I think the suggestion for being propped upright is to avoid issues with possible vomiting in your sleep and the aspiration that would follow it. Basically if you do happen to vomit after passing out the hope is that you essentially swallow it due to being partially upright. You would only need to be at around 45 degree angle imho. I guess it's a personal choice really. The reason the pph and others say you should lay down is purely because of the fast onset of the drug. It's better not to be standing when it takes effect. Laying horizontal is not important so much as being in a decent resting position that you won't fall out of whilst asleep.
Got the tracking number for N order. Looks should be in tomrrow night. Super excited.
GentleJerk
Carrot juice pimp.
- Dec 14, 2021
- 1,372
Let us know how you go.
There has been a troubling new development, D's email is currently listed as a scam on the Exit International nembutal scams list. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...1-pph-on-exit-internationals-scam-list.85296/
One user has the real updated online version of the PPeH purchased from Exit, and D's details are still the same in there as our Nov PPH. So we are waiting to see if he can either confirm that his copy has been updated since this new nembutalscams.com entry, or if his PPH receives an update soon and the email for D stays the same.
Hopefully there's been some sort of mistake, but it's better to hold off on contacting D for now, until we can figure out whats going on.
lmon
Specialist
- Jan 9, 2022
- 326
I take hydroxizine which is a serotonin antagonist. does that mean this is a risky med too??
wtf keep us updated? how can it go from only reliable contact to scam?
if anyone cares to share, what is the primary color on the label on the n from d and when did you purchase?
just wondering for if I ever didnt chicken out and order it already what it should look like vs what the scam looks like
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pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 2,619
Anyone can test N with a laboratory that does anonymous testing of drug samples . I don't have an idea of the cost but I can't imagine it's more than N cost.
Someone testing N with a professional real lab would let us all know if it is a scam
If i ever get the guts to order N ( have fear of LE and customs) I would get the N lab tested before ingesting it.
One of the rules of life imo is never make assumptions without testing them for truth and accuracy.
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GentleJerk
Carrot juice pimp.
- Dec 14, 2021
- 1,372
Good news, @RainAndSadness has just updated us, and D's email has disappeared from the nembutal scams list. *phew*
Happy days.
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Happy days.
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This is a good rule... While a totally comprehensive laboratory test of D's N is not something I have seen yet, I have seen multiple rapid drug tests that showed his stuff is positive for barbs, and there are trusted members of the site who have ctb with it. So I would say the chances of it not being exactly what it's supposed to be, are virtually 0%.
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pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 2,619
In 2019 some ss members used a lab to test N from our source then who was different from D .l pm'd with them . That lab still seems valid imo and if I get over my fear of LE and get N I'll be testing it with that lab
Y'all can relax. There's a separate thread about this already, and apparently, it was a mistake:
"UPDATE. The email address of D disappeared from this list. The entry has been removed. It seems the report was false, as initially suggested and D is still reliable. I guess the email-address ended up on this list by accident. All good, people."
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...nationals-scam-list.85296/page-2#post-1524995
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...t-internationals-scam-list.85296/post-1524674
pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 2,619
Not sure what those tests are that you are talking about. Guess i'll have to research that on the internet , here and pph.
In 2019 some ss members used a lab to test N from our source then who was different from D .l pm'd with them . That lab still seems valid imo and if I get over my fear of LE and get N I'll be testing it with that lab
Those of you who are nervous or hesitant about ordering because of customs, LE etc, I just want to say that for months I was like that too. In fact I was absolutely adamant I'd never order N because it was too risky etc. I would read all the posts of people who got their N and I'd feel so sad and upset that I couldn't get it.
And then I learned of one person in my country who got it successfully and I had a spark. And then my health issues got so bad I started taking steps to get the funds and then contacted D. I really couldn't believe I was doing it but at that point I felt so fucking awful I didn't care anymore. I thought, if the police come to charge me, I'll just off myself with my nitrogen set up. Doesn't matter anymore.
And the N arrives. Inspected by customs and passed. And it was an incredible feeling.
I can honestly say it has given me so much peace of mind. I can only literally keep going because I know a peaceful death is just a bottle and a plastic bag away. Today I feel like shit and want to die, but I won't. If I didn't have N I'd be sitting around feeling even more stressed and worse because not only I'd have my fucking neurological shit to deal with but also the stress of a painful or less reliable and complicated method. I'm able to make it through the very very bad days because I know all I really need is a mouthful of the stuff and my plastic bag for a peaceful death.
If you are deliberating whether to get it or not and you have the funds I say go for it. If your situation feels unbearable it may give you relief and just enough breathing room to keep going, at least for now, as it has for me.
The only people I do not recommend take the risk are people who live in countries where drug offences carry the death penalty like in South East Asia. Besides that I have never heard of a single person even going to jail over N. Personally never heard of any welfare checks either.
At the end of the day, only you can decide whether the risk is worth it, but I have to say for me it most definitely was. In fact, I consider what I paid quite cheap for the mental help it has given me.
Now, I haven't tested or tasted mine so I do hope it is actually N
but I'm prone to paranoid thoughts when it comes to CTB and that's just something I have to deal with. I'm sure if the time ever comes, I won't hesitate to drink it.
And then I learned of one person in my country who got it successfully and I had a spark. And then my health issues got so bad I started taking steps to get the funds and then contacted D. I really couldn't believe I was doing it but at that point I felt so fucking awful I didn't care anymore. I thought, if the police come to charge me, I'll just off myself with my nitrogen set up. Doesn't matter anymore.
And the N arrives. Inspected by customs and passed. And it was an incredible feeling.
I can honestly say it has given me so much peace of mind. I can only literally keep going because I know a peaceful death is just a bottle and a plastic bag away. Today I feel like shit and want to die, but I won't. If I didn't have N I'd be sitting around feeling even more stressed and worse because not only I'd have my fucking neurological shit to deal with but also the stress of a painful or less reliable and complicated method. I'm able to make it through the very very bad days because I know all I really need is a mouthful of the stuff and my plastic bag for a peaceful death.
If you are deliberating whether to get it or not and you have the funds I say go for it. If your situation feels unbearable it may give you relief and just enough breathing room to keep going, at least for now, as it has for me.
The only people I do not recommend take the risk are people who live in countries where drug offences carry the death penalty like in South East Asia. Besides that I have never heard of a single person even going to jail over N. Personally never heard of any welfare checks either.
At the end of the day, only you can decide whether the risk is worth it, but I have to say for me it most definitely was. In fact, I consider what I paid quite cheap for the mental help it has given me.
Now, I haven't tested or tasted mine so I do hope it is actually N
but I'm prone to paranoid thoughts when it comes to CTB and that's just something I have to deal with. I'm sure if the time ever comes, I won't hesitate to drink it.
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lmon
Specialist
- Jan 9, 2022
- 326
Do you not trust N on its own?Those of you who are nervous or hesitant about ordering because of customs, LE etc, I just want to say that for months I was like that too. In fact I was absolutely adamant I'd never order N because it was too risky etc. I would read all the posts of people who got their N and I'd feel so sad and upset that I couldn't get it.
And then I learned of one person in my country who got it successfully and I had a spark. And then my health issues got so bad I started taking steps to get the funds and then contacted D. I really couldn't believe I was doing it but at that point I felt so fucking awful I didn't care anymore. I thought, if the police come to charge me, I'll just off myself with my nitrogen set up. Doesn't matter anymore.
And the N arrives. Inspected by customs and passed. And it was an incredible feeling.
I can honestly say it has given me so much peace of mind. I can only literally keep going because I know a peaceful death is just a bottle and a plastic bag away. Today I feel like shit and want to die, but I won't. If I didn't have N I'd be sitting around feeling even more stressed and worse because not only I'd have my fucking neurological shit to deal with but also the stress of a painful or less reliable and complicated method. I'm able to make it through the very very bad days because I know all I really need is a mouthful of the stuff and my plastic bag for a peaceful death.
If you are deliberating whether to get it or not and you have the funds I say go for it. If your situation feels unbearable it may give you relief and just enough breathing room to keep going, at least for now, as it has for me.
The only people I do not recommend take the risk are people who live in countries where drug offences carry the death penalty like in South East Asia. Besides that I have never heard of a single person even going to jail over N. Personally never heard of any welfare checks either.
At the end of the day, only you can decide whether the risk is worth it, but I have to say for me it most definitely was. In fact, I consider what I paid quite cheap for the mental help it has given me.
Now, I haven't tested or tasted mine so I do hope it is actually N
I don't think I could get 2 bottles down and keep it down. Meto is out of the question for me because of the extra pyramidal effects. My brain is already extremely sensitive. My best hope is one bottle without meto. Even if I ingest 10ml and puke 90ml I'll still go into a pretty damn deep sleep and die from plastic bag. I'm taking my personal circumstances and health/body reactions into account.
N came in yesterday. Ordered 3 bottles, but only 2 came in. Would have been nice to do with Swiss Organizations, but felt like too much red tape.
Also would be nice to do in the presence of someone to "supervise", but happy 2 products came in.
Also would be nice to do in the presence of someone to "supervise", but happy 2 products came in.
Red Scare
Wizard
- Mar 1, 2022
- 647
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US, West Coast. 1 day according to tracking label
I sense it will take a week or less to get affairs in order now that product is in.
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Yes. late last night, no response. but is weekend. I guess I'll get a response by Monday
Probably a silly question, but my main question is how do you break the seal? I haven't received it yet but I did read where scissors were needed to cut the seal? Anyone know what type of scissors they are referring too and where I could find some to purchase? Thanks in advance!
BrokenBliss
Invisible. Apparently.
- Jan 11, 2022
- 522
So I'm looking at buying a bottle for possible use sometime within the next ~5 years. I worry about it expiring, but I also want to get some ASAP in case supply dries up. How long will a bottle realistically last? Only 2 years?
Anyone have any thoughts/experience with the mail-in testing service mentioned in the PPeH? Wondering if that might be an option if I've had a bottle for a few years.
Anyone have any thoughts/experience with the mail-in testing service mentioned in the PPeH? Wondering if that might be an option if I've had a bottle for a few years.
headwood
Member
- Feb 9, 2022
- 35
I also have pre-existing brain/neurological issues and worry about ingesting meto but then backing out of CTB with N, leaving me alive with potential damage from the meto. At first when I received my N it really helped calm down the anxiety that I have over the inescapability of my disease, knowing that I finally had an exit if things became absolutely unbearable. But this added complexity throws a wrench in things and makes me feel stuck. When the time comes, I will probably just down the two bottles of N and hope that it doesn't come back up, but I'd have a lot more confidence if I could take meto. Anyway, good to see someone else on here who is in a similar situation with health issues that make meto a risk.
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BrokenBliss
Invisible. Apparently.
- Jan 11, 2022
- 522
May I ask how meto is of concern with your condition? I have a neurological issue, too, and am wondering about meto interaction. If you would be willing to share.
headwood
Member
- Feb 9, 2022
- 35
I have neurologic Lyme disease that has gotten into my brain and CNS. Among other things, one of the symptoms that comes from it is that I'll get random involuntary twitches and jerks in my body happening all day, and especially when entering into sleep or awakening from sleep. I have also experienced episodes of akathisia. I don't know for certain if the brain and nerve damage from the Lyme & co-infections predisposes me to the movement disorder risks of meto, but I don't like what I've gone through already, enough that it scares me away from ingesting it. I'm probably overreacting as it's an extremely low probability in most people that meto will cause problems, but my brain has already been screwed up enough by the Lyme that I worry about it.
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I have that very same jerking and twitching issue too @headwood. When it's really bad it make my mouth fly open and my lips smack. It's like I'm mimicking eating. So odd. The sensation in the body is like going completly limp and the tensing up all in a split second. A bit like a falling dream sensation. Does this ring a bell?
Have you seen specialist or gained diagnosis?
Have you seen specialist or gained diagnosis?
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Hi, I am going to purchase N from D week. Can anyone confirm the email address got in the Book through PM ? Thanks
BrokenBliss
Invisible. Apparently.
- Jan 11, 2022
- 522
Thank you for sharing that. It helps me put things into perspective. I've had little involuntary twitches for ages that may or may not be connected to my long-term use of gabapentin. Been weighing the risks of using (and frankly risks of not using) meto prior. I appreciate your (and @Smart No More's) input.
headwood
Member
- Feb 9, 2022
- 35
Yes, that's the kind of phenomena that I experience, though the movements are smaller and not typically as pronounced as my entire mouth flying open, or my limbs uncontrollably swinging around. I fear that the progression of the nerve deterioration may lead to more violent contractions and movements. The most frightening ones happen around sleep. Sometimes I'm awakened by a jerk inside of my brain which I can also hear as a "click" in my ears. It's otherworldly to know that there are tiny creatures lurking inside of my brain stem and causing all sorts of havoc.
I have clinical diagnosis from a Lyme-literate doctor. Waiting on results from diagnostic testing, although even then, testing for tick-borne illnesses is generally unreliable, especially with unspecialized labs that are used in the mainstream medical establishment. Chronic lyme is a rabbit hole and a perpetual guessing game.
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