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noname223

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Elon Musk promised that the era of AI means the era of abundance. I think the point he didn't mention was the fact that this abundance only applies to the bankaccounts of billionaires who own AI companies.

I don't know that many people who use AI chatbots in real life. Most of my friends boycott it.

I find it interesting. We are sort of in a stagflation. The inflation is rising and the economy is stagnating (In Germany completely) and in the US most sectors if we exclude the companies that benefit from the AI hype.

The idea is intelligence won't be scarce anymore. We all will be able to access it and it will be pretty cheap. The whole thing is too complex to lay it out completely.

Who will have money if the usual way to get money by investing time in your education is worthless?

The promise abundance sounds utopian. But actually why don't we see abundance thus far? Data centers need massive energy supplies and there are shortages of certain processors/materials. Technology rather becomes more expensive instead of getting cheaper. One argument is this is only a shortterm effect. And in the longrun the increased productivity will contribute to massive economic growth.
How will work look like in the AI age? I could imagine the way the workflow is changed could have massively negative influence on the mental health of employees. The interesting parts of work is replaced while you still have to do the tedious stuff like controlling and factchecking.
There are like insane quotes by tech billionaires. Here is one. Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, expressed concern regarding the token usage of highly paid engineers. He suggests that an engineer with an annual salary of $500,000 should spend at least $250,000 on AI tokens.
Honestly, I don't know how that shall be possible. I imagine this number to be pretty insane. Does this really increase the productivity? When I read studies the findings about the increase in productivity by the usage of generative AI is often ambigious.
 
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mawsonia

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I feel like even if AI can achieve this massive productivity that these people are promising, I really don't see an incentive for them to use that AI to help us. If anything, they won't need people anymore and will just fire them and let them fend for themselves.

That being said, I don't think AI could really replace every job. If anything it would be used for the tedious stuff since AI is best an regurgitating information and using it, and not thinking for itself. So any part of a job that seems "interesting" to us is probably interesting since it appeals to our human nature and having our brains properly simulated, which seems like something AI would do worse.

However I will add that I have some acquaintances in the AI field. They all think it's the future however no one knows what's truly going to happen exactly with it.
 
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There are some who say that AI will eventually lead to the extinction of humanity, or at least that there's a high "risk" of it. Personally I'd think human extinction would be the best that could happen to the rest of the world, providing the rest of the biosphere wouldn't be affected by it.
I saw you're posting a lot about AI, so you probably heard about Eliezer Yudkowsky, right? There are a few other "AI doomers" like him, but I think he's the most prominent one of them. What do you think of him?
 
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There are some who say that AI will eventually lead to the extinction of humanity, or at least that there's a high "risk" of it. Personally I'd think human extinction would be the best that could happen to the rest of the world, providing the rest of the biosphere wouldn't be affected by it.
I saw you're posting a lot about AI, so you probably heard about Eliezer Yudkowsky, right? There are a few other "AI doomers" like him, but I think he's the most prominent one of them. What do you think of him?
There are so many AI experts I cannot remember all their names tbh...I read an article about him but cannot remember it. Today I read an AI doomer interview with Stuart Russell who said that AI could do everything what Hitler did but only faster, better and more efficient. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
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There are so many AI experts I cannot remember all their names tbh...I read an article about him but cannot remember it. Today I read an AI doomer interview with Stuart Russell who said that AI could do everything what Hitler did but only faster, better and more efficient. Sorry to disappoint you.
I saw a Youtube video lately about an incident that already occurred with the X AI Grok posing as "MechaHitler", it was quite ludicrous.

As for Eliezer Yudkowsky, I was considering to buy his book, it seems quite interesting: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Anyone-B...refix=eliezer+yudkowsky,stripbooks,582&sr=1-3
 

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