be satiated by a f*cking huge bloodbath.

Our species is truly awful