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richardpinkhammer

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Feb 23, 2024
13
I watched a Ted Talk on YouTube by a multiple attempt survivor (13 to be precise). She quoted a mental health magazine article that said that 19/20 (95%) of attempts to CTB fail which I'm on board with. Then she went on to say that of those failed attempts 91% are suffering horrifying consequences as a result of their failed attempts (paralysis, irreversible organ failure, physical deformities and disfugrements, etc.) This statistic seems wildly inaccurate to me. I'm not sure if she just threw that second stat in as a deterant or if the magazine that she got that from actually stated that. How would you even keep track of something like that? It just doesn't pass the smell test. I'll post a link to the video below. The stats she's quoting start at about 7:20 in. I'm curious if anybody has any opinions on this.

 
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Apathy79

Apathy79

Wizard
Oct 13, 2019
662
Yeah neither of those figures are within hailing distance of being accurate, the 2nd one is almost comical. She said she got them from a random magazine article. Probably all you need to know.
 
Withered

Withered

Member
Apr 9, 2025
48
People like her are definitionally evil. Attempting to dissuade someone from the opportunity for countless months, years, or decades of pain to be circumvented based on easily falsifiable information is beyond worthy of condemnation.
 
IndictEvolution

IndictEvolution

VegAntinatalist
Jun 28, 2024
53
Many many people (even people on this website) have been programmed to be fearmongers. You just learn to identify it, it's super easy once you recognize it a few times. Obviously you have to be careful to fine tune it so you don't get false positives, but it's really not that hard.
They're usually doing it for one of these reasons:

  1. They themselves have an irrational fear of this thing, and so see it as justified to impose this fear on others.
  2. They feed off of other people's emotional reactions to things, and enjoy seeing people scared.
  3. Manipulation to push an agenda, like pro-life ideology for example.
One I've encountered a ton in my life is people trying to push a fear of chemicals onto me. I was interested in chemistry since I was a kid, and during high school started a little home lab that eventually grew into a nice collection of compounds and glassware. I've had so many fucking people tell me how dangerous this and that chemical is, only to then find out (from actual experience that most of them didn't even have) that it wasn't nearly as dangerous as they claimed it to be. They basically presume you're a complete moron with no common sense when they give these dire warnings. What I'm saying applies to probably 90% of the compounds I've worked with. There's very few that are genuinely what I would call "very dangerous", and even cyanide doesn't make my list tbh. Have got sodium cyanide on my skin before, no problems lol.
 
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imOK

Experienced
Apr 10, 2025
253
13 times eh? I'm sure they were all very serious attempts and not attention-seeking nonsense at all, just like this Ted talk!

God, I hate such people. Their "me, me, me, me, me!" attitude and attention whoring made it so difficult for me to get taken seriously and find mental health resources and get my disability aknowledged. They can all go die in a fire and I don't care how brutal it sounds.
 

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