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ImsooDone1N

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Interesting stuff; I've always heard that at least 10-15g of N are used as it's double the lethal dosage. But back to taste, I also wanted to test a bit of my N. Just 150mg. I was expecting something unpleasant, and it was certainly not pleasant- but imo not a barrier to using N to ctb. I'll have a bit chocolate afterwards, even if it's just a bite.
 
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s_girl

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Interesting stuff; I've always heard that at least 10-15g of N are used as it's double the lethal dosage. But back to taste, I also wanted to test a bit of my N. Just 150mg. I was expecting something unpleasant, and it was certainly not pleasant- but imo not a barrier to using N to ctb. I'll have a bit chocolate afterwards, even if it's just a bite.

My understanding from my research is that the Right To Die groups do use 10-15 grams to expedite the death (as explained above). Just because they choose to use more barbiturates doesn't mean that 6 grams is NOT a lethal dose. When it comes to overdose, more is obviously going to be better... This is all covered in the Guide to a Humane and Self-Chosen Death book (in the Resources section on here) and I'd recommend everyone read it, as it's much better than PPeH in my opinion.

I definitely agree with you about the taste. The fear of the taste is much worse than the reality of the taste and tasting it has just steeled my resolve that it's achievable.
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

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Mar 23, 2018
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This dude is describing the taste of N shortly. (SORRY ITS SECONAL; MY MISTAKE) He says it tastes woody.


That was amazing !!! That is how I wish I could go. :smiling:
I won't have the support of anyone and I will have to do it alone.
 
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Superfluous

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This is all covered in the Guide to a Humane and Self-Chosen Death book (in the Resources section on here) and I'd recommend everyone read it, as it's much better than PPeH in my opinion.
Thanks for the info. Not directly linked in the resource list, but for those interested, it's in the Downloads section under Yandex Drive: Books, Videos, Resources.
 
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Struggling

Struggling

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Feb 6, 2019
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One bottle is ample for frail elderly person. Two is for what is deemed as a healthy person with no physical impairments. One and half bottles is optimum as I've heard the dr n declare.
 
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Taylor

Taylor

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Dec 23, 2018
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Mix it with some OJ/Alcohol, numb your tongue with lidocaine, pinch your nose, swallow as fast as possible and eat a sweet piece of chocolate afterwards. Not much else you can do.
Man, aside from the OJ/Alcohol (optional imo), I wish a mod could pin this post. Textbook.
 
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Derek Humphrey in Final Exit suggests diluting this taste by using 4 packets of artificial sweetener in fruit juice (amount not given). In the Guide to a Self-Chosen and Humane Death, peach or apricot nectar is suggested. I've also read of 2 individual cases that both used apple juice (half a bottle but amount was unspecified). In the literature, there are hundreds of cases where no mixer is used, perhaps just alcohol or chocolate afterwards, like suggested in the PPeH. I was personally thinking maple syrup could work well but I haven't decided yet.

There's lots of different suggestions but I think the theme here is similar in everything I've read... Something sugary and super sweet will help make it slightly easier. Before, During or After. It will NOT be easy, but nothing about dying is easy. What you choose just comes down to your personal preference I think.
 
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Jenna

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Nov 21, 2018
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I'm sorry if it was posted but how do you get the cap off? I don't want to break it. I'm not sure how you are supposed to use tweezers. The cap came off but I don't know how to get the rest open.
 
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Solo

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Pulling off the cap already removes the central metal
 
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Derek Humphrey in Final Exit suggests diluting this taste by using 4 packets of artificial sweetener in fruit juice (amount not given). In the Guide to a Self-Chosen and Humane Death, peach or apricot nectar is suggested. I've also read of 2 individual cases that both used apple juice (half a bottle but amount was unspecified). In the literature, there are hundreds of cases where no mixer is used, perhaps just alcohol or chocolate afterwards, like suggested in the PPeH. I was personally thinking maple syrup could work well but I haven't decided yet.

There's lots of different suggestions but I think the theme here is similar in everything I've read... Something sugary and super sweet will help make it slightly easier. Before, During or After. It will NOT be easy, but nothing about dying is easy. What you choose just comes down to your personal preference I think.

None of these will work. Numb your mouth, hold ur nose and drink. Then you can try something if you get the aftertaste.
Don't swallow like a idiot like me if ur taste testing or else Youll be literally half dead like me for 3 days and going lol I have 0 tolerance and it hit me like a truck then again I did take like 10ml
 
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I did a sleep test with N and the only thing that helped was brushing my teeth. Alcohol, water, and chocolate did nothing to mask the taste.
 
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Jenna

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Nov 21, 2018
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Thank you. I feel like I have one shot and I can't fail and fall asleep. I wanted to at least try it first so I am prepared. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

@Loothead3 do you feel like it helped you know what to expect?
 
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Solo

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Thank you. I feel like I have one shot and I can't fail and fall asleep. I wanted to at least try it first so I am prepared. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

@Loothead3 do you feel like it helped you know what to expect?
I got a dizzy feeling until I laid down . Btw I'm not saying I cant try all those sweetness or whatever it could help slightly and adding more mls is bad only if u can't get it down fast enough
 
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Feb 21, 2019
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PPH did recommend orange juice. I wonder if enough that would work. And we still have to remember that one bottle is already over the lethal limit so it does give us some freedom to blend it with something. Maybe 200ml of N and 600ml of strong orange juice.

Do you reckon orange squash would be just as good as orange juice?


I'd advise against adding other substances to mask the taste as you said. You will just increase the volume from 200ml to 200ml plus however much you add to it. Thats more too drink and the general consensus on 8ch is that nothing will mask it. If you do attempt to mask it use mouth sprays instead.

Good advice. I've already purchased Lidocaine spray shame it's bloody banana flavour. I hate bananas. If anybody can find one tasting of strawberry or blackcurrant flavour that would be much appreciated.

I cannot decide if I'm screwed or lucky. I hate alcohol and chocolate. The two main things recommended to mask the taste.


Okay, I put about 5-10ml in a glass and added some orange juice, like 50ml. Though I did the error of buying orange juice that wasn't sweetened enough. I took a sip and the bitterness still came through, it was little bit softer though, got caught in your throught though. Then I added two big spoons on sugar, it seemed to help the case. You can taste the bitterness at that start, but it's doable and the bitterness doesn't really stay in your throat.

Interesting. I'll try this when I test my N.
 
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Vegrau

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Can we make inject the N into a hollowed out pudding or something? So we just swallow the whole pudding like how we swallow pills?
 
Jenna

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I tasted a tiny bit. Maybe half a tbsp. . I was stunned by how affected I was. It's 24 hours later and I still don't feel I can drive a car. I expected a worse taste. It wasn't pleasant but I think if you are ready to go for me it was very doable. I was very very harmed by pharmaceuticals taken as prescribed and have been at this for years. That is my story.
 
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Apr 9, 2019
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Okay, so.... Either you commit to living and take your lumps (of which there will be MANY — I promise you) OR you drink something unpleasant and escape this hellhole. Seems pretty clear to me. Toughen up, buttercup.
 
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Suicideisnirvana

Suicideisnirvana

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Aug 4, 2018
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Honestly i don't care, i'd drink piss if it would kill me. What scares me is physical torture, physical pain, i don't care much for a sour taste.
 
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Taylor

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What if you add liquid artificial sweetener, one of those used for diabetic / dieting people? They have super hi sweetening power with few drops. I have one that is acsulfame-k and cyclamate, a dozen of drops sweeten like a spoonful of sugar when using with coffee.
This is what I'm considering. I had to get a colonoscopy (gross I know) for my terrible ibs issues a few years back to rule out colitis and all of that stuff, and the prep for it is terrible. You literally have to mix this powder into about a gallon and a half of water and drink it all 24 hours before the procedure to completely clear out your system. It tastes awful but they tell you to mix it with like lemon crystal light so it's actually palatable, and it honestly didn't taste so awful then. The lemon crystal light masked it just enough to actually drink it like anything else. Oh and this is huge too, it was much easier to drink when it was refrigerated first altogether. I would gag if it was any warmer otherwise.
 
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LastFlowers

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Apr 27, 2019
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I worry about any method that takes any amount of time..I just know somehow I will start panicking.
I can't have time to think while I CTB. I have to do all that before hand.
Trying to find a way that is BAM! done. But also accessible with a very high success rate.
I wish I just had a big red button.
And it would either solve my reason for CTBing or put an end to me instantly. I would not need to know which it would be. Just that I was at the end of the line and could press that big red button.
 
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Monster

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Sorry if this was already answered, there's a lot to read, but can you compare the taste to something (other than chemicals I guess)? Like vodka, or hand sanitizer or some other cleaning agent (like when you've used something and then licked your fingers with it still there or something, idk), bad nuts, something else? I heard something about N having 10% alcohol or something so if it's anything like vodka then ew. If I convince myself to use N then I'll probably get myself a feeding tube.
 
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JadedGray

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This is what I'm considering. I had to get a colonoscopy (gross I know) for my terrible ibs issues a few years back to rule out colitis and all of that stuff, and the prep for it is terrible. You literally have to mix this powder into about a gallon and a half of water and drink it all 24 hours before the procedure to completely clear out your system. It tastes awful but they tell you to mix it with like lemon crystal light so it's actually palatable, and it honestly didn't taste so awful then. The lemon crystal light masked it just enough to actually drink it like anything else. Oh and this huge too, it was much easier to drink when it was refrigerated first altogether. I would gag if it was any warmer otherwise.
I had to have that procedure done for IBS as well. I had to drink the stuff (Pico Salax) at room temperature. The effects of that stuff once it kicked in was almost as bad as the Colonoscopy. The only benefit of having a lot of health problems is that I'm so used to tasting terrible things, that the taste of N won't bother me.
 
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Putridsoul

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Aug 19, 2018
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A bit unrelated to the topic, but can anyone advice me in how to get it? I want to take it as soon as posible.
 
Taylor

Taylor

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Dec 23, 2018
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I had to have that procedure done for IBS as well. I had to drink the stuff (Pico Salax) at room temperature. The effects of that stuff once it kicked in was almost as bad as the Colonoscopy. The only benefit of having a lot of health problems is that I'm so used to tasting terrible things, that the taste of N won't bother me.
Exactly! Haha.
 
JadedGray

JadedGray

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Jul 24, 2018
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A bit unrelated to the topic, but can anyone advice me in how to get it? I want to take it as soon as posible.
You have to contact A using Protonmail. His email address is in the PPeH on pg. 280.
 
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Monster

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Apr 26, 2019
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Another question that I really hope can be answered: if it's anything like alcohol (which I hate), can it be masked slightly with sour tastes rather than something sweet? Like, most people say try fruity cocktails when you dislike the taste of alcohol but what I found was that sour/bitter things (like lemon/lime and mint) helped take the edge off because it's sort of similar to the alcohol but something I like (I absolutely love lemons and limes, I'll eat lemons whole with a spoon). It's not trying to go in the completely opposite direction (sweet), but a "similar" taste that can be pretty strong to overpower it enough.

So, thoughts? Is it anything like alcohol? Will adding sour make it more palatable or will it be as futile as sweeteners?
 
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May 18, 2019
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Thanks for your input
I really don't think this method would be as easy as it seems. You just have to force you through it while you are drinking it. Committing the action should be easy, otherwise ctb won't be successful. The action should be a one time brief thing and there should be no way back. I think that's how you do it if you are really serious.
 
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