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drune11

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Mar 26, 2021
63
Everyone on the outside gives the same advice "why don't you focus on something else?" "you'll find love when you least expect it" "you have to be happy with yourself first" "why don't you focus on your career?" "why don't you get some hobbies" "you'll never get anyone with that mindset"

There is either a complete blindness to, or worse, a denial of the realities of chronic loneliness. It's easy to dispel advice when you have found love, or at least have no problem finding intimacy. When you are continuously alone, for years at a time, with not so much as hand to hold for even a second, the world is entirely different. There is no consolation or alleviation of the anguish. You, with your wife, and children, have never stepped foot into this world. You have not had to consider with any seriousness, for even a moment, that love may allude some people their entire life. You haven't had to consider whether or not a fulfilling life is possible in that circumstance.

You haven't seen your goodness need to withstand the brutalities of isolation and fight with every last fiber, every single day, to remain. You can pretend that the universe sorts everything out right, ignoring the chronically lonely, just as first worlders ignore the plight of the starving third world. What exactly is being sorted out correctly? Turn your eye, if it is even possible, to the realities of agony that the alone face. Foreveralone is a meme for you, a decade gone by since it's hay day in culture, but for me, it was nothing light or jovial. For me, it was, it is my life. Never a meaningful connection with another, never the fantasies of love and bliss appearing real.

I know you have no answers, that you don't want to consider the ugly reality of my solitude. I know even if you wanted to, you could never understand the damage that has done physically and psychologically to me throughout the years. It's not just the big disappointments, but also the small ones, the ones that were brushed off, but still laid a thorn into me, and now, cumulatively they have left me ensnared, scarred, and hopeless. The memories that should be such minutia, that it would be hard for me to recall them all, let alone ever explain them all, all have ruined me. The anchors I have in my mind - how nearly everywhere I go, every thought I have, somehow is involuntarily connected to someone that I had hoped would share their heart with me. How I look at my boots and think of the time I bought polish for them 6 years ago from a store that is on the corner of the street where they attend Church when they are back visiting their family. How absurd it is to make such a connection between two places, miles apart, with no connection to any one memory. How haunting it is to live everyday with such spontaneous stabbings.

All I wished for was peace, normalcy, to hit developmentally healthy milestones in a somewhat typical timeframe. Instead what I got from life was unanswered questions, endless frustrations, and a decade of Depression. And now hopeless, drifting about, watching every hour, day, month, year, pass by without the Renaissance of my life that I had hoped for, you advise me to just focus on something else, as if I was willingly putting myself through this brutality.
 
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Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
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I have spoken to people who have told me "money is nothing" and I just laugh internally, because they don't realise what a torture it is to be without it. I think it's true that once you have money that other issues become the focus of your worry so money doesn't occupy your mind, but it's still true that when you don't have enough of it, you are entirely consumed by that lacking.
 
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drune11

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Mar 26, 2021
63
I have spoken to people who have told me "money is nothing" and I just laugh internally, because they don't realise what a torture it is to be without it. I think it's true that once you have money that other issues become the focus of your worry so money doesn't occupy your mind, but it's still true that when you don't have enough of it, you are entirely consumed by that lacking.
It's always people with money saying that. Money can't buy happiness, but it helps to not have to worry about it all the time. Or another good one is "as long as you have your health (insert reason for being optimistic here). Sure, but I don't have that, look at my brain.
 
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erdbeeren

Student
Oct 13, 2021
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I have spoken to people who have told me "money is nothing" and I just laugh internally, because they don't realise what a torture it is to be without it. I think it's true that once you have money that other issues become the focus of your worry so money doesn't occupy your mind, but it's still true that when you don't have enough of it, you are entirely consumed by that lacking.
I think that when at least some people say "money is worthless" they refer to the fact that society has given a number so much value over everyone and everything.

Anything used as a currency will dictate the lives of people. They only way "money can't buy happiness" is if it doesn't exist at all (i.e. loses its value).
 
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xianv111

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Oct 15, 2021
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I know I cannot help you, but i just wish you the best and send a virtual hug! What you're saying deeply resonates with me. One can get so frustrated by the advice of people who clearly have never experienced even a small fraction of your problems, therefore it's impossible for them to even shallowly understand. They cannot comprehend that when you're in a state of loneliness - it consumes you, making it harder with every day to reach out as you lose your abilities to connect with other people. People surrounded by bunch of friends most of the time have an easier time meeting others. The opposite is true by analogy - the lonelier you are - the easier it is to become secluded completely.
There is either a complete blindness to, or worse, a denial of the realities of chronic loneliness. It's easy to dispel advice when you have found love, or at least have no problem finding intimacy. When you are continuously alone, for years at a time, with not so much as hand to hold for even a second, the world is entirely different. There is no consolation or alleviation of the anguish.
 
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Crimsonghost3

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Nov 14, 2021
79
I wish more people understood the profound effects of loneliness and the paralyzing nature it can cause in our minds. Nothing helps without the connections. I have been alone so long I don't know how not to be. Even when talking to myself I'll shut myself down and isolate. Nobody really talks about how much it can take from you you become a ghost to the world long before you're dead. You watch everyone else form connections do activities have tales of life while you are outside never to feel what they do. You just become a shell
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,369
Many people are delusional, they are blind to the true horrors of life and how bad things can really get as they are lucky enough to be in a position where they have not suffered to a great extent. Of course people can only really understand what they have been through themselves. Therefore it can come across as invalidating the persons suffering when others give them platitude filled advice. Overall life is very unfair and many people are disadvantaged through no fault of their own, that is why I see it as better to never be born in the first place. I know loneliness can be painful for so many people.
 
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Rational man

Rational man

Enlightened
Oct 19, 2021
1,485
It's always people with money saying that. Money can't buy happiness, but it helps to not have to worry about it all the time. Or another good one is "as long as you have your health (insert reason for being optimistic here). Sure, but I don't have that, look at my brain.
People often judge us by their own standards which includes quoting soundbites that feeds into the rhetorical ' empathy ' , mode.. It s all false of course but ive met some miserable wealthy people!. I just wish I had good health to enjoy life just a little.
 
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hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
508
Everyone on the outside gives the same advice "why don't you focus on something else?" "you'll find love when you least expect it" "you have to be happy with yourself first" "why don't you focus on your career?" "why don't you get some hobbies" "you'll never get anyone with that mindset"

There is either a complete blindness to, or worse, a denial of the realities of chronic loneliness. It's easy to dispel advice when you have found love, or at least have no problem finding intimacy. When you are continuously alone, for years at a time, with not so much as hand to hold for even a second, the world is entirely different. There is no consolation or alleviation of the anguish. You, with your wife, and children, have never stepped foot into this world. You have not had to consider with any seriousness, for even a moment, that love may allude some people their entire life. You haven't had to consider whether or not a fulfilling life is possible in that circumstance.

You haven't seen your goodness need to withstand the brutalities of isolation and fight with every last fiber, every single day, to remain. You can pretend that the universe sorts everything out right, ignoring the chronically lonely, just as first worlders ignore the plight of the starving third world. What exactly is being sorted out correctly? Turn your eye, if it is even possible, to the realities of agony that the alone face. Foreveralone is a meme for you, a decade gone by since it's hay day in culture, but for me, it was nothing light or jovial. For me, it was, it is my life. Never a meaningful connection with another, never the fantasies of love and bliss appearing real.

I know you have no answers, that you don't want to consider the ugly reality of my solitude. I know even if you wanted to, you could never understand the damage that has done physically and psychologically to me throughout the years. It's not just the big disappointments, but also the small ones, the ones that were brushed off, but still laid a thorn into me, and now, cumulatively they have left me ensnared, scarred, and hopeless. The memories that should be such minutia, that it would be hard for me to recall them all, let alone ever explain them all, all have ruined me. The anchors I have in my mind - how nearly everywhere I go, every thought I have, somehow is involuntarily connected to someone that I had hoped would share their heart with me. How I look at my boots and think of the time I bought polish for them 6 years ago from a store that is on the corner of the street where they attend Church when they are back visiting their family. How absurd it is to make such a connection between two places, miles apart, with no connection to any one memory. How haunting it is to live everyday with such spontaneous stabbings.

All I wished for was peace, normalcy, to hit developmentally healthy milestones in a somewhat typical timeframe. Instead what I got from life was unanswered questions, endless frustrations, and a decade of Depression. And now hopeless, drifting about, watching every hour, day, month, year, pass by without the Renaissance of my life that I had hoped for, you advise me to just focus on something else, as if I was willingly putting myself through this brutality.
Thank you for your words. This is what I feel around most people. Especially around my psychiatrists. It feels like I'm an alien in their office. A wolf in sheeps clothes.
 
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Rational man

Rational man

Enlightened
Oct 19, 2021
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Everyone on the outside gives the same advice "why don't you focus on something else?" "you'll find love when you least expect it" "you have to be happy with yourself first" "why don't you focus on your career?" "why don't you get some hobbies" "you'll never get anyone with that mindset"

There is either a complete blindness to, or worse, a denial of the realities of chronic loneliness. It's easy to dispel advice when you have found love, or at least have no problem finding intimacy. When you are continuously alone, for years at a time, with not so much as hand to hold for even a second, the world is entirely different. There is no consolation or alleviation of the anguish. You, with your wife, and children, have never stepped foot into this world. You have not had to consider with any seriousness, for even a moment, that love may allude some people their entire life. You haven't had to consider whether or not a fulfilling life is possible in that circumstance.

You haven't seen your goodness need to withstand the brutalities of isolation and fight with every last fiber, every single day, to remain. You can pretend that the universe sorts everything out right, ignoring the chronically lonely, just as first worlders ignore the plight of the starving third world. What exactly is being sorted out correctly? Turn your eye, if it is even possible, to the realities of agony that the alone face. Foreveralone is a meme for you, a decade gone by since it's hay day in culture, but for me, it was nothing light or jovial. For me, it was, it is my life. Never a meaningful connection with another, never the fantasies of love and bliss appearing real.

I know you have no answers, that you don't want to consider the ugly reality of my solitude. I know even if you wanted to, you could never understand the damage that has done physically and psychologically to me throughout the years. It's not just the big disappointments, but also the small ones, the ones that were brushed off, but still laid a thorn into me, and now, cumulatively they have left me ensnared, scarred, and hopeless. The memories that should be such minutia, that it would be hard for me to recall them all, let alone ever explain them all, all have ruined me. The anchors I have in my mind - how nearly everywhere I go, every thought I have, somehow is involuntarily connected to someone that I had hoped would share their heart with me. How I look at my boots and think of the time I bought polish for them 6 years ago from a store that is on the corner of the street where they attend Church when they are back visiting their family. How absurd it is to make such a connection between two places, miles apart, with no connection to any one memory. How haunting it is to live everyday with such spontaneous stabbings.

All I wished for was peace, normalcy, to hit developmentally healthy milestones in a somewhat typical timeframe. Instead what I got from life was unanswered questions, endless frustrations, and a decade of Depression. And now hopeless, drifting about, watching every hour, day, month, year, pass by without the Renaissance of my life that I had hoped for, you advise me to just focus on something else, as if I was willingly putting myself through this brutality.
There's lots of people around you who seem okay with dishing out their views, maybe well meaning, but can i ask a question

Do you know YOU.?

I mean do YOU really know what you need to bring ' normal ' into your life. You see, i don't get normal but this crops up often in conversations. What I see as ' normal ' terrifies me. As a gay / bisexual man I suppose normal was always on the horizon but i was able to find some inner happiness.

Anyways, hope you find YOUR pathway !? I dont mean to be rude !🐱😥
 
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Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
2,160
It's always people with money saying that. Money can't buy happiness, but it helps to not have to worry about it all the time. Or another good one is "as long as you have your health (insert reason for being optimistic here). Sure, but I don't have that, look at my brain.
Exactly… Besides these days everybody seems to be worrying about money even rich people… The world going insane… I want off please
 
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Romeo1984

Romeo must die
Oct 6, 2021
58
I can speak for myself. I have money and I am not happy. Before you think I always had money, I definitely didn't. I was born poor and could miss him in life. I agree that having money makes you more relaxed to deal with other things. But in my case, I lost my wife (she died) I would give all my fucking money and equity to get her back. Even if I had all the money in the world I couldn't get her back and have the happiness and will to live that I had before. I totally agree, people say because they don't know the hell that each of us lives. Some of us suffer from lack of love, loneliness. Having some money will not necessarily bring you love. (Does a prostitute love you or your money? Will you be surrounded by true friends or self-interested people?). Money helps (a lot), but it doesn't solve all problems. At the end of our journey, we won't take a penny away.
 
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Soapie

I hope we all can heal from this
Mar 26, 2021
85
i get what you mean. loneliness can cut like a sword. its so horrible. i think people who have been able to connect physically and emotionally in a ver y intimate way with people have this tendency to take it for granted. its such a gift. human beings are designed for affection in one way or another. connection keeps us s going. im so sorry you've had to go this far in this state. you deserve love, we all do. remember that throughout this you are a goodperson. you are a good good person
 
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Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

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Sep 12, 2021
1,315
Thank you for your words. This is what I feel around most people. Especially around my psychiatrists. It feels like I'm an alien in their office. A wolf in sheeps clothes.
Mental health enforcers like psychiatrists are the real wolves in sheep's clothing, especially when those predators tear up your psyche with their judgements, intimidation, threatening, belittling, shaming, gaslighting, mockery, blaming, controlling behavior, ignorance, egotism, and overall lack of empathy, compassion, and respect. As the saying goes: "You can't spell 'therapist' without 'the rapist'."
 
looseye

looseye

A boring person.
Oct 27, 2021
187
This is the most relatable post I have ever come across online so far. It shows me that there actually ARE people who feel the same way, and who face the same naïve, uncomprehending responses from literally everybody they talk to in real life. Sometimes trying to communicate what long-term loneliness does to you feels about as sensible as trying to explain the color red to a blind person. It's really pointless, isn't it
 
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