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I spent almost all of last night researching and practicing noose-tying. Only slept about three hours, hardly ate, and now I'm back at it. Eyes are burning. Stomach hurts. In movies and TV, it just happens. Everyone just has the perfect rope in their houses, perfect length, perfect apparatus to stand on, perfect support to hang from, and it's over off-screen: peaceful and pleasant.

I never thought I'd ever attempt hanging. For some reason, of all the ways to go, it just didn't sit right with me, but it seems it might be my only option. SN is just a bitch to get a hold of, and the couple sources I found don't seem reputable. It's a whole other process to test the purity. Looked into a gun again, but in my state, I need at least two people as references to vouch for my mental health, and there's just no way. Besides that they know of my mental health, they know I dislike guns. Suddenly wanting one would be the most obvious tell.

I was, honestly, prepared to stick it out another two or three years, but a couple things happened last week that made me feel like maybe I'd done all I can at this point. I'd mentioned in another topic I wanted to help more people before I go. I e-mailed a homeless shelter, but with the pandemic raging in most of my country, they're very selective about who they let in. They were only looking to fill a couple of positions, and I just wasn't equipped for what they wanted.

The bigger tragedy is something that happened at work. A girl who recently started confided in me that she was being harassed by two other guys. I told her I'd help her however she wanted, but she didn't want me to confront them or tell management. She was just looking for a friend. I told her I could be her friend at work and run interference between her and these jerks, but that I don't let people into my personal life(for obvious reasons). That wasn't enough for her. She wanted to be "really good friends." There was a lot of back and forth over the next couple of days, ending with me essentially saying, "I told you what I can offer. This is the way it is." Between that and the boiling point the harassment reached when someone else caught these guys, bringing it to the attention of almost the entire workplace, she just wanted to crawl away in embarrassment and never come back. I've truncated the story quite a bit for the sake of brevity, but those are the broad strokes.

This isn't remotely the first time I've been in this situation. Ironically, I tend to be a magnet for broken people, and I like helping people. I've done volunteer work in the past, worked in nursing homes, and in general, I find myself being the rock other people need in their lives quite often. Knowing what it's like to be in a horrible place makes it difficult to turn people away, and that's what got me starting to think about ending my own life. Most people would probably say I'm not that old, but it feels like it's been a long and exhausting life, and I want my eternal reward. It feels like everyone always needs something, and the world is only getting worse. I helped as much as I could. This recent experience made me realize that maybe I'm all used up. If I couldn't be a true friend to this person, someone who may very well have been suffering worse than I was, maybe I just don't have the emotional capacity to help people anymore. If that's the case, I feel it's time I earned my rest.

This isn't a goodbye thread. As I said, this is the first I've ever looked into hanging, specifically. I've got more research and practice to do. I'm definitely onto something with the simple noose + overhand knot. Had it around my head last night, and it seems to slide very easily and tighten around my neck. It's a 310lbs capacity rope, and at 275lbs, I need every bit of that. What I'm planning is one noose around a door knob, throwing the rope over the door, and tying another noose around my neck as close to the top of the door as I can. I'm not very tall. So I think the logistics of it work. I'll definitely need a hotel room with sturdy doorknobs. That's something else I'll have to look into. My biggest concern is that if I'm flailing about(very likely), the rope might slide off the door. My weight ought to keep a fair amount of pressure on the door, but it's a thick rope. The door won't be able to close completely and keep it perfectly secure. If I end up failing, I may get desperate and just throw myself on my ka-bar because this is getting ridiculous for me. I feel like an absolute fraud putting all of this effort into this and not, at least, making an attempt.

Apologies for the long post. I hope I don't vent too much around here. So many people here are suffering, and you're the only ones who get it.
 
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You might want to go with full suspension of you really want it to work .
In my opinion partial hanging doesn't work or is really difficult to achieve and i think those famous celebs used drugs.

I wouldn't go to a hotel. Just find a suitable tree in the woods.

I personally wouldn't do hanging as there's 30s-1min of suffering if done right.

But full suspension is a 1 way ticket and should be taken seriously
 
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You might want to go with full suspension of you really want it to work .
In my opinion partial hanging doesn't work or is really difficult to achieve and i think those famous celebs used drugs.

I wouldn't go to a hotel. Just find a suitable tree in the woods.

I personally wouldn't do hanging as there's 30s-1min of suffering if done right.

But full suspension is a 1 way ticket and should be taken seriously
What drugs do you think they used? I've been annoyed by how Kate Spade seemed to effortlessly ctb with a damn scarf tied to a doorknob.
 
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What drugs do you think they used? I've been annoyed by how Kate Spade seemed to effortlessly ctb with a damn scarf tied to a doorknob.
I have no idea which ones but the ones that people pass out on and cannot be awakened until the effects wear off...so basically you tie everything up and kneel down or squat with the noose tied tightly around your neck and wait till you pass out because after that it's just mins to death.
 
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I spent almost all of last night researching and practicing noose-tying. Only slept about three hours, hardly ate, and now I'm back at it. Eyes are burning. Stomach hurts. In movies and TV, it just happens. Everyone just has the perfect rope in their houses, perfect length, perfect apparatus to stand on, perfect support to hang from, and it's over off-screen: peaceful and pleasant.

I never thought I'd ever attempt hanging. For some reason, of all the ways to go, it just didn't sit right with me, but it seems it might be my only option. SN is just a bitch to get a hold of, and the couple sources I found don't seem reputable. It's a whole other process to test the purity. Looked into a gun again, but in my state, I need at least two people as references to vouch for my mental health, and there's just no way. Besides that they know of my mental health, they know I dislike guns. Suddenly wanting one would be the most obvious tell.

I was, honestly, prepared to stick it out another two or three years, but a couple things happened last week that made me feel like maybe I'd done all I can at this point. I'd mentioned in another topic I wanted to help more people before I go. I e-mailed a homeless shelter, but with the pandemic raging in most of my country, they're very selective about who they let in. They were only looking to fill a couple of positions, and I just wasn't equipped for what they wanted.

The bigger tragedy is something that happened at work. A girl who recently started confided in me that she was being harassed by two other guys. I told her I'd help her however she wanted, but she didn't want me to confront them or tell management. She was just looking for a friend. I told her I could be her friend at work and run interference between her and these jerks, but that I don't let people into my personal life(for obvious reasons). That wasn't enough for her. She wanted to be "really good friends." There was a lot of back and forth over the next couple of days, ending with me essentially saying, "I told you what I can offer. This is the way it is." Between that and the boiling point the harassment reached when someone else caught these guys, bringing it to the attention of almost the entire workplace, she just wanted to crawl away in embarrassment and never come back. I've truncated the story quite a bit for the sake of brevity, but those are the broad strokes.

This isn't remotely the first time I've been in this situation. Ironically, I tend to be a magnet for broken people, and I like helping people. I've done volunteer work in the past, worked in nursing homes, and in general, I find myself being the rock other people need in their lives quite often. Knowing what it's like to be in a horrible place makes it difficult to turn people away, and that's what got me starting to think about ending my own life. Most people would probably say I'm not that old, but it feels like it's been a long and exhausting life, and I want my eternal reward. It feels like everyone always needs something, and the world is only getting worse. I helped as much as I could. This recent experience made me realize that maybe I'm all used up. If I couldn't be a true friend to this person, someone who may very well have been suffering worse than I was, maybe I just don't have the emotional capacity to help people anymore. If that's the case, I feel it's time I earned my rest.

This isn't a goodbye thread. As I said, this is the first I've ever looked into hanging, specifically. I've got more research and practice to do. I'm definitely onto something with the simple noose + overhand knot. Had it around my head last night, and it seems to slide very easily and tighten around my neck. It's a 310lbs capacity rope, and at 275lbs, I need every bit of that. What I'm planning is one noose around a door knob, throwing the rope over the door, and tying another noose around my neck as close to the top of the door as I can. I'm not very tall. So I think the logistics of it work. I'll definitely need a hotel room with sturdy doorknobs. That's something else I'll have to look into. My biggest concern is that if I'm flailing about(very likely), the rope might slide off the door. My weight ought to keep a fair amount of pressure on the door, but it's a thick rope. The door won't be able to close completely and keep it perfectly secure. If I end up failing, I may get desperate and just throw myself on my ka-bar because this is getting ridiculous for me. I feel like an absolute fraud putting all of this effort into this and not, at least, making an attempt.

Apologies for the long post. I hope I don't vent too much around here. So many people here are suffering, and you're the only ones who get it.
I definitely relate to your quest. I've personally known of at least two people who hung themselves and I just don't know how they figured out how to do it right or if their technique resulted in a lot of suffering. I actually have SN but I have gotten less trustworthy of it as I've done more reading because the only way to use it successfully is to get a hold of other drugs like meto which I have not yet figured out. So I have been pondering hanging.
 
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When I hear of all the people who have succeeded with hanging, it does make it sound so easy but once I started to research the method, it made me realise how difficult it really is. To me hanging sounds like a horrible way to leave this world and I have never attempted because of the fear of failure. We all deserve the option of a peaceful way to exit this world and no one should have to resort to methods like this in the first place, but I guess when I get desperate I will have no other choice. I am also tired of living and I know that it is hard to carry on when all you want is to leave this world. I wish you the best in whatever you decide to do.
 
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I'll definitely need a hotel room with sturdy doorknobs


I don't want to get into the technical of it, but that places the doorknob in "shear", a type of force for which it wasn't designed, certainly not to withstand a 275lb load in that direction. It may hold. I don't know. Some of that depends on the substrate (door) to which it is attached. Also, with the rope hanging over the top of the door like described adds a "stresser" to the rope, effectively lowering its rated capacity. And honestly, I think that a 310lb capacity rope is not enough "safety factor" for a 275lb load. There is a built-in "safety factor" in the rope, but not that much. Personally, rope rated at 3X the intended load would be my choice.
 
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Slf wld nt wn2 encourg n.e.thng bt wld b abl 2 cnfrm if certn srces of s.n r legt - slf wll nt shre sourcs bt wll cnfrm if u ask

Unsuccssl hangng cn rsult in brn-damge whre faild s.n attmpts crry fewr rsks
 
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My biggest concern is that if I'm flailing about(very likely), the rope might slide off the door.

If this is your main issue, you can make some contraptions to prevent it from sliding off. You can drive a small screw in there, even with a manual screwdriver that would prevent it.

But I prefer full suspension. I know some people will disagree, but I think it's a relatively fail-safe, and pain-free method. You pass out within 5-10 seconds, and after that there is no way back.
 
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Slf wld nt wn2 encourg n.e.thng bt wld b abl 2 cnfrm if certn srces of s.n r legt - slf wll nt shre sourcs bt wll cnfrm if u ask & tstng = nt dffclt

Unsuccssl hangng cn rsult in brn-damge whre faild s.n attmpts crry fewr rsks
one thing I like to remind folks of with SN is that if you survive and do have a change of heart, your chances of getting cancer have gone through the roof, as SN is a known carcinogen in much smaller quantities than it takes to CTB. I'm not saying this to to be a fear mongerer, and obviously this fact means absolutely nothing if you are CTB due to terminal or degenerative illness, etc. But I just think folks should have all the facts before choosing! Until euthanasia is regulated and legalized, unfortunately every method is going to come with some major drawbacks, whether they're physical, legal, financial, etc.
 
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I don't want to get into the technical of it, but that places the doorknob in "shear", a type of force for which it wasn't designed, certainly not to withstand a 275lb load in that direction. It may hold. I don't know. Some of that depends on the substrate (door) to which it is attached. Also, with the rope hanging over the top of the door like described adds a "stresser" to the rope, effectively lowering its rated capacity. And honestly, I think that a 310lb capacity rope is not enough "safety factor" for a 275lb load. There is a built-in "safety factor" in the rope, but not that much. Personally, rope rated at 3X the intended load would be my choice.

By all means, get technical. Any information is appreciated. If I need sturdier rope, I need sturdier rope, and thank you to those who suggested a tree or driving a screw in the door. I'd considered a tree at first, as I do live around wooded areas, but they almost all have trails running through them. I was concerned about being discovered. The obvious solution would be to go at night when there's no foot traffic, but then I'm looking at having to tie knots in the dark. I'm already not positive my noose will work, and on top of that, if I'm dragging stepladders and flashlights into a forest, I'm not doing myself any favours for stealth. I thought a hotel room at night, locked doors, it might keep me secret long enough for no one to find me too quickly, but I see nothing can be easy, can it? Now I'm picturing that doorknob ripping right off. Maybe taking a chance on some SN I'm unsure of is the better gamble.
 
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By all means, get technical. Any information is appreciated. If I need sturdier rope, I need sturdier rope, and thank you to those who suggested a tree or driving a screw in the door. I'd considered a tree at first, as I do live around wooded areas, but they almost all have trails running through them. I was concerned about being discovered. The obvious solution would be to go at night when there's no foot traffic, but then I'm looking at having to tie knots in the dark. I'm already not positive my noose will work, and on top of that, if I'm dragging stepladders and flashlights into a forest, I'm not doing myself any favours for stealth. I thought a hotel room at night, locked doors, it might keep me secret long enough for no one to find me too quickly, but I see nothing can be easy, can it? Now I'm picturing that doorknob ripping right off. Maybe taking a chance on some SN I'm unsure of is the better gamble.
I want to do it in the woods too. I don't think you need a stepladder. My plan is to find a tree with a suitable branch at the right height, and then a camping stool is enough. Maybe a small plank of wood on top of it. These items are small enough. They can be carried in a bag too.

I plan to go to a location that is far enough from any inhabited areas. I'm concerned about being found too, I don't want to give it the slightest chance. If I need to hike for about an hour in order to get there, it's unlikely there will be another human being at night. Even if there is someone, I doubt they'll come up to me. Even using a flashlight wouldn't be a problem.

I plan to prepare everything in advance. Find a location, find a suitable tree, prepare the rope at home, everything. So I can just go there and do it quick and easy when the time comes. I'd just need to throw the rope over the branch, fix the other end to something, and I'm all set.

Regarding the door knob, I think you can test that. Put on the rope as you want it, grab it, pull it, bounce on it a few times. There are probably different kinds of door knobs, but some of them will definitely be strong enough in my opinion.
 
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You might want to go with full suspension of you really want it to work .
In my opinion partial hanging doesn't work or is really difficult to achieve and i think those famous celebs used drugs.
I feel like this is like the tenth time I've posted something like this on here, but full really isn't a good idea. The only difference is you can't back out if something goes wrong. It's way more likely to be extremely painful.
 
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I feel like this is like the tenth time I've posted something like this on here, but full really isn't a good idea. The only difference is you can't back out if something goes wrong. It's way more likely to be extremely painful.
It might be painful for a short amount of time. But the way I look at it, once I decide to kill myself, that pain will be the least of my concerns. I don't think it's more painful than kicking something by accident, and hitting your toe for example.

I understand that if you don't do it right, it can take a longer time. But on the other hand, I don't think it's difficult to do it right at all. There is not a whole lot to it. You just create a noose that allows the rope to tighten easily, place it on your neck below your adam's apple, relax your neck, and you fully commit on the first go. That's it. It'll be 5-10 seconds, and you're out.

I'm somewhat mechanically minded, so it sounds easy to me. For someone else, it may be different, I don't know...

You can read a lot of stories about failed attempts with partial hanging or SN, but almost none with full suspension. Not being able to back out is an advantage, not a bad thing in my opinion.
 
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It might be painful for a short amount of time. But the way I look at it, once I decide to kill myself, that pain will be the least of my concerns. I don't think it's more painful than kicking something by accident, and hitting your toe for example.

I understand that if you don't do it right, it can take a longer time. But on the other hand, I don't think it's difficult to do it right at all. There is not a whole lot to it. You just create a noose that allows the rope to tighten easily, place it on your neck below your adam's apple, relax your neck, and you fully commit on the first go. That's it. It'll be 5-10 seconds, and you're out.

I'm somewhat mechanically minded, so it sounds easy to me. For someone else, it may be different, I don't know...

You can read a lot of stories about failed attempts with partial hanging or SN, but almost none with full suspension. Not being able to back out is an advantage, not a bad thing in my opinion.
I have practiced a lot for partial, and I can tell you rope placement is not so simple. It's likely to end up cutting off your airway and crushing your trachea, meaning your final moments will be in agony. Partial attempts don't fail. People just give up because it's too painful / they're not ready. Something they wouldn't be given the choice to do if attempting with full.

It's your life (or death, really). I don't want to tell you what you should value. Maybe you don't really care if it's painful, and that's okay. But everyone who's considering full should know what they're getting into, and I'd guess most of the time they'd choose partial instead.

I know you mentioned being afraid of attempting with SN, but if not being able to back out is important to you, then I would really re-consider it. Almost all failed attempts didn't test their SN or didn't use Meto. I'd imagine the success rate of people who did both of those things is extremely high.

If you're still dead set on using full, I would at least make sure you can make yourself pass out with your rope just to know where on your neck it should sit, as it changes from person to person. It's likely to shift when you jump, but it's better than nothing.
 
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I have practiced a lot for partial, and I can tell you rope placement is not so simple. It's likely to end up cutting off your airway and crushing your trachea, meaning your final moments will be in agony. Partial attempts don't fail. People just give up because it's too painful / they're not ready. Something they wouldn't be given the choice to do if attempting with full.

It's your life (or death, really). I don't want to tell you what you should value. Maybe you don't really care if it's painful, and that's okay. But everyone who's considering full should know what they're getting into, and I'd guess most of the time they'd choose partial instead.

I know you mentioned being afraid of attempting with SN, but if not being able to back out is important to you, then I would really re-consider it. Almost all failed attempts didn't test their SN or didn't use Meto. I'd imagine the success rate of people who did both of those things is extremely high.

If you're still dead set on using full, I would at least make sure you can make yourself pass out with your rope just to know where on your neck it should sit, as it changes from person to person. It's likely to shift when you jump, but it's better than nothing.
What method of partial do you think is the best?
 
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What method of partial do you think is the best?
Kneeling with knees just off the ground is probably the easiest, but it needs a pretty high anchor point.

I'm planning on using a doorknob, so I'm using the sitting position in the middle with my back against the wall. It's a bit more awkward, but doorknobs are pretty common anchor points.
 

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Kneeling with knees just off the ground is probably the easiest, but it needs a pretty high anchor point.

I'm planning on using a doorknob, so I'm using the sitting position in the middle with my back against the wall. It's a bit more awkward, but doorknobs are pretty common anchor points.
Where would you place the rope, high on your neck or low? I've seen recommendations for both.
 
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Where would you place the rope, high on your neck or low? I've seen recommendations for both.
That's the real variable when it comes to partial. For me, it's right below my Adam's apple, but I only know that from practice and trial and error. You just need to get whatever rope you're planning to use and keep practicing until you find a place than makes you pass out consistently.
 
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I have practiced a lot for partial, and I can tell you rope placement is not so simple. It's likely to end up cutting off your airway and crushing your trachea, meaning your final moments will be in agony. Partial attempts don't fail. People just give up because it's too painful / they're not ready. Something they wouldn't be given the choice to do if attempting with full.

It's your life (or death, really). I don't want to tell you what you should value. Maybe you don't really care if it's painful, and that's okay. But everyone who's considering full should know what they're getting into, and I'd guess most of the time they'd choose partial instead.

I know you mentioned being afraid of attempting with SN, but if not being able to back out is important to you, then I would really re-consider it. Almost all failed attempts didn't test their SN or didn't use Meto. I'd imagine the success rate of people who did both of those things is extremely high.

If you're still dead set on using full, I would at least make sure you can make yourself pass out with your rope just to know where on your neck it should sit, as it changes from person to person. It's likely to shift when you jump, but it's better than nothing.
Thanks for your comments.

Well, yeah, I don't really care if it's painful, as long as it's only for 5-10-15 seconds. Longer than that, I wouldn't want.

I understand what you're saying, that it can end up being painful if the rope shifts, I don't pass out, or for whatever reason. However I did practice too, and it seems I can pass out quite quickly.

SN is out of the question for me, I just brought that up as an example. I definitely want hanging, and I'm quite set on full suspension. Not a big jump, but I don't want my feet to touch the ground or anything.

My problem with partial is that SI is a bitch, and your body will do everything to get out of there if there is a chance. And you can't do anything about it. I watched videos where people hang themselves, and even after seemingly going unconscious, their body will still kick, and their arms still try to reach for the rope, even though they have no strength to do it at that point.

Also, I've seen studies that analysed the thought process of suicide survivors, and the conclusion was that even the most determined, the ones who were fully committed and sure, still experience an immeasurable amount of fear and desire to live in the very last seconds. The key here is that it happens only in the last seconds, and you cannot do anything about it. It's an instinct that you cannot override.

I imagine this can vary from person to person, and some people are successful with partial, because they either pass out, or they are somehow able to override this instinct. But this is something that I cannot know in advance whether I'll be able to control, and I'm afraid of failure. With full suspension, this is not an issue.

The same problem with SN, it's not that the substance doesn't work, but people call an ambulance after they ingest it. Even when they were dead sure (pun intended) they wouldn't. Again, this is just an example, regardless of how effective it is, I wouldn't want SN anyway for other reasons.
 
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Now I'm picturing that doorknob ripping right off.
I only mentioned this because it is a possibility. It may not happen. Your weight of 275lbs is not exactly light. I don't know what kind of door it is. Is it a hollow core door?

Regarding the door knob, I think you can test that. Put on the rope as you want it, grab it, pull it, bounce on it a few times. There are probably different kinds of door knobs, but some of them will definitely be strong enough in my opinion.
Not meant in any way, shape, or form as a dig against Chinese people, but most of the stuff made in the last 15-20 years, or so, is Chinese, and honestly they don't make the best stuff. It's all made cheap on purpose to only last so long, including doorknobs. Older houses, say like form the 1920s and 1930s, have hardware on the doors that is so much better quality above what you can get today. Most of the original doorknobs in old houses, if the house was taken care of, is still working today. You will not experience doorknobs lasting 80, 90, 100 years with the cheap stuff made today.

That's it. It'll be 5-10 seconds, and you're out.
I don't know, but that seems really idealistic to me.
 
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Basically the reality of trying to CTB
(Survival Instinct not included)

Movie: The Rules of Attraction
 
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Thanks for your comments.

Well, yeah, I don't really care if it's painful, as long as it's only for 5-10-15 seconds. Longer than that, I wouldn't want.

I understand what you're saying, that it can end up being painful if the rope shifts, I don't pass out, or for whatever reason. However I did practice too, and it seems I can pass out quite quickly.

SN is out of the question for me, I just brought that up as an example. I definitely want hanging, and I'm quite set on full suspension. Not a big jump, but I don't want my feet to touch the ground or anything.

My problem with partial is that SI is a bitch, and your body will do everything to get out of there if there is a chance. And you can't do anything about it. I watched videos where people hang themselves, and even after seemingly going unconscious, their body will still kick, and their arms still try to reach for the rope, even though they have no strength to do it at that point.

Also, I've seen studies that analysed the thought process of suicide survivors, and the conclusion was that even the most determined, the ones who were fully committed and sure, still experience an immeasurable amount of fear and desire to live in the very last seconds. The key here is that it happens only in the last seconds, and you cannot do anything about it. It's an instinct that you cannot override.

I imagine this can vary from person to person, and some people are successful with partial, because they either pass out, or they are somehow able to override this instinct. But this is something that I cannot know in advance whether I'll be able to control, and I'm afraid of failure. With full suspension, this is not an issue.

The same problem with SN, it's not that the substance doesn't work, but people call an ambulance after they ingest it. Even when they were dead sure (pun intended) they wouldn't. Again, this is just an example, regardless of how effective it is, I wouldn't want SN anyway for other reasons.
You really seem to know what you want, and I won't tell you otherwise. To me, the idea of changing my mind last second and not being able stop sounds terrifying, but maybe you're right. Maybe that's just an inevitability, and we'll only ever be able to go through with it if we lock ourselves in with a way we can't come back from.

I really wanted to hang myself in a forest too, but I can only leave a few days of food for my cats, so I want to make sure I'm found within a day so my family can come get them. It does sound way more peaceful than the bathroom of Days Inn, but oh well. I hope it's as peaceful as it sounds for you.
 
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I feel like this is like the tenth time I've posted something like this on here, but full really isn't a good idea. The only difference is you can't back out if something goes wrong. It's way more likely to be extremely painful.
How will someone back out from Partial ?
You're saying quiting before loosing consciousness in Partial is backing out ?
 
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How will someone back out from Partial ?
You're saying quiting before loosing consciousness in Partial is backing out ?
Yes. The rope can land in a position that is extremely painful and not conducive to passing out quickly. In partial, you can just get back up and adjust the rope. In full, you're spending your final moments in pain.
 
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Yes. The rope can land in a position that is extremely painful and not conducive to passing out quickly. In partial, you can just get back up and adjust the rope. In full, you're spending your final moments in pain.
In partial. I would not consider rope landing in the wrong position and the person getting back up to adjust as an attempt.

Have you passed out yourself from attempting partial ? And how did you manage to back out .. did you come back to consciousness and get up ?
 
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In partial. I would not consider rope landing in the wrong position and the person getting back up to adjust as an attempt.

Have you passed out yourself from attempting partial ? And how did you manage to back out .. did you come back to consciousness and get up ?
I'm kind of confused what you mean. It doesn't matter whether or not it's an attempt. I just mean you can stop and readjust rope placement if something isn't working. I've practiced quite a bit, and it still takes me a few tries to find the sweet spot.

Finding it on your first try and keeping it there as you fall from a height, no matter how small, is very unlikely in my opinion.
 
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What i mean is did you pass out ? Did you loose consciousness ?

What do you mean by sweet spot ? Is the sweet spot the placement where you lost consciousness ?
 
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I really wanted to hang myself in a forest too, but I can only leave a few days of food for my cats, so I want to make sure I'm found within a day so my family can come get them. It does sound way more peaceful than the bathroom of Days Inn, but oh well. I hope it's as peaceful as it sounds for you.
The forest is peaceful, but not as peaceful as I hoped for. While thinking about what I'm planning to do, I just can't appreciate it. I went and checked multiple locations, and I feel like no matter how beautiful they are, the sadness and feeling of emptiness just takes over. In the end, it doesn't matter. It'll just live in the memories of some people, like "that's where he did it", and that's about it.

But still, I want it to be somewhat tasteful and graceful, and I don't want to do it in my home. From this perspective, a hotel room is fine too, but I'd be afraid of someone checking on me if they hear strange noises.

Regarding the cat problem, have you thought about sending scheduled emails? I don't have pets, but that's my plan.
 

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