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Sir_nihilist

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I read a post from someone that survived 25 grams SN as advised.

And I realise there is a small chance of failing even with this dose, so I want to take two times that dose in two glasses. I just want to make sure I have 0 chances of failing.

Will that make me vomit? Is that a bad idea?
 
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I'm in the same boat. I am planning to do somewhere between 25 and 30g and hoping for the best. I'm about 200 pounds so I just want to be sure I take enough of it that I don't fail. It will probably make me vomit but I'll have a backup or two waiting so hopefully it all works out.
 
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I think you run more risk due to the volume of,liquid consumed or the SN inducing more,vomitting. The only reported failure that didn't involve being found or calling police was due to vomiting. Redosing is preferable, as you will likely vomit either way.

said another way, the doses already being used are far in excess what is needed.
 
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He probably didn't take meto beforehand, puked SN out and survived.
Preparing 2-3 glasses is a good idea, just don't chug them in one go. Even stat dose of meto probably wouldn't handle that and you'd puke your guts out.
 
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Sir_nihilist

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The case I am talking about, can be found in my profile and the guy didn't puke. He is in hospital currently.
 
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@Sir_nihilist
25 grams is already much more than necessary to kill you. Can you link to this thread you are talking about?
 
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I'm pretty sure @Aap is correct.
 
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the only attempt by a person on their page, is of someone who didn't take the correct amount of SN and used too much water. they aren't in hospital either. I assume this is what they are talking about so saying they took 25g and failed is wrong
 
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Feel free to link it, as I do not see what you are referring to.
 
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If you meant what i was talking about

(Suicide attempt) SN

This is the only attempt i could see on their page
 
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5g of SN are lethal. 25g are just to ensure.
 
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I wouldn't recommend taking more than 25g of SN, the chances of vomiting are higher and it might cause unneccessary pain.
 
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If you meant what i was talking about

(Suicide attempt) SN

This is the only attempt i could see on their page

Thank you for sharing the link.

@Sir_nihilist, I gave you an angry react so folks could see it and know to doubt your OP. The person who drank the SN didn't do anything as advised. It was not 25g, it was considerably more than 50ml of water, and he didn't finish it.

In addition, the angry react is because there's yet another fear-mongering and pro-lifey wave happening on the forum for the past several days. I am most displeased about the fear-mongering and blatant disinformation in your OP and so expressed my displeasure.

Edit: I am not accusing the OP of being a pro-lifer, however it's crappy timing that he posted fear-mongering founded in disinformation at the same time that fear-mongering and pro-lifery are happening in one of their regular predictable waves. The wave is displeasing, and the original post compounds that displeasure for me.
 
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Thank you for sharing the link.

@Sir_nihilist, I gave you an angry react so folks could see it and know to doubt your OP. The person who drank the SN didn't do anything as advised. It was not 25g, it was considerably more than 50ml of water, and he didn't finish it.

In addition, the angry react is because there's yet another fear-mongering and pro-lifey wave happening on the forum for the past several days. I am most displeased about the fear-mongering and blatant disinformation in your OP and so expressed my displeasure.
What was that bon jovi song again? That's it... You gave SN, a bad name
 
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Thank you for sharing the link.

@Sir_nihilist, I gave you an angry react so folks could see it and know to doubt your OP. The person who drank the SN didn't do anything as advised. It was not 25g, it was considerably more than 50ml of water, and he didn't finish it.

In addition, the angry react is because there's yet another fear-mongering and pro-lifey wave happening on the forum for the past several days. I am most displeased about the fear-mongering and blatant disinformation in your OP and so expressed my displeasure.

1) I am not pro life.
2) I can doubt anything I want.
3) my question was if I will vomit or not.

Period
 
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I read a post from someone that survived 25 grams SN as advised

Yes sir_nihilist you can doubt anything that you want (in your mind). It becomes a problem when you make totally inaccurate statements as if they are the truth (on an open forum).

As I pointed out on that thread...
The SN was not measured (& is unlikely to have been 25grams)
The water was not measured & was definitely more than 50mls.
The whole amount was not consumed.

Therefore: That person did not take it "as advised." & I'm not sure why you'd doubt that since they admitted it!

Just follow Stans guide. He went to the trouble of researching & putting it all together for everyone. It is as close to guaranteed as you are going to get as long as you measure everything & don't mess around with the doses. More does not equal more successful.
 
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I'll have a backup or two waitin
I have yet to hear of anyone drinking a second glass of that after vomiting. They are weak and sick from it.
1) I am not pro life.
2) I can doubt anything I want.
3) my question was if I will vomit or not.
You did not sound "fear mongering and pro-lifey" to me at all. Just put people on ignore who insult and accuse you of things.
I was asking questions about possible bad effects of SN too and got accused of being pro-life. God forbid someone asks questions about possible bad side effects from it. They get bullied. I've noticed a few people routinely love any excuse to bully.
 
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1) I am not pro life.
2) I can doubt anything I want.
3) my question was if I will vomit or not.

Period

Just to clarify...

1) I said there is a fear-mongering and pro-lifey wave on the forum. I said that your post contained fear-mongering and disinformation. I made a point to not specifically accuse you of pro-life, but to place your post in the context of what is currently happening on the forum, which is cause for irritation, and is compounded by more of the same -- fear-mongering founded in disinformation. I have edited the post where I discussed this to make clear that I ain't sayin' you're a pro-lifer (but you ain't messin' with no...crap, I can't come up with a rhyme).

2) I said that my angry react was to encourage readers to doubt the veracity of your statements, which @DyingAlf and I both pointed out were in error.

3) Just to be pedantic, you actually asked two questions: will double the dose make you vomit, and is it a bad idea. There is always a chance SN will make one vomit, it's been reported in over 50% of anecdotes. Taking double is a bad idea, but you can do the research for yourself, there are plenty of reference tools on the forum and you'll find them in the pinned Suicide Resource Compilation.

Maxi pad.
 
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I said that your post contained fear-mongering and disinformation.
No it did not contain "fear mongering". Just because someone is wondering about possible bad or painful reactions to something does not equate to fear mongering.

Enough insinuating anyone is fear mongering or pro life. Stop accusing people of that.
 
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No it did not contain "fear mongering". Just because someone is wondering about possible bad or painful reactions to something does not equate to fear mongering.

Enough insinuating anyone is fear mongering or pro life. Stop accusing people of that.
Let it go. This thread has not been useful, and gives a poor impression of how useful SN can be as a viable method to ctb.

OP made inaccurate claims, the person he is referring to did not take the SN "as advised". These claims could dissuade someone from choosing SN, or worry them more than necessary.

I don't think he was trying to "fear monger", because I don't think OP was deliberately trying to make SN look bad, but I'm sure you can understand why some users are slightly vexed.
 
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I read a post from someone that survived 25 grams SN as advised.

And I realise there is a small chance of failing even with this dose, so I want to take two times that dose in two glasses. I just want to make sure I have 0 chances of failing.

Will that make me vomit? Is that a bad idea?
25-30g is more than enough. The reason it is not suggested to take more than this, is because the more you take, the greater the risk of vomiting.
If you ingest and hold down 25g of SN, following the PPHB or Stan's guide, you will die.
I know exactly what's going on here because I've been seeing it repeatedly on this forum. Accusing people of being fear mongering is bullying.
So far, you have been the most aggressive/bullying person on this thread.
This will be my last reply.
 
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Who did I bully? Where?
I said I wasn't gonna reply again, but I changed my mind just because I just want anyone reading this thread to know you deleted a load of posts.
i.e the one I quoted part of in my last reply ^^^

I didn't say you're a bully, I said you are being the most aggressive/bullying one here - I know you know this to be true, which is why you went and edited/deleted many posts

Other people such as @GoodPersonEffed are calm in explaining their criticisms/opinions/grievances.

I won't be replying again because internet arguments are pointless and draining, please have a good day:)
 
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I said I wasn't gonna reply again, but I changed my mind just because I just want anyone reading this thread to know you deleted a load of posts.
i.e the one I quoted part of in my last reply ^^^

I didn't say you're a bully, I said you are being the most aggressive/bullying one here - I know you know this to be true, which is why you went and edited/deleted many posts
If you said I was being bullying that is calling me a bully. Stop attacking me. I didn't come at you, you came at me. You are bullying me. You have a good day too.
I just want anyone reading this thread to know you deleted a load of posts.
And I just want anyone reading this to know this is what bullying looks like on this forum.
 
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Sir_nihilist

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Good lord
You have one question and quote 1 failed attempt for why you have that question.

And people get vexed for you not mentioning why the attempt failed.

That is not me fear mongering, I myself had doubts after reading that guy. I am in a situation where I cannot afford to fail in my attempt.

So we all can chill and thanks for the answer i wont double dose based on your replies.
 
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Let's all chill. Please let us not attack or bash anyone else. This website is supposed to be a safe haven for all of us. We are all in pain every day. Depression has United us. If we have different opinions, let's discuss them calmly guys. I hope that you all can work this out. We need to stick together! It's basically the DEPRESSOS vs PROLIFOS(haha, see what I did there??)We need to be there for one another!!!


I'm not posting this to belittle anyone at all whosoever. It's more so to hopefully remind you all why we came here in the first place: A good Community, one whom is there for one another :)
 
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Let's all chill. Please let us not attack or bash anyone else. This website is a supposed to be a safe haven for all of us. We are all in pain every day. Depression has United us all together. If we have different opinions, let's discuss them calmly guys. I hope that you all work this out. We need to stick together... DEPRESSOS vs PROLIFOS... We need to be there for one another!!!


I'm not posting this to belittle anyone at all whosoever. It's more so to hopefully remind you all why we came here in the first place: A good Community, one whom is there for one another :)
Yeah tell them Guinea pig.....
 
Meditation guide

Meditation guide

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Yeah tell them Guinea pig.....
You can believe that if I hear someone who is asking earnest questions about SN being called fear mongering I'm going to mention it. I'm sick and tired of it.
 
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