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SadLoser

SadLoser

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Jul 31, 2021
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I feel like i'm being destroyed mentally. She showed me so much affection at the start, she was so nice to me, so loving. She's the first person I had unpaid sex with in my mid 20s. For the first time someone cared about me. For the first time I felt worthy. I felt like I belonged, like I was normal. And it was all ripped away from me in almost an instant. I thought she'd be my first gf, but nope, threw me in the trash like every single one before her.

She messaged the group chat and it sounded like she was coming home from a date. I immediately felt intense panic and just a lack of will to do anything.
I ran over to her house and crept in the shadows to see her getting out of the taxi, to see if she's with someone. I already checked if her car was there 3 times today. By the time I got there the light was already on so I was too slow to see her arriving and going inside.

I am completely broken. I cannot cope with this mentally. It's eating away at me each day. I want it to stop. This pain, this anxiety, this feeling of worthlessness. Why won't anybody love me? I don't know where or how to meet anyone else anymore. Most of my friends have careers now, they're busy, I don't know where to go to try and meet women.
Why does every girl that shows interest in me lose it so quickly?
Why can't I just find one special person? I hate this so, so much. Why was I born.
 
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here_for_now

is this by design?
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Hey brother just want to say, i'm very sorry your feeling this pain. I get it though 100% in a similar way. I never had sex that wasn't paid for. Never had a kiss, never had a relationship. Never held a woman's hands that wasn't my mothers or grandma

As for advice, i'm not really the best person to ask. I just abused a lot of drugs in the past to cope.

Just want to be that brother in solidarity with you and if you need to chat with someone, my door is always open friend.
 
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SadLoser

SadLoser

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Hey brother just want to say, i'm very sorry your feeling this pain. I get it though 100% in a similar way. I never had sex that wasn't paid for. Never had a kiss, never had a relationship. Never held a woman's hands that wasn't my mothers or grandma

As for advice, i'm not really the best person to ask. I just abused a lot of drugs in the past to cope.

Just want to be that brother in solidarity with you and if you need to chat with someone, my door is always open friend.
Thank you. Yeah before a few months ago I never experienced any of it. Few kisses at nightclubs, few failed dates. This is the longest it has ever lasted. It went on for weeks. After a lifetime of loneliness it felt absolutely magical. To have a woman in your arms, kissing you. Oh I can't put into words how awesome I felt. and now it's all gone and likely i'll never get it again. It's just so unfair. Sorry you're going through it too.
 
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SadLoser

SadLoser

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Damn. Getting out of bed is so difficult.
 
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bpdwriter

bpdwriter

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Jul 23, 2025
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Late to the thread, but I have bpd and your post reminded me so much of what it's like lose my favorite person (it's a whole psych mess).

It's definitely hard and i think when we don't have as many experiences to reference our brain flies into "they're the one" mode and so losing them is not only the person but all the hopes and dreams we had for them.

Sadly, I think that's the unfairness of life and love. Being in love is putting ur heart out there and hoping it doesn't shatter and some people are inevitably not going to take care of that.

On the losing interest part, while it's definitely not your fault generally, there might be things that she or others noticed that put them off a bit. Like when you showed up to her house for hours, even if she doesn't see you, it shows that there might be some things you're likely to do that would make people feel unsafe.

By no means am I judging; I digitally stalked my ex for a while. I also know that during our relationship i probably came off as too intense...

My heart goes out to you though and hope each day gets a little easier
 
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I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
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I ran over to her house and crept in the shadows to see her getting out of the taxi, to see if she's with someone. I already checked if her car was there 3 times today. By the time I got there the light was already on so I was too slow to see her arriving and going inside.
This is absolutely NOT appropriate behavior. You should never be creeping in the shadows to spy on someone's activity at home. Driving by their house multiple times per day to look for their car is obsessive behavior. You need to get some help.
 
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mirror_mercury

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Aug 25, 2025
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maybe you're not compatible, and you need to find someone else

maybe she intentionally threw you away, just to see how much you'll improve in her absence

that is not to say, you should immediately take action

go and fester, or perhaps start fermenting

rotting or fermenting, they're both forms of decay

but it's up to you to decide which path to take
 
fallendevil

fallendevil

Horrible Woman
Oct 6, 2024
779
I feel like the people you're with can sense that you have anxious attachment and it turns them off from you. You'd think that this is pseudoscience but when you're anxiously attached it's really hard to hide it if you're not actively trying and you may have accidentally love bombed her or said something off putting that made her go "wtf."

I've lost interest in people for this reason and people have also lost interest in me for this and vice versa. You aren't in the right mental state to be in a relationship. Work on living for yourself and the huzz will follow.

Rejection is a normal part of this hellish existence, I also thought many people were the "one" but love is literally just a bunch of chemicals and the marriages that last have accepted this and are only with each other for stability and having a family.
This is absolutely NOT appropriate behavior. You should never be creeping in the shadows to spy on someone's activity at home. Driving by their house multiple times per day to look for their car is obsessive behavior. You need to get some help.
This. She probably knows that you're actively waiting for her and has a gut feeling and it's creeping her out and she just wants space. Perhaps she's not even looking for anyone else or dating others and is just avoiding you bc she's scared for her life lol.
 
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Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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The stalking, following, hanging around her house in the shadows, etc... all that is bad behavior. You need to cut that stuff out. It's scary for her and it isn't healthy for you.

It's one thing to sit at home and pine over someone, even to check their public social media... but when you are trying to be physically near them and hiding in the shadows to check up on them... it's beyond creepy and wrong at that point no matter how you slice it.

On the anxious attachment thing... I'm always confused when people say that if you "love too much" or are "too open" or whatever you come across as anxious and needy and nobody wants that. Okay... but how come people who behave as if they don't give a shit about someone are seen as more attractive? That confuses me. If the argument is current behavior is a sign of future behavior and the fear is too needy now = too needy later... then why isn't "doesn't give a fuck" not equated to "will not give a fuck" later?

I see men and women say they don't want someone who tries to hard or is too needy... but they will happily go along with someone who treats them indifferently and then act surprised later when the person doesn't really care about them.

I don't understand why the Nostradamus predictors people claim they have in sensing whether you are good or bad doesn't work consistently.

Toss out the anxious guys and the fuck-it-all guys... and there's a whole bunch of men and women right in the middle who show up for you and aren't needy but show you they care consistently, and these folks are labeled boring and ignored by and large. What the heck? I would think those middle ground people ought to be what you want?

Admittedly I'm more in the anxious crowd, so it wouldn't help my chances... but I don't see the people who seem the most stable to be finding each other either. It's weird to me... and there's nothing to really aim for when the rules don't make sense.

But circling back... the stalky stuff really needs to go.
 
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DirtCommie

DirtCommie

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Aug 22, 2025
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maybe you're not compatible, and you need to find someone else

maybe she intentionally threw you away, just to see how much you'll improve in her absence

that is not to say, you should immediately take action

go and fester, or perhaps start fermenting

rotting or fermenting, they're both forms of decay

but it's up to you to decide which path to take
Dont agree. If someone wants to leave you cause they know youll do better without them they will DEFINITELY tell you. Or at least signal as to how you would do better without them (maybe theyll introduce you to a friend of theirs who is a better match for you than them and theyll just leave you two to do you thing wink wink) They will tell you 'Oh I cheat a lot so youre not gonna wanna be with me' or theyll say ' Oh Im very psychologically hurt right now and I am not trying to hurt those around me. Go off on your own. YOull do mlbetter without me' . Or maybe theyll tell you that you two arent compatible, maybe youre looking for an open relationship and theyre very monogamous.

Why would they not tel you? They see the potential in you and they seek your happiness. so now they want YOU to see the potential in YOU too.

This concept of ghosting someone for their own'good' will never make sense to me. You ghosting someone doesnt do any good , cause 1. youre not telling them why youre ghosting them (did I do something wrong? Did you do something wrong? DId someone I know do something wrong to you that makes you not want to communicate with me? Wot Appened?!) and 2. they break y9ur heart without telling you why theyre breaking your heart. Therefore we can conclude that ghosting someone is ALWAYS a malicious act.

Ive never had a partner before but every time Ive told a friend that I domt want to communicate with them anymore I told them why. We would just stop talking amicably. We must normalize amicably ended friendships and relarionships cause whaterver we got going on right now? THis aint it.
 
DirtCommie

DirtCommie

Student
Aug 22, 2025
108
The stalking, following, hanging around her house in the shadows, etc... all that is bad behavior. You need to cut that stuff out. It's scary for her and it isn't healthy for you.

It's one thing to sit at home and pine over someone, even to check their public social media... but when you are trying to be physically near them and hiding in the shadows to check up on them... it's beyond creepy and wrong at that point no matter how you slice it.

On the anxious attachment thing... I'm always confused when people say that if you "love too much" or are "too open" or whatever you come across as anxious and needy and nobody wants that. Okay... but how come people who behave as if they don't give a shit about someone are seen as more attractive? That confuses me. If the argument is current behavior is a sign of future behavior and the fear is too needy now = too needy later... then why isn't "doesn't give a fuck" not equated to "will not give a fuck" later?

I see men and women say they don't want someone who tries to hard or is too needy... but they will happily go along with someone who treats them indifferently and then act surprised later when the person doesn't really care about them.

I don't understand why the Nostradamus predictors people claim they have in sensing whether you are good or bad doesn't work consistently.

Toss out the anxious guys and the fuck-it-all guys... and there's a whole bunch of men and women right in the middle who show up for you and aren't needy but show you they care consistently, and these folks are labeled boring and ignored by and large. What the heck? I would think those middle ground people ought to be what you want?

Admittedly I'm more in the anxious crowd, so it wouldn't help my chances... but I don't see the people who seem the most stable to be finding each other either. It's weird to me... and there's nothing to really aim for when the rules don't make sense.

But circling back... the stalky stuff really needs to go.
aye if human history has shown something its that humans are the most illogical AND logical speciies all at once.

We send robots with cameras to MArs and then many of us act surprised when the person who was unforgivably uncaring to us before is , 25 years down the line of a relationship, STILL unforgivably uncaring to us right now . There is nothing wrong with being anxious with someone who has explicitly said they want to be monogamous with you. If they dont give a damn about you right now? They probably wont give a damn about you later. Oh well! You can always find someone who DOES want to be monogamous with you . It likely wont be easy let us just get that fact out there but it is possible.

Also if you suspect your partner is cheating first thing you gotta do is 1. dont stalk them cause....just no. DO you want someone to stalk you? No? If not Then dont stalk other people . If someome tells you they dont want you stalking them what the heck are you doing ? Leave them be. (unless you two are into that type of thing...).

2.ask youre supposed partner if you two are still together. If their answer is ANYTHING but 'Fuck Yes We Are Still Together'? Congratulations! It would appear that you are wasting your time on someone who has lukewarm acceptance of who you are and Id recommend that you no longer be with someone who has lukewarm acceptance towards you. Aye MLKJ said it first : 'Lukewarm acceptance is more bewildering that outright rejection'. Its either a 'Fuck Yes' and everything other than that is a 'Fuck No' . And then

3. gather all the evidence that you can legally get to prove that they are in fact cheating. You suspect them of cheating ....Ok....Now Prove it. This evidence also comes in handy when some of these jerks in their court rooms want you to present evidence of cheating (trust me , anyone who has been to court knows thar some judges and lawyers there are some of the most thorough, investigative people ever created. They will scrutinize you on the way that you breathe air. Satan shakes in terror of them...) If you find out that youre supposed partner are cheating ? Oh well. GOodbye to them you should say . There's billions of other people on this planet. GO find another who actually values you and your time...
I feel like i'm being destroyed mentally. She showed me so much affection at the start, she was so nice to me, so loving. She's the first person I had unpaid sex with in my mid 20s. For the first time someone cared about me. For the first time I felt worthy. I felt like I belonged, like I was normal. And it was all ripped away from me in almost an instant. I thought she'd be my first gf, but nope, threw me in the trash like every single one before her.

She messaged the group chat and it sounded like she was coming home from a date. I immediately felt intense panic and just a lack of will to do anything.
I ran over to her house and crept in the shadows to see her getting out of the taxi, to see if she's with someone. I already checked if her car was there 3 times today. By the time I got there the light was already on so I was too slow to see her arriving and going inside.

I am completely broken. I cannot cope with this mentally. It's eating away at me each day. I want it to stop. This pain, this anxiety, this feeling of worthlessness. Why won't anybody love me? I don't know where or how to meet anyone else anymore. Most of my friends have careers now, they're busy, I don't know where to go to try and meet women.
Why does every girl that shows interest in me lose it so quickly?
Why can't I just find one special person? I hate this so, so much. Why was I born.
đź«‚I am sorry for any pain youre going throughđź«‚ nd I cannot give you any advice on how to cope other than try exercising or taking omega 3 supplements cause that all I do to cope.

But what I will tell you is this is that life and love are both gambles. NOTHING is ever assured in life or in love. VERY luck based. Maybe you get lucky, youll probably get unlucky. Oh well. THats just how these gambles go as of right now. Personally I would change things so that things could be more fair and that it would be easier for people of peaceful will to achieve their dreams and to find those that genuinely love them but I have little to no power so that change wknt be happening any time ssoon lol.

There have been millions of humans born before you or I , and who will be born after you and I who did everything correctly and their life's dreams were never achieved or their love life was abysmal or non-existent. They never met that one special person(or special people) , they never achieved ANY of their dreams, they just spent 85 years on this random watery rock and....that was it . Barely anyone noticed their existence or their passing. Thats sadly how it is right now.

The sad thing about love and life is that these are gambles where you will have to make yourself content with having had been able to have played the game ....and ...that will be all that a lot of us get and nothing else.

Sad truth. Boring truth. But the truth....

Sorry.
 
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mirror_mercury

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Dont agree. If someone wants to leave you cause they know youll do better without them they will DEFINITELY tell you. Or at least signal as to how you would do better without them (maybe theyll introduce you to a friend of theirs who is a better match for you than them and theyll just leave you two to do you thing wink wink) They will tell you 'Oh I cheat a lot so youre not gonna wanna be with me' or theyll say ' Oh Im very psychologically hurt right now and I am not trying to hurt those around me. Go off on your own. YOull do mlbetter without me' . Or maybe theyll tell you that you two arent compatible, maybe youre looking for an open relationship and theyre very monogamous.

Why would they not tel you? They see the potential in you and they seek your happiness. so now they want YOU to see the potential in YOU too.

This concept of ghosting someone for their own'good' will never make sense to me. You ghosting someone doesnt do any good , cause 1. youre not telling them why youre ghosting them (did I do something wrong? Did you do something wrong? DId someone I know do something wrong to you that makes you not want to communicate with me? Wot Appened?!) and 2. they break y9ur heart without telling you why theyre breaking your heart. Therefore we can conclude that ghosting someone is ALWAYS a malicious act.

Ive never had a partner before but every time Ive told a friend that I domt want to communicate with them anymore I told them why. We would just stop talking amicably. We must normalize amicably ended friendships and relarionships cause whaterver we got going on right now? THis aint it.
long long term relationships can end up abusive. when you grow tired of each other, when you're in each other's presences for too long, the friction causes conflict
in taoism, it's believed that less is more
taoist romance relationships, they interact rarely, but when they do meet, the love making is intense
 
DirtCommie

DirtCommie

Student
Aug 22, 2025
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long long term relationships can end up abusive. when you grow tired of each other, when you're in each other's presences for too long, the friction causes conflict
in taoism, it's believed that less is more
taoist romance relationships, they interact rarely, but when they do meet, the love making is intense
....hmmm? ....who is talking about abusive or long term relationships?

I dont have anything to cite but I am sure that even the average person in a Taoist relationship would never justify the ghosting of a past partner.
 
Angst Filled Fuck Up

Angst Filled Fuck Up

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Sep 9, 2018
3,181
I think it's important to try to cultivate a mentality of easy come, easy go with other people. I know that's a huge ask if you're not naturally wired that way (I'm not either) but if you can manage that, you'll be way ahead of the curve. It's deeply painful to be hung out to dry or dumped or whatever, and if you can find a way to mitigate that situation for yourself emotionally, you can ultimately become somewhat impervious to one of the most difficult circumstances that can befall you. So I'd say try to develop that form of resilience in whatever way possible.

I believe a big part of it is to try and operate from a position of abundance and options, which is why it's easier those who are sociable or attractive to keep it moving and meet new people. If however you're inclined to stay small, keep to yourself, and only have a limited number of contacts, you're putting too many eggs in one basket and fixating on a single relationship. This is dangerous because it makes the stakes way too high, and with how fickle how people are, it's asking for trouble (ask me how I know).

This is all stuff I'm having to learn too (admittedly too late in life), but I think it's useful at any age. The game nowadays is such that the most aloof wins, and if you're too far on the opposite end of that spectrum, you can, sometimes irreparably, burn yourself.

Good luck in getting over this situation.
 
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mirror_mercury

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....hmmm? ....who is talking about abusive or long term relationships?

I dont have anything to cite but I am sure that even the average person in a Taoist relationship would never justify the ghosting of a past partner.
Taoists do ghost, actually
 
DirtCommie

DirtCommie

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Aug 22, 2025
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I think it's important to try to cultivate a mentality of easy come, easy go with other people. I know that's a huge ask if you're not naturally wired that way (I'm not either) but if you can manage that, you'll be way ahead of the curve. It's deeply painful to be hung out to dry or dumped or whatever, and if you can find a way to mitigate that situation for yourself emotionally, you can ultimately become somewhat impervious to one of the most difficult circumstances that can befall you. So I'd say try to develop that form of resilience in whatever way possible.

I believe a big part of it is to try and operate from a position of abundance and options, which is why it's easier those who are sociable or attractive to keep it moving and meet new people. If however you're inclined to stay small, keep to yourself, and only have a limited number of contacts, you're putting too many eggs in one basket and fixating on a single relationship. This is dangerous because it makes the stakes way too high, and with how fickle how people are, it's asking for trouble (ask me how I know).

This is all stuff I'm having to learn too (admittedly too late in life), but I think it's useful at any age. The game nowadays is such that the most aloof wins, and if you're too far on the opposite end of that spectrum, you can, sometimes irreparably, burn yourself.

Good luck in getting over this situation.
100% agree with this comment

1. people who have a lot of options cause maybe theyre wealthy or soocialable or attractive can EASILY drop a relationship and start another. They have an abundance of options . Meanwhile most other people dont. Thats just life. Life is an unfair gamble the way that humanity has set things up right now. YOu can play all your cards right and still lose and be left with nothing . oh well. Play the game or fold your cards.

2.I too am learning to do this thing of just accepting 'easy come, easy go' cause it is true. If you got something easily? Life js unfair, why do you think itll be so hard to keep that thing? It clearly wont be hard to lose it. Same thing applies to everything in life. If you busted your butt to get it? Youre probably gonna havevto bust your klbutt to ever lose it. If you got it easily? BE prepared to lose in a mstter of seconds or minutes.
 

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