Sweet death with sn is a lie

[1000winds]

i'm still yet to order my SN but i already have 40mg of olanzapine as AE. i tend to vomit quite easily and quickly and im worried this AE wont be enough.

 

[LastFlowers]

Others have reported a sense of suffocation internalised, which seems stronger than a simple shortness of breath

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...m-actually-dying-sn.77177/page-4#post-1386849

Wth.

What I notice is its not that most people who have actually tried say its painless its just that those people are the only ones that most of you choose to listen to I guess unless you actually have tried it yourself or sat next to someone who has and watched you shouldn't really come on here n go at the people who have how the f would you know otherwise you guys just call everyone who tells you otherwise they're fake lying trolls try it for yourselves first and if you survive through ambulance whatever then you get a say otherwise give it a rest

Do you have evidence that there are actually more cases of it being painful and uncomfortable than not, which are being ignored?
Where are the numbers? The side by side?
Where is the data or collection to compare in order to reach your conclusion?

 

[Euthanza]

and this scares me, knowing for years that dying is the only solution and at the same time not being able to die is distressing. my suffering is authentic, I am not going through a phase, I know for sure that there is nothing left for me but to die.

Survival after self‐poisoning with sodium nitrite: A case report

Sodium nitrite ingestion poses a considerable public health threat. The incidence of sodium nitrite self‐poisoning in the United States has been trending upward since 2017. Our case report describes an intentional sodium nitrite ingestion with ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A tablespoon is roughly 15 grams, a teaspoon is roughly 5.
So, 2 teaspoon is about 10 grams of SN, plus panic call, no wonder the guy failed, it's an accident half of the fatal dose (20-25 gram).

 

[summers]

There are definitely faster ways to die than sn. Keep in mind, even though sn is a poison, it's not designed to kill. It's main purpose it curing meat.

You want to die as quickly as possible, it's not going to be by ingestion - it's going to be by injection, firearm, jumping, or explosion.

 

[LastFlowers]

Yes I have it was painful and when I came on here I got bullied by a number of people being called a liar even people insisting my intelligence and I've seen loads of posts of people stating they've had bad experiences and watched the same thing happen to them people believe what they wanna believe but when you all try it for ya selves you'll see until maybe be a little kinder to people were all here for the same reason clearly we all hate life it fucking sucks we're supposed to be able to talk about our failed experiences so we cam figure out where we went wrong and be successful next time and find the most peaceful way to go lots of people on here are just damn Ryde and mean and just add even more pain on top of an already intolerable existence

Did you follow the regimen?
Were you found?
What happened?

And where are all these other similar experiences you speak of?

I don't want to completely dismiss you as I have experienced being the victim of lesser known side effects of certain medications/products/procedures and I know how hostile people can become when you give your negative experience regarding something others cling to as their last hope/claim works for them.
However, I would still need to see a little more supportive evidence, even if anecdotal.

 

[nolifer]

some people seem ignorant to the fact that not all suicidal people are in extreme physical or mental suffering, so much that any method of ctb is childs play. Yes for those people a moment of pain is nothing compared to another day/week/month/year of suffering. But there are many suicidal people who want to ctb for more logical reasons instead of the former category which are more emotional reasons. Both groups deserve respect and should be taken seriously. Open your minds.
And yes, like LastFlowers said, we need to see more evidence in discussions. "they said...." arguments is not evidence, at least not scientific evidence. People can say anything. Propaganda. Some people want to scare others from ctb, and others want to encourage. You don't know if they are telling the truth or if they know what they're talking about. Anxiety/panic attacks is known to make people feel like they have shortness of breath for example. So please stick to scientific evidence, not testimonies. It doesn't matter how many people said something or believe in something if there's no scientific evidence behind it.

 

[LastFlowers]

There are definitely faster ways to die than sn. Keep in mind, even though sn is a poison, it's not designed to kill. It's main purpose it curing meat.

You want to die as quickly as possible, it's not going to be by ingestion - it's going to be by injection, firearm, jumping, or explosion.

Unfortunately most of us don't have access to a firearm or explosive device (I would actually prefer for this body to be blown to pieces..if that was an option).

Plus all of those come with risks of their own, SN is more favored in that way, as failure seems to result in little to no permanent damage whereas failing with one of the more instantaneous methods would mean massive damage for the individual.

Though, I have to say..I do hate the prolonged aspect of SN. I'm not looking forward to the wait, not in the slightest.

 

[nolifer]

And yes, like LastFlowers said, we need to see more evidence in discussions. "they said...." arguments is not evidence, at least not scientific evidence. People can say anything. Propaganda. Some people want to scare others from ctb, and others want to encourage. You don't know if they are telling the truth or if they know what they're talking about. Anxiety/panic attacks is known to make people feel like they have shortness of breath for example. So please stick to scientific evidence, not testimonies. It doesn't matter how many people said something or believe in something if there's no scientific evidence behind it.

 

[summers]

Unfortunately most of us don't have access to a firearm or explosive device (I would actually prefer for this body to be blown to pieces..if that was an option).

Plus all of those come with risks of their own, SN is more favored in that way, as failure seems to result in little to no permanent damage whereas failing with one of the more instantaneous methods would mean massive damage for the individual.

Though, I have to say..I do hate the prolonged aspect of SN. I'm not looking forward to the wait, not in the slightest.

OD on fentanyl, carfentanyl, or even heroin only takes seconds. All are as cheap as sn, especially when you consider the ancillaries needed for that method. Also, you can have a nice last meal, and even inject a little to get high and reduce si before the fatal dose.

 

[LastFlowers]

some people seem ignorant to the fact that not all suicidal people are in extreme physical or mental suffering, so much that any method of ctb is childs play. Yes for those people a moment of pain is nothing compared to another day/week/month/year of suffering. But there are many suicidal people who want to ctb for more logical reasons instead of the former category which are more emotional reasons. Both groups deserve respect and should be taken seriously. Open your minds.
And yes, like LastFlowers said, we need to see more evidence in discussions. "they said...." arguments is not evidence, at least not scientific evidence. People can say anything. Propaganda. Some people want to scare others from ctb, and others want to encourage. You don't know if they are telling the truth or if they know what they're talking about. Anxiety/panic attacks is known to make people feel like they have shortness of breath for example. So please stick to scientific evidence, not testimonies. It doesn't matter how many people said something or believe in something if there's no scientific evidence behind it.

Appreciate the support, but I have a question..when you say "for more logical reasons", what would you consider for that category?
Isn't wanting to die from extreme physical or mental suffering the opposite of illogical?

Sorry, I was just confused by the wording and what "former" was referring to.

Did you mean for more philosophical or distant reasons?
Because I guess the argument against that is the question of whether the person should really be resorting to suicide in the first place, if they're not even experiencing the suffering that leads to it.
(Not that I'm going to stop them.)
I guess that goes right back to how desperate or not a person is, and what they're willing to do to end their torment.
If sufficient torment does not exist then surely the desperation must wane, and then, like you implied, willingness to endure the side effects is less likely to be present.

 

[nolifer]

Appreciate the support, but I have a question..when you say "for more logical reasons", what would you consider for that category?
Isn't wanting to die from extreme physical or mental suffering the opposite of illogical?

Sorry, I was just confused by the wording and what "former" was referring to.

Did you mean for more philosophical or distant reasons?
Because I guess the argument against that is the question of whether the person should really be resorting to suicide in the first place, if they're not even experiencing the suffering that leads to it.
(Not that I'm going to stop them.)
I guess that goes right back to how desperate or not a person is, and what they're willing to do to end their torment.
If sufficient torment does not exist then surely the desperation must wane, and then, like you implied, willingness to endure the side effects is less likely to be present.

Good questions and you're not wrong.
Both categories actually have both logic and emotion, but I like to think each group leans more towards one of them. The reason I say the people in great pain every day are the emotional group is because pain is an emotion, but yes, it's also logical to want to ctb if you're in pain, but the core reason is because of emotion.
The logical category have logic is the core reason, which like you said is probably accurately also called philosophical. But their logical reasons will vary, it's not like everyone have the same reason. Personally I think it's a combination of an anti-natalism and a nihilistic philosphy/logic which is the core reason behind this group. They also have emotional pain but it's in part caused by the logic, and their emotional pain isn't as typically great as the emotional category of suicidal people, although it can eventually grow to the same level.

 

[blue_muse]

There seem to be a lot of new members saying almost everyday that SN is painful or doesn't work. i hardly ever heard this if at all in 2019 2020 . i don't buy what they new ones are saying.

But i also hear this about most other methods too not just SN that they will be painful etc.

I did see a lot of members over the years take a full dose of SN get sent to the ER and resuscitated and all the ones i saw said SN was not painful.

Also the PPH and exit say that almost all the SN cases were peaceful and effective 25/25 effective from one report i saw on the SN megathread.

I'm so glad you and others are noticing the scare-tactics used by some of the new members.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Not sure I believe this but my perspective:

Difficulty breathing would get to me, not looking forward to that as I have no experience with it.
Fast heart beat would be ok, it's the same from exerting yourself really hard.
'Excruciating' abdominal pain would be unpleasant but I can definitely endure that, used to it. I doubt it will happen, too.

None of this can dissaude me personally from SN.

 

[Shu]

What other sites?
What interview?
Where?

Do you have links? I would like to read/hear what was said so I can inform myself properly.

True, but to play devil's advocate, several of those people could have been lying.
This site is not immune from attention seekers.

That? I think someone already made a thread about that case and why it could have failed so miserably..

What about the interview?
Where can I find that?

Last Flowers.. please.. I mean no harm... what was the point in bringing this thread back up?

Unfortunately most of us don't have access to a firearm or explosive device (I would actually prefer for this body to be blown to pieces..if that was an option).

Plus all of those come with risks of their own, SN is more favored in that way, as failure seems to result in little to no permanent damage whereas failing with one of the more instantaneous methods would mean massive damage for the individual.

Though, I have to say..I do hate the prolonged aspect of SN. I'm not looking forward to the wait, not in the slightest.

Exactly and some people obviously don't think about these kind of things before they make these kind of comments and then they continue to make these comments over and over when so many people don't even have access to a lot of these things. Disregard my last comment as I'm reading through I understand why you brought this post back on and I completely agree with you. You asked one of the users if they follow the regimen no they did not follow the regimen from what I remember.

Good questions and you're not wrong.
Both categories actually have both logic and emotion, but I like to think each group leans more towards one of them. The reason I say the people in great pain every day are the emotional group is because pain is an emotion, but yes, it's also logical to want to ctb if you're in pain, but the core reason is because of emotion.
The logical category have logic is the core reason, which like you said is probably accurately also called philosophical. But their logical reasons will vary, it's not like everyone have the same reason. Personally I think it's a combination of an anti-natalism and a nihilistic philosphy/logic which is the core reason behind this group. They also have emotional pain but it's in part caused by the logic, and their emotional pain isn't as typically great as the emotional category of suicidal people, although it can eventually grow to the same level.

Pain is an emotion... hm.. I bit confused on this one...

Not sure I believe this but my perspective:

Difficulty breathing would get to me, not looking forward to that as I have no experience with it.
Fast heart beat would be ok, it's the same from exerting yourself really hard.
'Excruciating' abdominal pain would be unpleasant but I can definitely endure that, used to it. I doubt it will happen, too.

None of this can dissaude me personally from SN.

They can mention excruciating stomach pain all they want I've gone through tons and tons and tons of threads as I keep mentioning over and over and over and over again there have been maybe two or three people that I've read that mention stomach pain unless the others went through it and they were never able to mention that. I spoke to several people who survived as well and there was no stomach pain. Like I really don't understand why these threads even keep getting brought up again. I really need to take my time away from this website and focus on my ultimate goal which is to make a nice salty drink drink that bad boy down in one shot and lay back and wait for death to take me.

 

[Shu]

Yes sweet death is a lie I heard that it makes your skin melt off your bones it makes your eyeballs pop out of your skull and it makes your arms twist behind your back until they pop out of the socket and it makes your legs crack in half and it's summons the chupacabra to come come and eat your body. I heard the chupacabra loves flesh that has salt added to it. Be warned. After reading this post I took the entire kilo of SN to the land fill for them to dispose of it properly. I will now hang myself in the attic with an electrical cord. SN is very scary.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Pain is an emotion... hm.. I bit confused on this one...

Yeah, I don't get this either. "Emotional" pain maybe can be argued it is an emotion, I suppose. Not physical pain, though.

 

[y0dha]

gosh i'm tired of people trying to contradict every report we have, I'm glad Shu is here.
I wish people were not as silly on internet and tried to do research before affirming things, or if they were not sure they would actually ask questions instead of affirming things but I guess most people are not logical or are not very intelligent.
Sorry but i'm really really tired of this kind of behaviours cause i see this everywhere on the inernet. I wish people were more mature or more intelligent overall.

 

[Rainy]

Hi,
I have been researching suicide methods for over a year and hhave decided on SN. I want to thank everyone on this site for your comments and information. I have truly never felt so alone with my decision to die rather than live with this debilitating pain and emotional anguish in my life. Without the help here, I don't know what I would have resorted to. My friends all think "things will get better " but I know otherwise. I'm 73. Have severe spinal stenosis plus fibro myalgia and my husband of 40 years just died of pancreatic cancer. I am done fighting for pain relief as they cut my pain pills in half "for my own good". They are cya only as I sit in so much pain my eyes water(and not from crying). I plan on taking it after I write my will (again) and write some letters. I wish you all well and self determination is all we have left!
with dignity,
Rainy

 

[Hope:-)]

These threads terrify me...

 

[Shu]

gosh i'm tired of people trying to contradict every report we have, I'm glad Shu is here.
I wish people were not as silly on internet and tried to do research before affirming things, or if they were not sure they would actually ask questions instead of affirming things but I guess most people are not logical or are not very intelligent.
Sorry but i'm really really tired of this kind of behaviours cause i see this everywhere on the inernet. I wish people were more mature or more intelligent overall.

Sorry that was a very immature response from me I was probably high on caffeine when I typed that.

Hi,
I have been researching suicide methods for over a year and hhave decided on SN. I want to thank everyone on this site for your comments and information. I have truly never felt so alone with my decision to die rather than live with this debilitating pain and emotional anguish in my life. Without the help here, I don't know what I would have resorted to. My friends all think "things will get better " but I know otherwise. I'm 73. Have severe spinal stenosis plus fibro myalgia and my husband of 40 years just died of pancreatic cancer. I am done fighting for pain relief as they cut my pain pills in half "for my own good". They are cya only as I sit in so much pain my eyes water(and not from crying). I plan on taking it after I write my will (again) and write some letters. I wish you all well and self determination is all we have left!
with dignity,
Rainy

Hi welcome to sasu I'm sorry that you're struggling so much and have been through so much in your life I'm also sorry about all the pain and for your husband. I really hope that you can find relief from your suffering.

 

[y0dha]

Sorry that was a very immature response from me I was probably high on caffeine when I typed that.

no you actually made fun of very well of the usual questioners we get. I was actually praising you cause you always here giving infos about SN.

 

[DarkRocket]

To me SN does not sound as horrible as some other methods like hanging and drowning and I would personally choose it over them. However I do believe that suicide should always be peaceful and people should not have to spend their last moments in pain. We have already suffered so much in life so we should not have to suffer in the dying process. It is cruel how the society denies people the option of a peaceful exit.

Very cruel!

 

[Shu]

no you actually made fun of very well of the usual questioners we get. I was actually praising you cause you always here giving infos about SN.

I just tried to share whatever information that I have picked up on or been given I'm no expert I'm learning just like everyone else

 

[Shu]

These threads terrify me...

That's the point of these threads usually.

 

[I need peace]

I've had my own experience with SN and it was peaceful, I've had shortness of breath and a mild headache but it took less than minutes to pass out, it wasn't uncomfortable and it's still my chosen method among the ones available to me, I don't know other point to this thread unless than scaring people
Of course it isn't the best way out, but it is the one more available and peaceful

 

[freelifexit]

I've had my own experience with SN and it was peaceful, I've had shortness of breath and a mild headache but it took less than minutes to pass out, it wasn't uncomfortable and it's still my chosen method among the ones available to me, I don't know other point to this thread unless than scaring people
Of course it isn't the best way out, but it is the one more available and peaceful

According to medical articles and posts everybody reacts different.

 

[ge0rge]

According to medical articles and posts everybody reacts different.

aren t you that guy who is notoriously anti SN?

 

[freelifexit]

aren t you that guy who is notoriously anti SN?

I made several posts about dangers of SN based on medical articles, some people don't want to believe in it and become angry when see any info about risks.

I think this is how they subconsciously protect themselves from the unpleasant truth.

 

[JLP21]

How do you get holdof SN in a legal way that's the thing. Still yet to find it here in the UK without having to go through checks on the websites

 

[Hiraeth Grimoire]

I'm still going to take my chances with the fabled salt, as I don't know of a better option. It certainly must be better than some of the more gruesome alternatives.