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Raven2

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Dec 1, 2022
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@BrokenLine how are you doing now? Any long term affects? Did you take any antiemetics or antacids with SN?
 
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Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
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hmnnnnn did you vomit? Any meds? What were the time intervals in between where you drank the SN? Like how long were the breaks in between? because......this essentially should have been lethal
 
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littlelady774

littlelady774

running on empty
Dec 20, 2018
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Are you from the US and did you use tap water? Sometimes the water here can be on the acidic side with a pH as low as 4. It might've changed it to nitrate
 
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BrokenLine

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Jul 13, 2019
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@BrokenLine how are you doing now? Any long term affects? Did you take any antiemetics or antacids with SN?
Day to day slightly different feel a bit sick, stomach is off in the sense i had SN in my system so there will be some irritation i think. today i thought i may need to call a doctor was feeling dizzy and sick similar to after i took SN, but decided not to. but as the days went on I've ate and drank and feel a lot better. I've not been out since i took it just been in and sleeping but that's not down to SN that's just life. Yes i took both. but I'll say again what was making my want to be sick was burping and retasting the SN.
hmnnnnn did you vomit? Any meds? What were the time intervals in between where you drank the SN? Like how long were the breaks in between? because......this essentially should have been lethal
No other meds other than recommended ones for SN. Time wise between my first drink and my last was maybe 10 minutes, during and after i felt a bit sick but that was down to taste. After the last drink I lay down and played a game i noticed my eyesight blurring slightly and i had lost a lot of color, actually it was most color had been heavily muted 85%gone between half an hour to 40 minutes in i couldn't walk 20 feet without nearly blacking out when i got back i dropped down and just went to sleep. I woke up early morning and noticed i had been sick, a couple of pillow and my top are now in the bin.
Are you from the US and did you use tap water? Sometimes the water here can be on the acidic side with a pH as low as 4. It might've changed it to nitrate
No I'm in the UK, and don't have an issue with my tap water.
 
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Looking

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Day to day slightly different feel a bit sick, stomach is off in the sense i had SN in my system so there will be some irritation i think. today i thought i may need to call a doctor was feeling dizzy and sick similar to after i took SN, but decided not to. but as the days went on I've ate and drank and feel a lot better. I've not been out since i took it just been in and sleeping but that's not down to SN that's just life. Yes i took both. but I'll say again what was making my want to be sick was burping and retasting the SN.

No other meds other than recommended ones for SN. Time wise between my first drink and my last was maybe 10 minutes, during and after i felt a bit sick but that was down to taste. After the last drink I lay down and played a game i noticed my eyesight blurring slightly and i had lost a lot of color, actually it was most color had been heavily muted 85%gone between half an hour to 40 minutes in i couldn't walk 20 feet without nearly blacking out when i got back i dropped down and just went to sleep. I woke up early morning and noticed i had been sick, a couple of pillow and my top are now in the bin.

No I'm in the UK, and don't have an issue with my tap water.

If you do end up going to a doctor, please keep us updated on the results, if anything comes from it. It's rare people survive SN. I've linked this case report previously, but in "Survival after self‐poisoning with sodium nitrite: A case report". The person reported "Bowel incontinence." and "He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity" when in the hospital. You mentioned your stomach so I am very curious.
 
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BrokenLine

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Jul 13, 2019
255
If you do end up going to a doctor, please keep us updated on the results, if anything comes from it. It's rare people survive SN. I've linked this case report previously, but in "Survival after self‐poisoning with sodium nitrite: A case report". The person reported "Bowel incontinence." and "He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity" when in the hospital. You mentioned your stomach so I am very curious.
Will do, yes that doesn't sound good. if i or anyone had to deal with how I'm feeling right now for how ever long I'm alive no-one would really have a problem with it. my slight issue is its the start of something worse but only time will tell.
 
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Love is a toothache in the heart. H.Heine
Dec 12, 2020
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Will do, yes that doesn't sound good. if i or anyone had to deal with how I'm feeling right now for how ever long I'm alive no-one would really have a problem with it. my slight issue is its the start of something worse but only time will tell.
Please could you say what antacid/dose did you take?

Try not to take acidic and others irritating foods atm... (like if you had gastritis).
Hope it will get better very soon.

Thank you for sharing your experience.
 
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BrokenLine

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Please could you say what antacid/dose did you take?

Try not to take acidic and others irritating foods atm... (like if you had gastritis).
Hope it will get better very soon.

Thank you for sharing your experience.
I used milk of magnesia. i had other stuff to but from experience this is what found worked best for me, some caused more issues.

Yeah today the first thing that made me feel better was a banana and water so think i''m be more on a fruit veg diet for a few day
Thanks, no problem happy to share my experience.
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
826
This is soooo bizarre, I mean it's literally a miracle that you survived? Like you really shouldn't be alive rn. So you vomited or no? Still not clear to me. Are you taking this as "divine intervention" or would you still try to CTB?
 
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littlelady774

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Dec 20, 2018
708
According to Wikipedia, the LD50 is 180mg per kg body weight. Your weight is 205 lbs which is 93 kg. So for there to be like ~100% chance to ctb, it would be 180 x 2 x 93 = 33 grams of SN you would need to take.

Let's say you actually drank about 23 grams, (23/33) So in reality, you Only had a 69% chance of ctb.

Hope that makes sense.
 
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BrokenLine

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This is soooo bizarre, I mean it's literally a miracle that you survived? Like you really shouldn't be alive rn. So you vomited or no? Still not clear to me. Are you taking this as "divine intervention" or would you still try to CTB?
Yes I would say for the first 40 minutes after taking it i know i never vomited. But i was unconscious for over 10 hours yes at some point I vomited I'm assuming since I'm still here not long after falling asleep. A couple of things when i woke i was completely dehydrated freezing and i had no color, i wasn't blue i was grey and my stomach felt like there was a hole in it. that's what i noticed when i woke up. was i surprised yes.
Yes id still try, there little that could change that sadly.
Divine intervention i think i just lay the wrong way and was sick or maybe this ⬇️⬇️.

According to Wikipedia, the LD50 is 180mg per kg body weight. Your weight is 205 lbs which is 93 kg. So for there to be like ~100% chance to ctb, it would be 180 x 2 x 93 = 33 grams of SN you would need to take.

Let's say you actually drank about 23 grams, (23/33) So in reality, you Only had a 69% chance of ctb.

Hope that makes sense.
thanks, yes that does make me look at it differently.

69 always turning up at the wrong time.
 
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Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
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Yes I would say for the first 40 minutes after taking it i know i never vomited. But i was unconscious for over 10 hours yes at some point I vomited I'm assuming since I'm still here not long after falling asleep. A couple of things when i woke i was completely dehydrated freezing and i had no color, i wasn't blue i was grey and my stomach felt like there was a hole in it. that's what i noticed when i woke up. was i surprised yes.
Yes id still try, there little that could change that sadly.
Divine intervention i think i just lay the wrong way and was sick or maybe this ⬇️⬇️.
Did you see any vomit when you woke up? even 23 grams should have been lethal
 
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littlelady774

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Dec 20, 2018
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Did you see any vomit when you woke up? even 23 grams should have been lethal
Read my post above :
According to Wikipedia, the LD50 is 180mg per kg body weight. Your weight is 205 lbs which is 93 kg. So for there to be like ~100% chance to ctb, it would be 180 x 2 x 93 = 33 grams of SN you would need to take.

Let's say you actually drank about 23 grams, (23/33) So in reality, you Only had a 69% chance of ctb.

Hope that makes sense.
For OP's weight, and a 100% chance of ctb, they would need to take 33 grams. Them taking 23 grams only gave them about a 70% chance.
 
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ctb7767

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Dec 4, 2022
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That happens to be my exact weight, so should I take 33 grams?
 
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littlelady774

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Dec 20, 2018
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That happens to be my exact weight, so should I take 33 grams?
If you want to have ~100% chance of ctb, then yes, probably. -at least 33

I don't wanna tell anybody what to do. I'm just going off research and the LD50 of sodium nitrite(180 mg per kg) So for example, I weigh 45 kg, very small, so I need to take about 16 g of SN at the least. That would be around my amount for ~100% chance of CTB.

It's 180 x 2 x your weight in kg

Hope that makes sense
 
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