Keep re-reading the post until what i said clicks and you fully understand it.
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You clearly didn't read it properly.
Keep re-reading the post until what i said clicks and you fully understand it.
.
You clearly didn't read it properly.
PatKat
Meh
- Aug 9, 2018
- 1,025
There have been... Where do they come from I wonder...
Susannah
Mage
- Jul 2, 2018
- 530
Yeah I did read it and re- read it, and your links. Nevermind. I never trust one theory, with some links. Used to work as an invastigating journalist and know the field.
It's not theory, it's facts.
You're just trying to debunk it calling it a theory because the information scares you and you can't handle the truth.
Just like Rex calling it spam because it scares them too and they can't handle the truth either.
If people here want and need to be pro choice.
You need to know the truth for you to be able to be pro choice.
You can't possibly be pro choice if you don't know the truth to be able to make an educated pro choice decision.
If you don't know the truth, then you are a slave.
If you're a slave then that means someone else is telling you what to do and you have no choice.
Is this not obvious?
If you want and need pro choice, you need to be educated and free to be able to make your own choice to be able to be pro choice.
You need to know the truth for you to be able to be pro choice.
You can't possibly be pro choice if you don't know the truth to be able to make an educated pro choice decision.
If you don't know the truth, then you are a slave.
If you're a slave then that means someone else is telling you what to do and you have no choice.
Is this not obvious?
If you want and need pro choice, you need to be educated and free to be able to make your own choice to be able to be pro choice.
Susannah
Mage
- Jul 2, 2018
- 530
I rest my case. I don't know the truth, in fact, I don't know shit about anything, but pardon me for asking. Love to all of you.
InaccessibleHour
Student
- Sep 1, 2018
- 143
Shit. Happened to me a little over a year ago and although the stay in the ER was fucking hell it sounds like your situation is even worse. damn.
Just pretend your way through as best you can. Be a little good boy as I was and you'll get out in no time. I had to lie the fuck out of myself to get out of the hospital, including saying I didn't intend to kill myself even though I made gestures and comments before, and somehow they let me off with a few quick acting short lasting shitty meds which made me feel really restricted. I could have had to stay the night being monitored, and even worse, being transported by helicopter to my house so I could get out of here as fast as possible. I was on vacation, which was shitty and I had to get admitted to a foreign hospital. It nearly cut it short, which could have been for better or for worse. As bad as those meds restricted me it did save the vacation from becoming any more of a nightmare it already was. And I didn't have to go into an ER again although I did have a close brush once before back home. Once I did get back home I got put on prozac. I know a lot of people on here like to say bad things about meds but seriously it's the only reason the previous disorder is only a lingering now. If you guys were in my situation you'd be happy for the meds. I'm only CTB for a different reason now which I have said before is private. But I think people who wanna ctb for disorders should give life and proper treatment and help a chance before doing it. OFC if you have any of BS treatment, shitty meds, or you have a REALLY bad disorder you're more entitled to CTB but this is kind of a dumb thing to say because as I've said before and what appears to be the general consensus in this place, the only person who can truly choose what is the best option here is their own self
Just pretend your way through as best you can. Be a little good boy as I was and you'll get out in no time. I had to lie the fuck out of myself to get out of the hospital, including saying I didn't intend to kill myself even though I made gestures and comments before, and somehow they let me off with a few quick acting short lasting shitty meds which made me feel really restricted. I could have had to stay the night being monitored, and even worse, being transported by helicopter to my house so I could get out of here as fast as possible. I was on vacation, which was shitty and I had to get admitted to a foreign hospital. It nearly cut it short, which could have been for better or for worse. As bad as those meds restricted me it did save the vacation from becoming any more of a nightmare it already was. And I didn't have to go into an ER again although I did have a close brush once before back home. Once I did get back home I got put on prozac. I know a lot of people on here like to say bad things about meds but seriously it's the only reason the previous disorder is only a lingering now. If you guys were in my situation you'd be happy for the meds. I'm only CTB for a different reason now which I have said before is private. But I think people who wanna ctb for disorders should give life and proper treatment and help a chance before doing it. OFC if you have any of BS treatment, shitty meds, or you have a REALLY bad disorder you're more entitled to CTB but this is kind of a dumb thing to say because as I've said before and what appears to be the general consensus in this place, the only person who can truly choose what is the best option here is their own self
InaccessibleHour
Student
- Sep 1, 2018
- 143
What if there's no "them" to tell anything to? How do you first get help if you don't have money for a doctor?
Hurry and put N in a condom and shove it up your ass and go out in style at the psych ward.
StarDust
Mage
- Aug 21, 2018
- 508
I think there is a special rock they hide under...
PatKat
Meh
- Aug 9, 2018
- 1,025
They need to stay away from the meadow! :)
StarDust
Mage
- Aug 21, 2018
- 508
ROTFLMAO
The Meadow of Death will take them down with it!!! They better tread lightly....hehehe
PatKat
Meh
- Aug 9, 2018
- 1,025
InaccessibleHour
Student
- Sep 1, 2018
- 143
@useless
"How do you first get help if you don't have money for a doctor?"
Ah, and now THIS is the first, and probably the least easiest, step to getting help.
I regret to inform you I have no idea how to go about doing this. When I was the person who needed help. I wasn't the person actively seeking help, and I wasn't the person responsible for it, either. My parents took care of it all for me. They did tell, though, it is very difficult to get immediate urgent help. For general health, they told me a waiting list to see a psychiatrist was over a year long. Getting more immediate, urgent help for serious disorders was a LOT more difficult to find. Alas, they did it, and I suspect the therapy helped somewhat. I went through a few different doctors.. There was a middle aged lady who was kind, but said she doesn't and can't help with disorders on what was my level, and I actually first started speaking to her well over a year ago. She referred me to another doctor who dealt with severe disorders like mine. He was a psychiatrist who could help in some ways, but we needed a real therapist to finish it off. I started talking to him around the start of this year and the end of last year, I think? It definitely had to do with getting on Prozac and getting real, professional help. Then I was eventually referred to the therapist who I started seeing semi frequently in April or May. My condition was getting better truthfully, and I felt like where I was then I didn't need a therapist. Although the disorder was still lingering, I lied through a bit of it till he let me go. And he did. The good thing is now, if I ever "need" the therapy again I can visit the therapist straight away and get help. Because I'm on here, though, and going to CTB within a few nights, if not tonight which is preferable, I won't be seeing him ever again. Unless some dumbasses somehow save me and I either end up a vegetable, which I guess I woudn't be dealing with this person again, or I'd still get found out and sent to therapy, and since I actually tried to CTB, probably worse therapy, ER, cops phoned on me, ward, etc.
The best advice I can give you, if you really want help and don't want to do yourself in, is to start earning money. Even if it's not very much. It doesn't take a spectacular person to work at McDonald's. Hell, get Fiverr or whatever the app is and earn money off of it. If you're really desperate, there's online services where you can vote for products and fill out surveys, and they earn you money. It sounds sketchy, though, so be wary when earning money when it's not an "official" job. Save up, and don't spend it on worthless things ya know you don't need. If you really want help this badly, spend your money where you need to and save towards having enough money for help.
Yes, I know people will say jobs and this life are boring. And I totally agree and get this, and is a big reason why I am CTB. But if you want help and want to keep living in this world, I'm just giving you advice on what I think you should do to earn money you need to get help. I know, working at McDonald's isn't the funnest thing to do, but if you want to live in this world, it's the way she goes. Save up your money, look towards the future, and don't give up hope. Eventually, if you choose to, things will get better, and you'll have a better, well paying job you like, etc.
Be warned though. Help here wasn't too bad. I know you don't want to tell people you want to CTB which is a good idea. Because if you do, you're probably gonna be thrown in the hospital or a ward straight away, where the staff could be abusive and pop pills without not a thing you can do about it. I'm sure you're aware of this though, and this is why you're not telling these people you are CTB. This way, you'll probably get real professional help with people who actually care about you, and your life will get better. Now, do note not all wards and hospitals have abusive staff. A lot do from stories I've heard, but I'd guess from stories there are a few decent out there too. In general though, they are painted in a really bad light, and probably for good reason, because they probably think we're a bunch of hopeless no lifers anyway and treat us the way they do because they get a kick out of people helplessly suffering, being forced to stay here with no way out and no real help. It is a risky move to tell any of these people you are seriously thinking about CTB, because you'll end up in a hospital or ward straight away if you do any gestures, probably without gestures too, and they'll want to keep an eye on you all day, all night. Not fun at all, what I've heard. It's your choice in the end, but don't say I, and others, didn't warn you if you come here saying I'm now in a ward because I told these people I wanted to CTB. Know I know this is not what you're going to do and ya know to play your cards better then this. I'm just saying if it were to happen, don't blame us. Lol
When you actually get help, steering away of the CTB talk is the best thing to do, and just go in and get the help you need for the actual disorder itself without alerting the other person to see your situation with tainted colored glasses on. This way, you get the best, direct help you'll need, and if they're a good therapist who really cares for you and isn't in it for the cash, which you don't see a lot of these days, you'll probably be better in no time.
As for actually getting help, well I live in Canada, and I hear you're talking about paying money for doctors, so I'm sorry, but I'm sure the entry process is a lot different wherever you live then it is in Canada. I am sorry, but I cannot offer true real advice to you there.
I wish you the best of luck in the future.
"How do you first get help if you don't have money for a doctor?"
Ah, and now THIS is the first, and probably the least easiest, step to getting help.
I regret to inform you I have no idea how to go about doing this. When I was the person who needed help. I wasn't the person actively seeking help, and I wasn't the person responsible for it, either. My parents took care of it all for me. They did tell, though, it is very difficult to get immediate urgent help. For general health, they told me a waiting list to see a psychiatrist was over a year long. Getting more immediate, urgent help for serious disorders was a LOT more difficult to find. Alas, they did it, and I suspect the therapy helped somewhat. I went through a few different doctors.. There was a middle aged lady who was kind, but said she doesn't and can't help with disorders on what was my level, and I actually first started speaking to her well over a year ago. She referred me to another doctor who dealt with severe disorders like mine. He was a psychiatrist who could help in some ways, but we needed a real therapist to finish it off. I started talking to him around the start of this year and the end of last year, I think? It definitely had to do with getting on Prozac and getting real, professional help. Then I was eventually referred to the therapist who I started seeing semi frequently in April or May. My condition was getting better truthfully, and I felt like where I was then I didn't need a therapist. Although the disorder was still lingering, I lied through a bit of it till he let me go. And he did. The good thing is now, if I ever "need" the therapy again I can visit the therapist straight away and get help. Because I'm on here, though, and going to CTB within a few nights, if not tonight which is preferable, I won't be seeing him ever again. Unless some dumbasses somehow save me and I either end up a vegetable, which I guess I woudn't be dealing with this person again, or I'd still get found out and sent to therapy, and since I actually tried to CTB, probably worse therapy, ER, cops phoned on me, ward, etc.
The best advice I can give you, if you really want help and don't want to do yourself in, is to start earning money. Even if it's not very much. It doesn't take a spectacular person to work at McDonald's. Hell, get Fiverr or whatever the app is and earn money off of it. If you're really desperate, there's online services where you can vote for products and fill out surveys, and they earn you money. It sounds sketchy, though, so be wary when earning money when it's not an "official" job. Save up, and don't spend it on worthless things ya know you don't need. If you really want help this badly, spend your money where you need to and save towards having enough money for help.
Yes, I know people will say jobs and this life are boring. And I totally agree and get this, and is a big reason why I am CTB. But if you want help and want to keep living in this world, I'm just giving you advice on what I think you should do to earn money you need to get help. I know, working at McDonald's isn't the funnest thing to do, but if you want to live in this world, it's the way she goes. Save up your money, look towards the future, and don't give up hope. Eventually, if you choose to, things will get better, and you'll have a better, well paying job you like, etc.
Be warned though. Help here wasn't too bad. I know you don't want to tell people you want to CTB which is a good idea. Because if you do, you're probably gonna be thrown in the hospital or a ward straight away, where the staff could be abusive and pop pills without not a thing you can do about it. I'm sure you're aware of this though, and this is why you're not telling these people you are CTB. This way, you'll probably get real professional help with people who actually care about you, and your life will get better. Now, do note not all wards and hospitals have abusive staff. A lot do from stories I've heard, but I'd guess from stories there are a few decent out there too. In general though, they are painted in a really bad light, and probably for good reason, because they probably think we're a bunch of hopeless no lifers anyway and treat us the way they do because they get a kick out of people helplessly suffering, being forced to stay here with no way out and no real help. It is a risky move to tell any of these people you are seriously thinking about CTB, because you'll end up in a hospital or ward straight away if you do any gestures, probably without gestures too, and they'll want to keep an eye on you all day, all night. Not fun at all, what I've heard. It's your choice in the end, but don't say I, and others, didn't warn you if you come here saying I'm now in a ward because I told these people I wanted to CTB. Know I know this is not what you're going to do and ya know to play your cards better then this. I'm just saying if it were to happen, don't blame us. Lol
When you actually get help, steering away of the CTB talk is the best thing to do, and just go in and get the help you need for the actual disorder itself without alerting the other person to see your situation with tainted colored glasses on. This way, you get the best, direct help you'll need, and if they're a good therapist who really cares for you and isn't in it for the cash, which you don't see a lot of these days, you'll probably be better in no time.
As for actually getting help, well I live in Canada, and I hear you're talking about paying money for doctors, so I'm sorry, but I'm sure the entry process is a lot different wherever you live then it is in Canada. I am sorry, but I cannot offer true real advice to you there.
I wish you the best of luck in the future.
InaccessibleHour
Student
- Sep 1, 2018
- 143
Jon86
Specialist
- Apr 9, 2018
- 369
I'm actually not, although i'm not a fan of younger kids committing suicide out of temporary desperation. You don't get put into a facility normally unless you are actively broadcasting serious emotional hysteria to those around you. Imo, doing that is a call for help, whether the person knows it or not.
Normally, destitute people don't ask for help, they die quietly without an audience.
Brokenanddeadinside
Arcanist
- Aug 8, 2018
- 403
Ya working at mcdonalds wouldn't work for me I have anger issues and all it would take is a shitty customer to insult me or do something to me and ill flip the fuck out. I have a hard time maintaining a job and the last job I almost came close to killing myself because I was in my head all day andthe job was miserable. I have bipolar and potentially bpd and it makes it hard to maintain things
Rollo
No pasaran
- Aug 13, 2018
- 461
They take oath to keep any patient from harm, regardless of whether he remains anonymous or not. And they will section you on these very grounds. What makes you think name John Doe is a honorable one and that they have some special obligations if they assign it to you cause your real name can't be determined?
You clearly didn't read a word i wrote otherwise you wouldn't have needed to ask that question.
Rollo
No pasaran
- Aug 13, 2018
- 461
I read your entire post. Nowhere you provide any grounds other then saying it worked for you. Your links are but anonymous statements about 'natural law' vs 'man made law'. Obviously police, judges and doctors will act on man made law.
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