Help That's enough to drown?

[tinyfox]

What do you think—if I swim out to a deep spot Far from shore and put my handcuffs on crosswise? I have a one of handcuffs that I plan to put on so that one part is on my right hand and the other on my left foot . In that position, I won't be able to float on my back, and I think I'll sink to the bottom quickly, right? I'll be in the fetal position with one free arm and the opposite leg extended; I think I'll start drowning immediately.

And how long does it take for a person to lose consciousness underwater without air—about a minute or so? Thanks.

 

[skyunderthesea]

I considered drowning, but it takes quite a while to lose consciousness. First, your SI will kick in and you'll hold your breath as long as possible. Then, you start breathing water and it'll burn, even if it's freshwater. From what I've researched, its ~5 minutes to lose consciousness, but that 5 minutes will be the longest, most terrifying, and then painful minutes of your life. At that point, your primitive lizard brain is in control, and it will not want to die. My original plan involved drinking a shit ton of alcohol beforehand to turn everything into a fuzz, but that may not work with your handcuff idea. Also, it may not help with SI and fear, there's not really any data on the experiences of blackout drunk people surviving drowning. I've decided to go with the night night method, if I can work up the nerve to really do it.

 

[SomeKindOfName]

SN method is much better. If you're from Ukraine and seeking euthanasia methods we should cooperate and test SN method. I bought 0.5 kg of cheap SN but I don't use it cause I'm not sure if it's of good enough quality.

 

[tinyfox]

SN method is much better. If you're from Ukraine and seeking euthanasia methods we should cooperate and test SN method. I bought 0.5 kg of cheap SN but I don't use it cause I'm not sure if it's of good enough quality.

I can't use method with SN, very many problems, and Death will not be peaceful,and if it doesn't work out and I become disabled , I need to search another way to CTB.

I considered drowning, but it takes quite a while to lose consciousness. First, your SI will kick in and you'll hold your breath as long as possible. Then, you start breathing water and it'll burn, even if it's freshwater. From what I've researched, its ~5 minutes to lose consciousness, but that 5 minutes will be the longest, most terrifying, and then painful minutes of your life. At that point, your primitive lizard brain is in control, and it will not want to die. My original plan involved drinking a shit ton of alcohol beforehand to turn everything into a fuzz, but that may not work with your handcuff idea. Also, it may not help with SI and fear, there's not really any data on the experiences of blackout drunk people surviving drowning. I've decided to go with the night night method, if I can work up the nerve to really do it.

@skyunderthesea why you think that 5 minutes need to lose consciousness?
I read that after
Once a person starts swallowing water, it takes anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes to lose consciousness. Yeah, it hurts, but for a 100% chance of death, I'm willing to endure it for 1 minute and be gone forever...

That won't work with the handcuffs—do you mean combining alcohol and handcuffs?

As I see it, if you're sober and put on the handcuffs the way I described, a person will start drowning almost immediately, and once they run out of air and start swallowing water, it should take anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes. Yeah, two minutes of agony is a long time, but damn it, for some reason I could bring myself to do it—but when I think about hanging myself, my reptilian brain stops me, even though hanging is much easier...

@skyunderthesea Do you mean five minutes from the very start of drowning? As far as I'm concerned, if you start drowning and let all the air out right away, it should all be over in a couple of minutes
@skyunderthesea
How I See My Method

Once I'm handcuffed, I'll immediately start flailing and drowning. I think it'll take a couple of minutes.

Then I'll go underwater, and once I run out of air—in about 1–2 minutes—I'll lose consciousness. The worst of the agony will last those 2 minutes, followed by unconsciousness and then death...

 

[skyunderthesea]

I can't use method with SN, very many problems, and Death will not be peaceful,and if it doesn't work out and I become disabled , I need to search another way to CTB.

@skyunderthesea why you think that 5 minutes need to lose consciousness?
I read that after
Once a person starts swallowing water, it takes anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes to lose consciousness. Yeah, it hurts, but for a 100% chance of death, I'm willing to endure it for 1 minute and be gone forever...

That won't work with the handcuffs—do you mean combining alcohol and handcuffs?

As I see it, if you're sober and put on the handcuffs the way I described, a person will start drowning almost immediately, and once they run out of air and start swallowing water, it should take anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes. Yeah, two minutes of agony is a long time, but damn it, for some reason I could bring myself to do it—but when I think about hanging myself, my reptilian brain stops me, even though hanging is much easier...

@skyunderthesea Do you mean five minutes from the very start of drowning? As far as I'm concerned, if you start drowning and let all the air out right away, it should all be over in a couple of minutes
@skyunderthesea
How I See My Method

Once I'm handcuffed, I'll immediately start flailing and drowning. I think it'll take a couple of minutes.

Then I'll go underwater, and once I run out of air—in about 1–2 minutes—I'll lose consciousness. The worst of the agony will last those 2 minutes, followed by unconsciousness and then death...

Yeah I meant 5 minutes from first going under the water. If you have the willpower to force yourself to inhale the water immediately then go for it I guess, but it's not generally recommended as a method for a reason. SI is a hard thing to overcome. That's why my plan involved getting blackout drunk and stumbling over the edge of a bridge, to kill my awareness and fear.

 

[tinyfox]

Yeah I meant 5 minutes from first going under the water. If you have the willpower to force yourself to inhale the water immediately then go for it I guess, but it's not generally recommended as a method for a reason. SI is a hard thing to overcome. That's why my plan involved getting blackout drunk and stumbling over the edge of a bridge, to kill my awareness and fear.

I get what you mean. Yeah, it should be easier with alcohol, but it's hard to be sure of the exact outcome.

I don't know why, but for some reason it's easier for me to commit to the maximum agonizing few minutes of drowning than to the simple, not-too-painful 20 seconds of hanging. The brain is a strange thing.

Anyway, if I can't come up with anything better, I'll just swim out to deep water, put handcuffs on one leg and the opposite arm, and whatever happens, happens... I almost drowned once without handcuffs, so I figure with this method, I'll definitely end up choking on water and sinking to the bottom sooner or later. I don't think it's possible to swim back to the surface in that position...
@skyunderthesea What do you think? Am I right? There are two options: either I'll drown or I'll make it out, but I can't really imagine how I'd be able to survive in that situation. Thanks

If I'd known I'd pass out 30 seconds after the air ran out, I definitely would have gone for it... Yeah, it's agonizing, but just this once...


Could someone else please confirm if I'm right: if I handcuff one leg to the opposite arm, will I start drowning pretty quickly? And will I go under in about 5 minutes or so...

I'm also wondering if I should take a large number of tranquilizers to make sure I lose consciousness?

 

[Hewburt]

What do you think—if I swim out to a deep spot Far from shore and put my handcuffs on crosswise? I have a one of handcuffs that I plan to put on so that one part is on my right hand and the other on my left foot . In that position, I won't be able to float on my back, and I think I'll sink to the bottom quickly, right? I'll be in the fetal position with one free arm and the opposite leg extended; I think I'll start drowning immediately.

And how long does it take for a person to lose consciousness underwater without air—about a minute or so? Thanks.

2 minutes to lose consciousness, 6 minutes to die