The police came yesterday

[Marktheghost]

This won't be a particularly exciting story, I just felt like talking about it though. And who better to talk to about it than the sanctioned suicide community?
I'd e-mailed someone on Thursday, and told her I'm going to kill myself. I think she phoned a hospital, and the hospital phoned the police. The NHS is great isn't it? They don't bother to help you themselves; they just contact the police.
So the police came. They asked me what I was going to poison myself with; I said poison. They asked what poison; I said I'd rather not tell them. They asked me to show them the poison, and said they couldn't legally take it off me. I played safe and didn't show it to them. I think I admitted that I'd got poison in the flat but didn't say where in the flat. After asking me a few questions, they phoned a hospital, and I spoke to a nurse on the phone. I told her I'm planning on poisoning myself, but didn't tell her what poison I've got. Basically she did nothing to help me.
The police asked me if I'd be all right. I said no. They said they had other calls to go to and couldn't stay here. And they left.
So basically the NHS phoned the police, and the police phoned the NHS. Why not cut out the middle man? What was the point of getting the police involved at all? Why didn't the hospital contact the hospital in the first place? It seems completely pointless. It seems like they just wanted to pass the buck and aren't interested in helping me. Maybe I should contact the police and suggest they prosecute the hospital for wasting police time.
So, predictably, the hospital did nothing, and the police did nothing. Despite the fact that they know I've got a plan and a weapon. So why did they bother to do anything at all? It was a waste of time. And now I'm going to die anyway probably within the next 2 weeks. So what was the point?

 

[sadworld]

The police asked me if I'd be all right. I said no. They said they had other calls to go to and couldn't stay here. And they left.

That's weird, you told them that but they still left?

I was pretty sure that you would go to the psych ward after everything you said to them...

 

[mimiopo22]

sorry, people are useless. all. all are included.
what are you going to use?

 

[Gromit-CTB]

If you need a buddy I am always around to ctb with.

 

[Sherri]

Sorry to hear that, never share your thoughts with anyone I would say. That friend was prob thinking it was helping you. But maybe some thoughts should be kept with ourselves unless you trust the person that much. I hope they didn't put you on suicide watch.

 

[botanormal]

That is incredibly messed up, I'm so sorry you had to go through that. It wouldn't have been good for them to try and stop you, but you'd at least expect some kind of help. The system is so heartless, even after directly expressing your intentions to ctb, your needs are still neglected. You didn't deserve to be messed around like that, I hope it wasn't too painful of an experience. I'm glad you could share this with us, it really does go to show how god awful the system is. I'm wishing you all the best.

 

[profoundexperience]

They asked me to show them the poison, and said they couldn't legally take it off me. I played safe and didn't show it to them.

the hospital did nothing, and the police did nothing. Despite the fact that they know I've got a plan and a weapon. So why did they bother to do anything at all? It was a waste of time.

In the end they left you alone. (Which was what you wanted, right? But maybe I'm wrong about that...?)

Would you have preferred something different to happen instead? If so, what would have been the most helpful thing to happen for you...?

 

[Weary Soul]

I am still shocked by how suicide is handled in different countries.

In my country, I would have been sectioned just based on the phone call.

You said:

"So why did they bother to do anything at all? It was a waste of time. And now I'm going to die anyway probably within the next 2 weeks. So what was the point?"

I am guessing that the police and hospitals are required to do something by law in the event a report of potential suicide is made - kinda a cover their butt mode. If this is true or something like this is true, it is so very cold IMO. But, it is total speculation on my part.

Hope you are doing ok all things considered.

<3

 

[WornOutLife]

Woah that sounds too extreme but I agree, NHS and police are useless.
Here in Argentina, you would've ended up in a psych ward. (which is not helpful at all and only makes things worse)

 

[Acopia]

I've been on both sides of this.
A friend will think they are helping you by phoning authorities with the best of intentions. At the end of the day the authorities do very little to help, it's sad really. Nowhere to turn, even if you genuinely want someone to save you.
I'm sorry.
- A.

 

[Good4Nothing]

Too bad you don't live in the USA. Police here are notorious for gunning down mentally troubled people. They would have come to your house, shot you dead, and your worries would be over.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

That's weird, you told them that but they still left?

I was pretty sure that you would go to the psych ward after everything you said to them...

Not in the UK. The NHS doesn't work like that. If you were to tell them you were going to harm/kill someone else, that would be a different matter.

However, I'm getting the impression that the OP is crying out for help rather than wanting to ctb.

 

[sadworld]

Not in the UK. The NHS doesn't work like that. If you were to tell them you were going to harm/kill someone else, that would be a different matter.

However, I'm getting the impression that the OP is crying out for help rather than wanting to ctb.

Okay, thank you!
The police never visited me.

 

[Meditation guide]

This won't be a particularly exciting story, I just felt like talking about it though. And who better to talk to about it than the sanctioned suicide community?
I'd e-mailed someone on Thursday, and told her I'm going to kill myself. I think she phoned a hospital, and the hospital phoned the police. The NHS is great isn't it? They don't bother to help you themselves; they just contact the police.
So the police came. They asked me what I was going to poison myself with; I said poison. They asked what poison; I said I'd rather not tell them. They asked me to show them the poison, and said they couldn't legally take it off me. I played safe and didn't show it to them. I think I admitted that I'd got poison in the flat but didn't say where in the flat. After asking me a few questions, they phoned a hospital, and I spoke to a nurse on the phone. I told her I'm planning on poisoning myself, but didn't tell her what poison I've got. Basically she did nothing to help me.
The police asked me if I'd be all right. I said no. They said they had other calls to go to and couldn't stay here. And they left.
So basically the NHS phoned the police, and the police phoned the NHS. Why not cut out the middle man? What was the point of getting the police involved at all? Why didn't the hospital contact the hospital in the first place? It seems completely pointless. It seems like they just wanted to pass the buck and aren't interested in helping me. Maybe I should contact the police and suggest they prosecute the hospital for wasting police time.
So, predictably, the hospital did nothing, and the police did nothing. Despite the fact that they know I've got a plan and a weapon. So why did they bother to do anything at all? It was a waste of time. And now I'm going to die anyway probably within the next 2 weeks. So what was the point?

Sorry you went through that! They are just doing their jobs. The hospitals are full right now so they are not keen on taking on new patients. They have to give space to the sickest individuals and reject the rest. You have to be almost dead to be admitted right now.

 

[Gnip]

Too bad you don't live in the USA. Police here are notorious for gunning down mentally troubled people. They would have come to your house, shot you dead, and your worries would be over.

Did you see the Ronnie McNutt suicide clip, where after he shot himself, the police barged in with rifles in hand, apparently disappointed they had nobody to shoot?

 

[Mr blobby]

I'm so sorry to hear that. Yes the NHS is notoriously garbage. Here's another story (don't mean to steal your thread)

One of my family members called 111 because they were feeling under the weather and wanted some medical advice. After going through the questions over the phone according to their criteria, they somehow came to the conclusion that it was a medical emergency. So they sent out an ambulance. Paramedics came, done some tests, filled some forms and determined there was nothing serious going on and nothing they could do. They left and told us to ring 111 and go through the questions again. Smh. Welcome to UK

 

[greebo6]

The system doesn't really work anymore here in U.K .Its broken.

 

[Meditation guide]

Usually a family member such as the mother calls the police because the son is threatening to commit suicide and the police come to the house and shoot him dead in a hail of gunfire. They get to take some time off with pay when they do that.

I had a roomate go crazy and sat on the bathroom floor not moving for several days after he stopped taking his meds, and we had twelve cops standing in the living room and they had blocked off all the roads leading to the house not allowing any traffic, apparently hoping to shoot him. Somehow after trying to talk to him for half an hour, the medics got him loaded onto a stretcher strapped down and they carried him out but he mysteriously went into a coma when he was delivered to the hospital and died after that. He went into a coma in the ambulance for some reason.

 

[Ghost2211]

I am amazed that you said all that and that they just left. I'm in the US and I had to make a pretty convincing case that I am not a threat to myself before they would leave. They stayed here for like two hours and hung out with the kids, and then they made a crisis team come talk to me, which by the way they sent me a bill for the crisis team coming against my will.... but yeah I had to make it super clear and prove my innocence in like 1000 different ways to not be taken away.

still, I'm glad to hear that you didn't get taken against your will. None of us deserve that.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

The help that people say you should reach out for consists of someone passing the problem onto someone else who then passes it back to the original bunch. It's pass the parcel and when the music stops, your soul is forfeit. Been there. I'm sorry you are there now. If only there really existed the help that people urge us to get.

 

[Weary Soul]

... sent me a bill for the crisis team coming against my will....

Oi - so typical of the US and the outrageous cost of healthcare. I was in a hospital bed for 2 days after a tonic-clonic seizure (Grand Mal seizure), they did nothing but give me ibuprofen. The bill? $13k. The worst part? They caused the seizure because they gave me a medication that was contraindicated for the condition I was there for.

It is sad to see so many go through either inadequate care or over the top care.

<3

 

[Ghost2211]

Oi - so typical of the US and the outrageous cost of healthcare. I was in a hospital bed for 2 days after a tonic-clonic seizure (Grand Mal seizure), they did nothing but give me ibupforen. The bill? $13k. The worst part? They caused the seizure because they gave me a medication that was contraindicated for the condition I was there for.

It is sad to see so many go through either inadequate care or over the top care.

<3

That's pretty outrageous, and yet not surprising at all. The crisis team coming out here cost $400, but they reduced it to 30 something due to the fact that I'm disabled with low income. I told him I shouldn't have to pay this bill because I didn't ask for want or need the services, and they said it's counted as emergency services which means they can give you service without your permission and bill you. The American healthcare system is such BS.

 

[Meditation guide]

I paid about $300 for a ten mile ambulance ride to the hospital.

 

[virginiawoolf86]

Did you see the Ronnie McNutt suicide clip, where after he shot himself, the police barged in with rifles in hand, apparently disappointed they had nobody to shoot?

Just watched it. That f*cked me up more than I thought it would.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

The system doesn't really work anymore here in U.K .

The NHS, mental health sector is drowning under the strain, especially with the effects of lock down.

 

[HenryHobkins]

i am very, very surprised they didn't involuntarily hospitalize or psych ward you

 

[x~Sophia~x]

I am amazed that you said all that and that they just left. I'm in the US and I had to make a pretty convincing case that I am not a threat to myself before they would leave. They stayed here for like two hours and hung out with the kids, and then they made a crisis team come talk to me, which by the way they sent me a bill for the crisis team coming against my will.... but yeah I had to make it super clear and prove my innocence in like 1000 different ways to not be taken away.

still, I'm glad to hear that you didn't get taken against your will. None of us deserve that.

You should move to the UK, they don't do anything here, even if you tell them how, where and when... they tell you to have a nice warm bath and try some distraction techniques. :(

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

these are the reasons you have to be very secretive about suicide in general. sorry you had to deal with that.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

I am amazed that you said all that and that they just left. I'm in the US and I had to make a pretty convincing case that I am not a threat to myself before they would leave. They stayed here for like two hours and hung out with the kids, and then they made a crisis team come talk to me, which by the way they sent me a bill for the crisis team coming against my will.... but yeah I had to make it super clear and prove my innocence in like 1000 different ways to not be taken away.

still, I'm glad to hear that you didn't get taken against your will. None of us deserve that.

You should move to the UK, they don't do anything here, even if you tell them how, where and when... they tell you to have a nice warm bath and try some distraction methods. :

i am very, very surprised they didn't involuntarily hospitalize or psych ward you

Nah, not in the UK, unless you threaten to kill someone else.

 

[Raminiki]

You should move to the UK, they don't do anything here, even if you tell them how, where and when... they tell you to have a nice warm bath and try some distraction techniques. :(

Truer words have not been spoken.