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GentleJerk

GentleJerk

Carrot juice pimp.
Dec 14, 2021
1,372
It's hard enough being in a position where I actually might have to kill myself.

One thing I want to do is minimize the potential impact on my family and loved ones as much as possible. I don't want to die. Really, I don't. There's so much I want to achieve in life and so many reasons why I need to be here. I have a beautiful daughter who is disabled with an acquired brain injury, whom I love more than anything in the world, and I promised I would always be there for her, to love and care for.

But after more than 14 months of enduring horrible pain along with other debilitating and uncontrollable symptoms, my quality of life is now so bad that I have lost the ability to do everything that I love and that is important. After seeing nine different GP's, not receiving any effective help or treatment, and being told repeatedly to simply accept living with these ongoing problems and keep waiting it out, things are not getting any better- in fact, they are getting seriously worse.

Every day is a constant struggle to do the most simple things like keep myself hydrated, eat normally and go to the bathroom. Even trying to lay down in bed is hard because I am constantly so aware of the various pain and dysfunction in my body, and ruminating about my impending demise, that I can't even relax.

When I first spoke to my mother a couple of weeks ago about how I am only able to cope with so much, and due to progressive dramatic loss of quality of life, I am having to now open up the possibility of suicide in the future- my intentions were to help her understand that this was a rational decision, and prepare her as much as possible. My mother is not like most parents who are on a totally different level to their kids, she has always been like a best friend and we usually understand each other.

She seemed to take the news rather well at first, though a few tears rolled down her face as I explained myself. As is her nature, she replied with understanding and even expressed that she wants to be there with me if that time comes, but also reassuring me that everything was going to be ok and things will get better. After a while she didn't want to talk about it anymore which is understandable, but she seemed ok overall.

Yesterday was a particularly rough day, things have started reaching a critical point. Since I now have the means available, I decided to bring up the subject with mum again. I discussed with her that if things continue to get worse I am still very much going to consider ending my life, however I can assure that I've gone out of my way to obtain a substance that will provide the fastest, most peaceful death possible...

...This time, mum did not handle it well at all. She got quite upset and sort of flew off the handle. Saying that I need try and see another different doctor, even though I have seen more than any normal person would without giving up. That I haven't done enough to fix this, when I have altered my diet, spent thousands on supplements medicines and herbal remedies, been hospitalized and pumped with radioactive dyes and CT scans, and for more than a year I've done literally everything I can think of. She even stated that she would kill herself if I did. She was crying, almost hysterical and I felt absolutely awful for having told her these things.

Neither of us have mentioned anything since, and strangely things have been carrying on normally almost as if nothing has happened. I think that mum is not able to cope with the idea that she may lose me, especially due to something like suicide even though it would be a rational and humane way to go, and in reality far better than a cruel medical related death.

I just want to say be careful and really think twice before you decide to open up to people in your life about feeling suicidal. Everybody encourages talking about it, which is more likely to be helpful for those who need to be talked down from irrational suicide- but for those people with rational reasons it's not always going to produce positive results, because unfortunately most people will react badly, likely want to stop you and not accept what you are saying. It can easily change the way people interact and feel about you, and cause a lot of strife. Of course you should make a decision based on your particular circumstances, maybe like me you think the people you want to open up to will be understanding. Just be careful.
 
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RN12

RN12

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Jul 25, 2021
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i don't know what to say exactly.

But i'm in the same situation. since 13 months. (almost same like you) Everyday in horrible pain extreme neurological problems and another 15 symptoms. Can only lie on the couch and suffer like hell. I can walk maybe 3 minutes maximum and that creates a lot of discomfort. I'm suicidal everyday. Still trying to go on for my family/wife/friends. But it's no life at all. Only try to distract with a game on laptop but the pains make this almost impossible. I'm housebound/bedridden

I hint my family also about ctb. But i hint with the words 'i can't do this for more years' 'i will not reach 35 years old in this state' (i'm 31)

I want to live badly but this condition is extreme. And make life impossible (mine started as a side effect of an antidepressant, i'm completely wrecked in every cel).
Still try to go on longer to see if things improve. Living minute to minute hour to hour.

I made a agreement with myself that i HAVE TO reach the 24month mark first before ctb. So i try to reach that (don't know how) but still breathing... 6 months ago i said i cant do another month, 5 months ago i said the same. I'm still here, more dead than alive but breathing. And hoping to see some improvement in the future. But it's tough.

I don't experience anything what's happening in the world or around me because i'm in so much discomfort. I guess you will relate.

Don't know what to say buddie... But i believe things can improve over time. The body is always 'at work' to find balance.

hang in there for at least some more months. You're not alone.
But i know it's extreme hard
 
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Somber

Somber

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Jan 6, 2022
457
I completely understand your mother's reaction. Of course she doesn't want to lose you. She loves you. How would you react if it was your daughter telling you she bought some N in case she needed it?

It's why we are on this forum, because others, especially loved ones, often can't contemplate your suicide.

If you do decide to CTB make sure to write your loved ones a letter so they may better understand your choices and see to it that they have the necessary support from relatives and/or friends to cope with it.
 
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little helpers

little helpers

did I tie the tourniquet on my arm or on my neck?
Dec 14, 2021
518
hi @GentleSoul

first thing I wanna say is I'm more than glad to have met you on this forum. I really enjoy your posts and feel a connection. I want to say thank you for even the smallest things. the kind words you replied to my "playwright" post (which soon disappeared lol, doesn't matter), when I was at such a point of desperation. to me it means a lot.

there you said it takes a lot of strength to go with a method brutal as that. though I want you to know that you living to this point, takes far greater strength than this, whether your decision is to keep going or not.

I think talking about suicide is a lot like coming out. and coming out a lot like suicide. both starts a grieving process that takes time. time for the other person to process their emotions beyond the knee-jerk reaction of shock. time for coming together to communicate. time before the other person even understands what we mean. it truly is hard. especially on you. with the pain you're trying to cope day by day, while holding space for your closest family.

I wish I have clever things to say. things that'll make it easier for you. but I don't quite know how. maybe it helps to wait, but waiting is already too much. maybe it helps to invite her read some posts you like here, to gain perspectives, but I'm worried about a more intense reaction. I just don't know. I can only be here for you, no matter your decision.

so keep us posted. I'm (un)officially turning this space into hospice care now. if one day you're free to leave this space becuz of proper medical care, I can't be more happy for you. if you decide to rest while in this space, I'm just as glad, albeit sorry, that peace is found this way, even if it's the only way it can be found.

sending love <3
little helpers
 
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subj

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Dec 16, 2021
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I feel for you who hav3e chronic pain and since I never had it feel ignorant for suggesting anything..easier for me to say than do, but what about treatments like biofeedback?
 
wait.what

wait.what

no really, what?
Aug 14, 2020
990
I did this with my family, for similar reasons. They took it about as well as could be expected. None of them promised any assistance or even that they wouldn't fight me, but at least they didn't start screaming bloody murder and dial 911. My intent was to relieve them of the endless terror of never knowing when they'd find my body. Being on a death watch for a loved one is bad enough when death is certainly imminent. Nobody is meant to live like that year in and year out.

Obviously this puts me in a potentially difficult situation. Suppose I'm finally ready to throw the towel in and I tell them so, and they lose their shit? I could end up in the Ha-Ha House, where I'd have to petition a judge to get out. I'm not really sure what I'd do in that situation. I guess I'll burn that bridge when I come to it.
 
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Depressed Cat

Depressed Cat

Mage
Jan 4, 2022
567
This is a very, very difficult situation for any parent, no matter how loving and understanding they are.

I'm very sorry that you're suffering so much everyday. It's sad and unfortunate that doctors are not able to do much for you. When life gets agonisingly difficult, it's only natural to want to CTB.

I think your mother will eventually accept the idea that you will leave her one day. She loves you and is scared of losing you. So she cannot immediately come to terms with the idea that you want to CTB. However, as time passes, and she sees you suffer everyday, she may one day be resigned to the fact that it would be better for you to make a peaceful exit to end your suffering.

As this is a difficult and delicate topic, you need to take it slowly and step by step to convince her of, or at least make her come to terms with, the difficult but rational decision of CTB one day.
 
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Ta555

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Aug 31, 2021
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This is what happened to me too. I told two people closest to me in my family and at first they seemed to get it even though they were very much against the idea but then at one point when I almost made an attempt they told me they couldn't let me go through with it (I stopped myself, wasn't forced). They said they can't let me go through with it and I need to keep trying. But I feel my time is running out. Luckily even though they say they can't let me go through with it, they don't have control over me so it's my decision. Unfortunately my method isn't the peaceful drug and what I regret most is I won't be able to say a proper goodbye since I'll have to keep it all a secret. I wish they could accept it (a big ask I know) so we could be together and say goodbye but that's just not going to happen and that's sad.
 
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wait.what

wait.what

no really, what?
Aug 14, 2020
990
That is really sad. Given a choice, I'd rather die peacefully in bed from a barbiturate overdose with my loved ones around me than try to sneak off into the woods alone to blow my brains out with a shotgun. And possibly fail. And then live as a literally faceless inmate of a nursing home for 15 years until I die of some terrible institutional-grade infection.

It's just that my first choice isn't an option for me under the laws of my country. So, Plan B it is!!
 
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Anxieyote

Anxieyote

Sobriety over everything else • 31 • Midwest
Mar 24, 2021
444
Once they found out I admitted myself to a psych ward, the cat was out of the bag.

Nothing much has changed aside from some of them telling me how brave I was for doing 'self-care' when I needed it, and sending me texts like, "I will always be here to talk if you need help."

They are also a bit more vigilant when it comes to where I'm at, what I'm doing, and how quickly I respond to texts, which could potentially derail CTB plans. I think that's the most important takeaway before you consider telling friends or loved ones—their increased vigilance may not be a good thing for methods that take more than a few hours to complete.

Leaving a note will be my preferred method of communication. I don't feel like I have much to gain by explaining the depth of my sadness while I'm alive, when I could easily go into more depth about it in my note if I want to.
 
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t-rex

t-rex

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Jan 8, 2022
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I've been very up-front and transparent with my family about the nature of my suicidal thoughts, and have questioned the wisdom of that, as OP warns. Of course they're worried, and they take it somewhat seriously, but not *entirely* seriously, I think, because they believe my suicidal thoughts are a product of OCD rather than depression. (Long story.) In other words, they think I have irrational fears and obsessions about killing myself but with no intent whatsoever. I cannot get through to them that I have been in an existential crisis for years that only gets worse and worse, my existence more and more meaningless.

I think viewing my suicidal thoughts as OCD rather than true SI helps them not fully confront the fact that I hate my life and don't want to live anymore. Occasionally my Dad will engage with me when I give my reasons, and he gets moralistic and severe about it (his way of showing it would hurt him is by being angry about it now), so that conversation doesn't really go anywhere. My sisters won't engage with me meaningfully because they don't want to "feed my OCD" by entertaining my trains of thought around suicide.

At least my therapist hears me. And my brother. Otherwise it's kinda lonely. That's why I came here!
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I never see it as a good thing to tell others about being suicidal, in my case they would not accept and understand my decision and would expect me to suffer for decades. That sounds like a horrible situation to be in, life is just so cruel and it can be dreadful being trapped in this human body as it can torture us with health problems. I'm sorry you have to go through this. Whatever happens, I wish you the best.
 
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SovietSuicide

SovietSuicide

Student
Jan 8, 2022
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Good advice.

It's usually people who aren't suicidal or are anti-suicide that tell you to "open up" and "talk", my family found out after I said I wanted to CTB after an attempt, all it's done is made the last year or so with my family more awkward, more isolating for me & more sad for them when I could've just kept it to myself and the last year or so at least wouldn't have been overshadowed with my suicidality, it would've been just one more year they might've enjoyed more and I hate myself that I couldn't let them have that at least.
 
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GentleJerk

GentleJerk

Carrot juice pimp.
Dec 14, 2021
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@RN12 I know it must be really tough, I'm sorry you're going through it, sounds very similar. Good on you for wanting to stick around, that's your choice and I respect that.

@little helpers thank you it's a pleasure having you around on this forum. Yeah I had an inkling that your thread might have been pushing the rules a bit! ah well at least you got to have some feedback before it was taken down.

It's a tough subject, one of the hardest. I get it that people can't help the way they feel most of the time. No need to be sorry, more time is something that could very well help, though it gets harder for me to think and do all the things I need to as time goes on. I really appreciate your understanding and kind words, I know you are going through a lot too. Much love.

@subj thanks for suggestion.

@Somber I know, I understand her reaction too. I consider my loved ones first and foremost and have been constantly thinking about everything I can do.

@wait.what I understand, thinking everything through as much as possible is definitely not a bad idea.

@Depressed Cat Thank you for the kindness and understanding. Your words are very well put, I'll keep them in mind as I fully agree with you.

@Ta555 Yes, I definitely feel this. It's true that the decision is yours at the end of the day, but obviously most of us would try however we can to ease the impact on others and often this involves wanting to talk about it with them. It's unfortunate that sometimes this does not achieve the desired outcome and can create problems.

@AnxiousSchizoid it sounds like they are supporting towards what you are going through and havent been acting out or overly traumatized by the reality of your ideation which is good. It sucks that you are in this situation.

@t-rex I see and hear this all too often, it can be one of the hardest things to talk about with people in a matter-of-fact way without emotions personal opinions and lack of understanding complicating everything. Suicide is something that is part of a spectrum, with completely irrational on one end and completely rational on the other. A large part of society tends to consider all suicide to be bad and therefore irrational because they cannot personally understand it.

@FuneralCry thank you FuneralCry. I understand where you are coming from if you know nothing good would come from it.

@SovietSuicide Yes yours is a good example, knowing about your suicidality in this situation isn't helping you or them, it's tough on other people and for anyone reading, it is a worthy consideration to weigh up the pros and cons of what you are exposing others to.

And I agree about anti-suicidal people pushing others to open up and talk about suicide, because they believe it is wrong no matter what, and they want to know if you are suicidal simply so that they can stop you. Those are the people you definitely shouldn't talk to, you want someone who is capable of understanding even if they don't agree.
 
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Rain_Hermit

Rain_Hermit

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Dec 12, 2021
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My loved ones and I endure a lot of psychological/emotional torture everyday .If my plans for liberation were to fail,we will continue to live under someone's foot for the remaining of our lifespans.To avoid such a terrible fate,I suggested that we commit group suicide.They took it suprisingly well considering our options are limited.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,801
This breaks my heart @GentleSoul. Dealing with pain every single day is a ghastly burden that slowly wears away at one's soul. It's completely understandable that the ones we love want us to stick around at all costs, coping and dealing with loss- regardless of whether it is through ctb or natural causes we all share an inevitable fate in the end, as we are all mortal after all- can be extremely agonising for the person who is grieving.

Caught up in this panic, it is very hard for them to see our side of the story, the sheer amount of suffering that we are enduring every day with each laboured breath our bodies seize from us. Often times, it is an ingrained tendency to refuse to let go, no matter how badly the other party is hurting. It's a tragic consequence of life and it's creation, that death will eventually ride in to snuff out the cherished bonds we've established during our time on earth.

No one should ever have to go through this. I understand how much you are hurting, because I am in a similar situation. I suffer from chronic pain and illnesses, developmental disabilities, as well as severe ptsd that is incurable. Every person I've ever been close to is in full blown denial of how severely this myriad of conditions effect me.

Nothing I have is treatable. I've tried over 20 medications throughout the course of my life, and I'm only 22 years old. ME/CFS gets no research funding, and we will likely see no promising theurapeutics during my lifetime. Being open and honest about my feelings has only served to push the few people I have away from me. They don't want to hear it or accept that I'm never getting better.

My partner has threatened to leave me many times, because he is convinced with the right mindset, I will be able to endure this hell. I have neurological problems, IBS, constantly pain in my legs, splitting headaches, back aches, trouble regulsting my body temperature, etc. I just don't know what to do.

We either suffer miserably in silence, or hide away until the weight becomes too much to carry, making plans and sneaking off, spending the final days in fear, because no one will acknowledge our wishes or view them as anything but pure, irrational lunacy.

It's so so difficult to keep my feelings bottled up. I let them spill out far too much, but every time, I have that sinking sensation in the back of my mind that my actions are going to drive me further into despair, where I will have no choice but to ctb abruptly because if I continue to speak my truth, others will abandon or ostracise me further.

Suicidal actions, especially chronic demonstrations of desiring it, are still extremely taboo no matter how much these just talk to someone campaign's claim otherwise.
 
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wait.what

wait.what

no really, what?
Aug 14, 2020
990
@Rain_Hermit -- Wow. At least I don't have to worry about the rest of my family having no chance at a life. In my case, it's just me. Actually, until this very moment I didn't realize that I should be grateful that I don't have relatives who are bonkers like me.

That's what privilege is, by the way: the sum total of the problems you don't see because you haven't had them personally. Like if you've never had to rely on a wheelchair to get yourself or a loved one around, you'll never notice things like whether your local park has curb cuts for wheelchairs (mine doesn't). <-- I know that literally no one asked. I just end up saying stuff like that over and over in internet debates about civil rights, so I thought, hey, here's an opportunity to pre-say it! Sorry to bring what could be a derailing comment into the thread. I was high.
 
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WhiteRabbit

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I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,656
I'm sorry you're going through this, health problems are so cruel. I have a bunch myself and I don't really want to die either, but I can't go on like this. I do feel for your mom a bit. It can't be easy to hear that her child won't be around anymore. You're right about things changing after confiding in someone about ctb. I told my husband a few weeks ago and he's been pretty quiet ever since. It's a bit awkward at my house right now. :notsure:

I'm assuming you've been tested for autoimmune disease? I only ask because mine was missed for years.
 
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WearyHSP

WearyHSP

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Dec 12, 2021
164
One of the main reasons I'm still here is because I have so much to say in my letter. More than they'll want to hear. So I keep putting it off. (It's a long story.)
I feel for everyone who has people who love them in their lives. That would make the final decision to end so much harder.
 
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BlazingBob

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Oct 28, 2021
608
My family truly don't give a shit. My dad has suggested and encouraged me to take my own life several times over the years. I'm not kidding. He told me to stop being a pussy and just get it over with. I've met ice cubes with more warmth than my mom. As such, I don't give a rodent's behind how it affects them. I'm homeless with a debilitating incurable neurodegenerative illness.
 
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GentleJerk

GentleJerk

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Dec 14, 2021
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@Rain_Hermit this sounds terrible! what do you mean living under someone's foot?

@KuriGohan&Kamehameha This is so true and something I think about all the time. Of course losing a loved one to suicide is always seen as a tragic loss, but in reality no matter how someone passes away, whether it's suicide, an accident, an illness or disease, there will always be a tremendous sense of loss and loved ones will always grieve.

I can't express how beautifully articulated your words are, It's so true that those who love us the most want to hold onto us, we also want to hold onto them despite our suffering, and the harsh reality that sickness and death indiscriminately breaks our cherished bonds is nothing short of tragic. I very much struggle to come to terms with it.

I'm truly sorry that you are dealing with such a difficult list of conditions, at such a young age too. Chronic pain is torture and ME/CFS in particular is one of the most poorly understood and untreated conditions, severe fatigue is a part of what I deal with and from researching online I became familiar with ME. My heart goes out to you. I've noticed people that are dealt these horrible cards in life are often some of the most intelligent, caring and amazing individuals.

I really hope that your partner will begin to accept and understand the severity of what you are having to live with. It's far too easy for people who are not experiencing these sort of problems to trivialize things. I think sometimes it might come from a place of 'tough love' or something of the sort- where they believe that they might be able to convince you that it's not as bad as it really is, in an attempt to inspire you with some type of mind-over-matter quality that might reduce your suffering. Idk really. Sometimes it's just plain ignorance and dismissal which can be incredibly disheartening.

On a side note It's so spun out you commented here, I stumbled accross this video last night thru a link on the forum, before posting this thread https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle...ched-kids-to-take-their-own-lives/ar-BB1dXyMx it's from a while back but you are actually in it!

@WhiteRabbit I can only imagine, its hard to know what to do and say once that ship has sailed! I feel for you.

I don't know if autoimmune disease is something that can easily be directly tested for here through the public health care routes, I have had tests that tie in with it such as CRP, ESR, ANA, Ferritin, Immunoglobulin, and the standard sort of CBC/FBC tests- but admittedly these were done before the symptoms have recently gotten much worse so it might be time to re-try.

Though It's hard to want to, as nothing they have done so far has been of any use and they are going down the path of beginning to suggest psychosomatic causes just because the basic tests havent shown up with the real cause. Somatic is the excuse they use when they dont know what is causing the problems, and I would argue that 99% of somatic & psychosomatic illnesses are a misdiagnosis of something quite real like a hidden infection or pathogen. (Autoimmune I am also certain is the result of some undetected or hitherto unknown infection, pathogen, foreign substance, bacteria or etc.)

Also the illness itself combined with the huge loss of quality of life has caused depression, and they are quick to write off everything as a result of depression. IMHO I think these are attempts to continually fob me off or cover up their own ignorance.

But thank you, I will look into this and try to be more pushy as the symptoms are very much autoimmune-like.

@WearyHSP I hope your letter is everything you want it to be and more.

@BlazingBob thats unbelievably cruel, seriously. Shame on them. I am so sorry my friend, it is totally understandable that you don't care what they think. Sounds like they don't deserve that consideration anyway.

And every single human being deserves to have access to food, shelter, and healthcare completely free of cost. We have the technology and the scientific capablity to provide this, not even at some point- but right now! It looks like the hope I once had of mankind abolishing the outdated and corrupt monetary system, and acheiving this within my lifetime with approaches like The Venus Project (TVP) and a Resource Based Economy (RBE) is almost certainly not going to happen any time soon. But I wish so much that it does soon, so that so everybody especially people like you have a better life, not just the top 2% wealthiest.
 
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Feeding Pigeons

Feeding Pigeons

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Aug 5, 2021
776
I'm sorry you're in this perdicament GentleSoul. I've told my mother what I intend to do, like you did. Its uncomfortable and nothing makes it "right", doesn't matter how you phrase it or how they react. I wish I had something better to say. I enjoy seeing you post on this forum.
 
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I'm sorry you're in this perdicament GentleSoul. I've told my mother what I intend to do, like you did. Its uncomfortable and nothing makes it "right", doesn't matter how you phrase it or how they react. I wish I had something better to say. I enjoy seeing you post on this forum.
Thank you @Feeding Pigeons , you understand. Don't worry, what you're saying here really speak volumes.

Cheers my friend! I like to stop and have a read whenever I see one of your posts, you're a good one.
 
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Aug 5, 2021
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Thank you @Feeding Pigeons , you understand. Don't worry, what you're saying here really speak volumes.

Cheers my friend! I like to stop and have a read whenever I see one of your posts, you're a good one.
Hah, thanks friendo. That means the world to me.
 
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Dragon's Heart

Dragon's Heart

Well, that didnt go as planned.
Dec 14, 2021
77
starts a grieving process that takes time. time for the other person to process their emotions beyond the knee-jerk reaction of shock. time for coming together to communicate. time before the other person even understands what we mean. it truly is hard.
^This.
If you don't mind me asking- is your situation terminal?
approaches like The Venus Project (TVP) and a Resource Based Economy (RBE) is almost certainly not going to happen any time soon. But I wish so much that it does soon, so that so everybody especially people like you have a better life, not just the top 2% wealthiest.
I am familiar with The Venus Project👍 and while I don't think we will see this in our lifetimes, it is possible that the capitalist extremes are bearing down right now because it may be dying and fighting for its life. I hold out hope for this.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,656
@GentleSoul The ANA test diagnosed me. It's strange that so many people are experiencing unexplained pain and illness, fibromyalgia type stuff...etc. My rheumatologist thinks it's all the chemicals in our lives/diets. Autoimmune diseases alone are up 30% more then they used to be decades ago.
 
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pole

Global Mod
Sep 18, 2018
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better to bottle up how you feel and what you're going through and keep it inside.

can't expect others to understand or care. more times than not, they don't.
 
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Ethereal Knight

Ethereal Knight

Seja um bom soldado, morra onde você caiu.
Jan 10, 2022
816
better to bottle up how you feel and what you're going through and keep it inside.

can't expect others to understand or care. more times than not, they don't.
I completely agree. I'll stay in silence and secrecy until the end. That also helps to dramatically reduce the possibilities of my body being found early, so I guess it's a super win-win!
 
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completely-done

completely-done

Experienced
Jan 31, 2022
211
Same. I fully well know I will have to die alone and I've come to terms with that. It's safer that way
 
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