Therapy is useless glad SS exists

[fayth2567]

Hi,
Just got off a zoom meeting with my therapist. Trying to work through my Suicidal thoughts and he pretty much made me fill out a worksheet and said " Have you tried thinking about something else like your family, during those thoughts?" All that does is guilt me and make me feel trapped. I'm glad SS exists so I don't feel that I am the only one with suicidal thoughts. God therapy doesn't help but its part of my mental health treatment and insurance covers it.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I agree it's nice to be able to talk with others who know how it feels to be depressed and suicidal, but keep in mind that the talking done here is not therapy and will most likely never get you to the root cause of your issues and, hopefully, cure them. If you want to be helped, you most likely need therapy. If you don't want help, or any more help, then this is the place to be. The nice thing about being pro-choice is that you can choose to die or not choose to die, as opposed to the anti-choice side that wants to force you to live no matter what. Only you can make the best decision for you.

 

[bed]

Sounds like a shit therapist like most of them are. It's hard to find a good one, I've been to quite a lot of different types of therapy and therapists and have never found a good one. There was one where I was allowed to openly speak about my suicidal thoughts and prospects of wanting to apply for MAiD but that's as close as I ever got. Even with them, the therapy was subpar at best. Sometimes I wonder if they can even help at all, sure doesn't feel like it if you have more than surface-level issues. Also doesn't help that a lot of the therapists are still doing virtual meetings which are even worse ime than in person. As well as most therapies are time-limited which i don't think is ideal for covering a lot of long-term issues. There are so many factors out of our control that you are just forced to "cope" with or ignore and pretend everything is fine...I hate it.

 

[theboy]

free euthanasia now

 

[Superdeterminist]

Therapy for happiness is like a band-aid for an axe wound. No words, especially not those from a paid stranger, can remedy the wicked cruelties of life.

 

[almaranthine]

I really don't understand why your therapist would try to treat your suicidal ideation by guilting you to think about the family members you would leave behind... as if you've never considered that yourself. It floors me that these people are paid so well to give such shit advice.

 

[makethepainstop]

free euthanasia now

And because I am such a kindly and true gentleman, I shall be glad to test the method first!

 

[conflagration]

I was closest to CTB after 5 months stationary group therapy, which I can only describe as brainwashing. I went out in a much worse state that I had come in.
In my case, therapy is useless at best and harmful at worst. Therapist themselves are mainly narcissists who got into the field because they wanted to fix their issues and because they want to feel superior to and in control of their patients. This whole theory that there are some suppressed emotions that linger forever till you relive them is completely bogus. Most people I know from my group therapy are still going to therapy, they claim that it is helping, yet they still deal with same problems over and over again. I think they just need some false hope that in some distant future they will be finally cured.

 

[Unending]

I seriously hate these infantilizing notions that are commonly encountered when attempting to seek help. I have tried so hard to be understanding of therapists, psychiatrists, and other general staff at mental institutions when they come up short but whether it is intentional or not, I feel as though they lack common respect when they start with all this "Have you tried counting your breaths?" or "Have you tried drawing a pretty picture when you are thinking of dying?" type stuff. It feels like suggesting plan A to someone who has already moved through the alphabet multiple times with Plan B, C, D, and so forth.

 

[FuneralCry]

That therapy sounds anything but helpful. I don't even understand how someone saying just think of something else could help in anyway or change anything. Wanting suicide can certainly be a perfectly rational response to existing in this world and to me it makes sense to want to die. The way that I see it, those who view this as being a wrong and irrational way to feel are certainly deluded. Words are all so empty and meaningless to me, they could never solve anything.

 

[makethepainstop]

I think I would go mad if I couldn't be here. This is therapy, given to people, by other people like them. There are some here I like as friends. Some here hurt worse some less, but we all do hurt.

 

[Rogue Proxy]

I really don't understand why your therapist would try to treat your suicidal ideation by guilting you to think about the family members you would leave behind...

Two words: behavior modification. Guilt is one of the most common tactics humans use to control, manipulate, and exploit other members of their species. Mental health enforcers pride themselves as masterful manipulators, using every trick up their sleeves to prevent anyone from ending their lives, and in turn, molding the individual into a compliant, obedient, and useful servant for their assigned in-group(s) (e.g. family, friends, community, country, place of employment, ect.). The true motives of mental health enforcers isn't about reducing, eliminating, or preventing suffering. Otherwise, they would respect, support, and guild the individual's choice to a peaceful and painless end.

 

[UtopianElephant]

Two words: behavior modification. Guilt is one of the most common tactics humans use to control, manipulate, and exploit other members of their species. Mental health enforcers pride themselves as masterful manipulators, using every trick up their sleeves to prevent anyone from ending their lives, and in turn, molding the individual into a compliant, obedient, and useful servant for their assigned in-group(s) (e.g. family, friends, community, country, place of employment, ect.). The true motives of mental health enforcers isn't about reducing, eliminating, or preventing suffering. Otherwise, they would respect, support, and guild the individual's choice to a peaceful and painless end.

wow, what a fantastic paragraph!

 

[Doom]

therapy only works on normies. For someone whose mind is badly damaged, it's a waste of time.

 

[Scriptchick55]

I agree 100%. I'm a highly sensitive person going into therapy each time has been extremely risky for me. Once I feel disrespected, disregarded, and I feel the therapist or psychiatrist has insulted my intelligence I can no longer view them in the high regard I had before. The majority of mental health workers lack accountability and some things that were just a misunderstanding and something I very much would have just accepted a "sorry" and moved on, they would unfortunately drop the ball on that. If they know your self esteem is low, they will always make you feel like it's just you being sensitive. I may be sensitive I would say extremely at times but I'm smart enough to know when a mental health worker is talking down to me, insulting my intelligence giving up on me, being condescending and just overall not a good therapist or even a decent human for that matter.

 

[Wannagonow]

I don't know if therapy is totally useless. Maybe it is. I've had 2 different therapists close their practice in past year. Now I have a new woman who only does telehealth. She doesn't have the benefit of seeing my body language when I outright lie to her. Yeah. I lie. I've had cops sent to my house by a therapist because I was close to being honest with her after 5 years. So...in my case, since I don't feel I can be honest, I guess therapy is pretty useless. I've got trust issues. Lol. I do therapy because my doctor and my insurance say I need too.

 

[Fulminare]

I agree. I've had some pretty gnarly experiences with therapists in my life, although the most recent one was decent. But I felt like I was just lying. Lying in order to protect my financial well being and to not be sent to a facility.

How can you open up to a stranger entirely when you know they can report you to the authorities without any issues? It made me feel paranoid. But even if you take that issue out of the equation - I felt like the advice they gave me was something I've heard a thousand times before.

I think mental health professionals are certainly of help when it comes to people who are going through a recent heartbreak. But what about bigger concerns? I don't know. For me it was just a waste of time and money.