Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[Dracace]

some notes from my personal experience:

I've tried using gorilla tape but I doubt it has the ability to apply enough pressure, and I've found that adding new layers on top of each other is completely useless

Not all ratchets exert the same pressure or are made of the same material, and it is advisable to check that the maximum pressure it can exert is around 3 kg of force.

for the padding, even just a couple of folded 10x10 cm t-shirts positioned in the right place are enough.

what I've noticed makes the biggest difference is not so much the position of the padding, but the position of the tape above it, as this is what ultimately causes the compression in the beginning. Also the head of the rachet must be on the back of the neck, pulling inward on the throat.

On a personal level my problem lies in not finding the exact compression point. I'm sure I could compress the trachea if I wanted, but personally the only positive aspect of this method is that it avoids the decrease in oxygen in the blood below the neck circulation while managing to cause fainting at the same time.

I'm seriously thinking of jumping if I can't do it with this method, but I need to find out first a sufficient height.

 

[Nero999]

There have been questions asked about successful attempts with the Night Night Method.

The only thing I can add to this is that a very loose aquantence of mine ctb about 4 years ago. I asked a good friend of mine who knew him a lot better aboiut what method he used and the response was ratchet straps around his neck. No more detail than that and I did think oucha as I assumed he had managed to strangle himself as I didn't know about the NN method back then.

However after reading this thread I can only assume that he did use the NN method.

He was ex Army (UK)

Make of that what you wish.

 

[lack]

i want to make this method work so so so badly. i cant think of any other way.
im going to be ordering my ratchet straps in a couple weeks when i have the money to do so. politics in my country are getting super weird and i depend on social security, which i fear i won't have access to maybe this time next year. i'm so full of fear, i feel so sick all the time. i just want this to be over.

but i havent been able to even successfully black out when using my hands to "choke" myself out,.. i was never able to do it, even as a kid during the 90's when classmates played the "black out game", i could never ever figure it out. there's such an intense feeling of panic when i think that i wont be able to succeed even if i procure the necessary things... ,dfjdfhsjfdsjfs i just want to die. i know everyone else here also just wants the suffering to end too,... i just wanted to put this here right now.. , i dont know why. i know it doesn't contribute anything meaningful or worthwhile. i just need to vent and all i can think about is the nn method and hoping and praying its an option. im going to go back to practicing finding my carotid again, now.

 

[totaly_fine]

I can't seem to find my sweet spot, I got it once really easily, but I have been trying to find it again for over an hour but it doesn't work. Are there any tricks? Am I doing something wrong?

 

[OmnipresentSoul]

what about 2 ratchets without a corn bag

 

[OmnipresentSoul]

some notes from my personal experience:

I've tried using gorilla tape but I doubt it has the ability to apply enough pressure, and I've found that adding new layers on top of each other is completely useless

Not all ratchets exert the same pressure or are made of the same material, and it is advisable to check that the maximum pressure it can exert is around 3 kg of force.

for the padding, even just a couple of folded 10x10 cm t-shirts positioned in the right place are enough.

what I've noticed makes the biggest difference is not so much the position of the padding, but the position of the tape above it, as this is what ultimately causes the compression in the beginning. Also the head of the rachet must be on the back of the neck, pulling inward on the throat.

On a personal level my problem lies in not finding the exact compression point. I'm sure I could compress the trachea if I wanted, but personally the only positive aspect of this method is that it avoids the decrease in oxygen in the blood below the neck circulation while managing to cause fainting at the same time.

I'm seriously thinking of jumping if I can't do it with this method, but I need to find out first a sufficient height.

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what would you think about using 2 ratchet straps?

 

[shadybear]

it didnt work did i do it wrong?

 

[forgottenfantasywrt]

not gonna lie, this method seems a little TOO peaceful and convenient. Are there any downsides we're not being told about?

 

[heyy]

I need help with this method :/
What I plan: I will use a nylon rope and make a slipknot. And u really have to put the cornhole bags on your neck? Just asking cuz there are methods like this where u do it with the part under your chin (oposite of neck). Sorry my english vocab and grammar is very limited... I'll try my best to make it understandable for you.
What is the difference between that? I try to put pressure on my neck (what the pic shows) but it just only feels uncomfortable. Sorry I think I am doing smth wrong. Can u describe detailed where u have to put these bags?
I really feel like I am way too stupid to do it correctly
I forgot to mention that the rope/ranchet or so will put pressure on your respiratory system and you can't breathe anymore. What do you do to avoid this??
tysm for your time!! <3

 

[shadybear]

if u have long hair dont even try

not gonna lie, this method seems a little TOO peaceful and convenient. Are there any downsides we're not being told about?

its just a pain to get right and if u have long hair impossible

 

[asthedayends00]

if u have long hair dont even try

its just a pain to get right and if u have long hair impossible

Why did you choose this method over others

 

[shadybear]

Why did you choose this method over others

seemed like the best till my stupid hair got in the way lol

 

[pesty]

Tried it didnt work...eyes and face got read but even after 2 min didn't faint..

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

I doubt anyone cares, but I'll be attempting to CTB this method in about 10 minutes. I've got a ratchet style belt, 2 pairs of balled up socks, and elastic cording that will help hold the socks in place. All my prep is done, and I'm ready to go. If I fail, I'll update this thread. If I don't update, you can at least know that if done correctly, it's valid.

 

[isolatedl111]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Great

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

Update #1: So far, all failures, tried maybe 5 times with slight adjustments, here's what I've learned:

-BALLED up socks I don't think will work. I basically had them the way you would have them in your drawer, but then folded in on themselves again. I think the blob type shape is causing issues. - Current solution: I've taken one pair of socks, and rolled them up from toe to heel. I then rubberbanded each sock, so they form a bit of a cylinder shape. I believe it will be easier to apply pressure this way.

-SWALLOWING is an issue. Make sure you are well hydrated. I don't have an actual ratchet strap, so I'm using a belt that has a ratchet style lock. However, it is a belt, so there is some give, and when I swallow, it's expanding the belt

-I'm confident I've found the right spots. At about the 45-60 second mark I start fading a little, but not enough to feel confident in final success. All data in this thread says 20 seconds to start feeling it...I'm not there yet

-I can confirm it is basically painless. There is a certain level of discomfort where the socks are pushed in on the carotid, but I wouldn't call it "pain". I have felt like my head was swelling up, and I haven't ended up with a headache yet.

Back to trying now, as previously mentioned...if I don't reply by tomorrow, then it ends in success.

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

Update #2: Complete failure. A few hours of trying now. I've been "close" a few tmes, but then I've just lost it completely, and end up just cutting off the jugular. I'm not sure what I'm doing differently now, but my situation is about to get uniquely more difficult as I will no longer have a place to stay, in a foreign country, with no money. I basically have 1 day to figure this out. New notes:

-If you get the jugular, I don't even know if that will work, but it is extremely unpleasant. The pressure in the head is unbearable...at least it was for me
-In the middle of attempts, I decided to try a partial suspension, that was way worse. Like...way way worse. Either I'm doing something wrong with that one, or it's just a terrible way to go.

I'll update again later...or I'll be successful.

 

[notreallybored]

It would work with an endless ratchet strap.


For a better idea of how to use it, watch this:



The best way to think about it is that the ratchet is going around your neck (with your padding), instead of the desk.



I can't speak for anyone else, but the method is pretty much painless. The biggest thing that might happen is that you'll feel your head "expand" a little more and feel the pressure around your neck. I've been blood choked multiple times in the Marines, and the only thing that I ever felt was the other person pressing against my neck with their arms. Then I started passing out, and I would have to tap out, or I would have been knocked out completely.

Something very important, if anyone is still kind of confused, then this video is PERFECT at what you're trying to execute. Except we're going for a little more padding to allow us to cover more ground, effectively cutting off MORE of the carotid arteries.





I would say that you would want to have the ratchet on the back of your neck, so the strap is in the front. So imagine that the cornhole bags or whatever is on your neck for padding has the strap directly in the middle of it. Then you can start tightening the ratchet behind your neck.



This is another thing that you can do if you want to, I won't CTB with a bag on my head though. With the blood choke, I want to pass out and have the brain have no blood at all. I want to be able to breathe perfectly fine while I start passing out and then just go from there.

Though, I will say this, cutting off oxygen and then suffocating from there will be more efficient as you're cutting off both the blood to your brain AND the Oxygen.



This will completely depend on the person honestly. With the ratchet method, you DO NOT even have to apply that much pressure (As stated in the video above). You can tighten it more though if you want to make sure that you know it's barely going to budge. You're still cutting off the blood flow to your brain though. You just want to make sure that the ratchet is tight enough to your liking and keeping the bags in place.

The reason I recommended both as stated before is that it will come down to personal preference. If the tape bothers your skin too much, go with the ratchet, or vise versa.



As stated before, you just want to go with just enough or just a little over so that you start cutting off the circulation. It completely comes down to personal preference. With the ratchet or tape though, you have MORE pressure being put against the bags which will allow more pressure against the arteries.



It will just take practice to find your sweet spot. I hope that I described everything as much as possible in this update.



Exactly, or if you want to think of it differently, it's the specific parts of the arm in the linked video above.



You could I guess. The way I think you're talking about it, I would personally tie it to the door and then the other part of it around my neck. Then I would be on my knees and make sure the line is straight. After that, I would lean forward.

The HUGE problem with doing that though is if it's not applying enough pressure and your body goes limp, then the padding could come loose and then you have no pressure against the arteries so it could be a failed attempt.



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I think I've covered every message so far.

ב''ה,

CO2 buildup is noted to cause the panic response. That's all I want to add to this.

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

Update #3: Was not successful yesterday after around 20 attempts. I ran out of time, unfortunately, but a life jacket was thrown to me, so I have more time now, and will continue to try. After the failed partial suspension, my throat/ears/eyes/head really hurt though, so I'm taking it easy today. I'll re post when I attempt again.

 

[TooLateNow]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

can you use string instead of tape/ratchet? and can you fill a sock or something with rice to replace cornhole bag.

 

[Namelesa]

can you use string instead of tape/ratchet? and can you fill a sock or something with rice to replace cornhole bag.

I want to also know if something else can be used instead of the cornbag. I wondering if I use my plushies instead. I desperately want to die now.

 

[MrSuicide]

I tried CTBing using the night-night method last year with a rope ratchet and two bean bags. Honestly a massive pain in the ass and the biggest issue with this method is actually figuring out how to use the rope ratchet and keeping everything together. Tightening it in my opinion is easier however. I practiced using my leg and I could use it but not that well. The bean bags I ordered were too big for my neck and I just rage quit.

I want to also know if something else can be used instead of the cornbag. I wondering if I use my plushies instead. I desperately want to die now.

Bean bags are preferred because they're flat, thick, and firm. Folded shirts would probably work if they fit that description? I honestly wouldn't recommend trying to improvise on this method though because if you fuck it up, it is going to be extremely difficult to loosen the ratchet around your neck. Like imagine the already difficult tool being x4 times harder to use. And suffocating to death is not pleasant at all.

 

[CinerateX]

I tried CTBing using the night-night method last year with a rope ratchet and two bean bags. Honestly a massive pain in the ass and the biggest issue with this method is actually figuring out how to use the rope ratchet and keeping everything together. Tightening it in my opinion is easier however. I practiced using my leg and I could use it but not that well. The bean bags I ordered were too big for my neck and I just rage quit.

Bean bags are preferred because they're flat, thick, and firm. Folded shirts would probably work if they fit that description? I honestly wouldn't recommend trying to improvise on this method though because if you fuck it up, it is going to be extremely difficult to loosen the ratchet around your neck. Like imagine the already difficult tool being x4 times harder to use. And suffocating to death is not pleasant at all.

What kinds of beanbags would work best do you think? Any particular advice on filling for them? And one other thing, in a video of the marine doing the blood choke above, the arm is on either side of his neck, whilst in the image, the bags are placed behind the neck. Which one is best?

 

[decisive.housewife]

Good day to all you guys! I am brand new member, a rookie if you want, from a small country in the Balkans. After 2 botched spine surgeries, pain in my body became unbearable, so I put all my affairs in order, left my company to my dear colleagues to run (telling them I hurt my back a little, and that I will be back after holidays, end of January max). Nobody, not even my closest friends and my family, knows about my physical state (I literally have to save my energy to have 3-4 days when pain is relatively tolerable, in order to book a hotel and ctb there in peace). I am reading all of these threads, but this massive opus of Mr. Kooz seems the most reliable way for me. I just learned about one similar way-instead of these bean or corn bags, is it possible using classic plastic bag (I have read a lot about erotic asphyxiation suicides, both intentional or not). Also, instead of putting 2 bags, is it possible to use one, and instead of two bags, maybe I should put some wider belt arround my neck (as Robin Williams did, he did partial hanging in his closet). There are tons of accidental deaths due to erotic and s&m games I've read about, even the police often make mistakes because investigators are not familiar with this method. Like Mr. Kooz said, it takes practice, and I am determined to succeed, no matter how long it takes. Still, I don't have much time, since my right arm started to feel numb (I also have damaged nerve in right arm and constant pain in neck and head). I am deeply sorry for such a long message, but I am hoping to find some kind of mentor here, or at least to hear some helpful advice. I see that a lot of people here are only flirting with idea of ctb (which is ok and normal, contemplating about it is one thing, and executing it is another thing; but I have no intention of wasting anybody's time, since the time is the most valuable thing we have), and I am really panicking because I was thinking I would have at least 2 months left to read some favorite books and spend time with my old mother, but the pain is worsening on daily basis, so I have only couple of lucid hours daily which I spend reading these forum and preparing myself to go. Sorry if my English isn't perfect, and sorry if I broke some rule maybe? Thanks in advance for any input, anything will be highly appreciated.