Suicide prevention is cruelty.

[Zzzzz]

Not only does our so-called wonderful world( that is saturated with slavery and servitude of all forms , including sex slaves and human trafficking--and is potentially on the brink of WW3) expect perfect conformity to this servitude while showing great apathy towards many who need help, they also are so cruel that they actively and forcibly prevent people from opting out or relieving all their suffering through death. Instead of society being " my way or the highway," it's rather " my way or you will suffer the consequences." Pretty fucked up scenario if you ask me. I can scarely imagine a more cruel and dictatorial stance than that.

 

[Al Cappella]

Yes. Especially when it's indiscriminately applied, one size fits all. There's no question the whole system needs redoing…

 

[InezSerrano]

I think accepting that suicide can be a smart choice for some people breaks the word view of many. I feel like many people haven't really thought of why they are alive, so it scares them when someone suicides. If no one ever suicided, a normal person could feel pretty confident that life is good and worth living. We often look to others to help us evaluate the quality of our life. "If a person I knew CTB, what does that mean? they didn't seem suicidal" so this line of thought causes one to reflect on their life. The answers they find might be scary. This is why so many refuse to see suicide as something one can make a rational decision about.

I don't think this post makes much sense, sorry.

 

[Zzzzz]

I think accepting that suicide can be a smart choice for some people breaks the word view of many. I feel like many people haven't really thought of why they are alive, so it scares them when someone suicides. If no one ever suicided, a normal person could feel pretty confident that life is good and worth living. We often look to others to help us evaluate the quality of our life. "If a person I knew CTB, what does that mean? they didn't seem suicidal" so this line of thought causes one to reflect on their life. The answers they find might be scary. This is why so many refuse to see suicide as something one can make a rational decision about.

I don't think this post makes much sense, sorry.

Ahh I get it. Your saying people are too stupid to understand. People are either stupid or cruel. Pick your poison. Both traits are undesirable.

 

[InezSerrano]

Ahh I get it. Your saying people are too stupid to understand. People are either stupid or cruel. Pick your poison. Both traits are undesirable.

Well maybe they could understand if they tried, but I think understanding suicidal people makes your life worse/less happy.

 

[Forever Dead]

The so-called powers that be want to control every aspect of our lives. Soon we will need some kind of licence just to take a crap.

 

[solisoccasus]

I think accepting that suicide can be a smart choice for some people breaks the word view of many. I feel like many people haven't really thought of why they are alive, so it scares them when someone suicides. If no one ever suicided, a normal person could feel pretty confident that life is good and worth living. We often look to others to help us evaluate the quality of our life. "If a person I knew CTB, what does that mean? they didn't seem suicidal" so this line of thought causes one to reflect on their life. The answers they find might be scary. This is why so many refuse to see suicide as something one can make a rational decision about.

I don't think this post makes much sense, sorry.

Many people are i think are against suicide because of their views you know like beliefs. That if you end your own life, you'll end up somewhere but what theu don't know is if we keep on living our damn life, it's like we're living in hell also. One way or another, it's still not good to dictate whether someone should not ctb. I mean come on.

 

[InezSerrano]

Many people are i think are against suicide because of their views you know like beliefs. That if you end your own life, you'll end up somewhere but what theu don't know is if we keep on living our damn life, it's like we're living in hell also. One way or another, it's still not good to dictate whether someone should not ctb. I mean come on.

Even if they think you will go to hell. You're the one in hell, right? Not them. Why do they care?

 

[BurnBurnBurn]

No one asks to be born so why should a person be forced to live against their will? If life is hell then isn't it kinder to let a person ease their own suffering rather than give asinine comments of "it's going to get better" because let's be real, who *actually* knows that? Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it gets a whole lot worse.

 

[solisoccasus]

No one asks to be born so why should a person be forced to live against their will? If life is hell then isn't it kinder to let a person ease their own suffering rather than give asinine comments of "it's going to get better" because let's be real, who *actually* knows that? Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it gets a whole lot worse.

It doesn't get better. We don't 'get better'. It gets worse every damn time.

 

[justtiredofit]

Said this before, but some cultures/faiths throughout history, used to accept suicide and encourage it when the time came. The only reason why we're being told it's bad, unethical, against god's will, etc ... is to prevent population decline, which leads to the loss of power/money. If we could just kill ourselves easily and be with "god, " then we wouldn't need religious organizations. If we could just kill ourselves easily, how could businesses and governments make money and exert control, when so many people would be disappearing off the face of the earth. These same institutions that insist that life is so sacrosanct that we have to be stopped from dying and be medicated/locked up if we think or try to do so, are the same ones that ignore homelessness, child poverty, abuse, violence, etc... Such hypocrites.

 

[whatevs]

Many people that want to CTB then change their mind, so at least these would disagree with you. Then, for those that were really sure, I agree that it's cruel to keep them alive forcefully.

I think accepting that suicide can be a smart choice for some people breaks the word view of many. I feel like many people haven't really thought of why they are alive, so it scares them when someone suicides. If no one ever suicided, a normal person could feel pretty confident that life is good and worth living. We often look to others to help us evaluate the quality of our life. "If a person I knew CTB, what does that mean? they didn't seem suicidal" so this line of thought causes one to reflect on their life. The answers they find might be scary. This is why so many refuse to see suicide as something one can make a rational decision about.

I don't think this post makes much sense, sorry.

This is on point, I realized a while back that the strongest motivation behind the usual stance towards suicide is fear. Fear of being reminded of death, or fear of being reminded that voluntary death can be a viable option, or finally as you said fear of instilling doubts regarding the automatic high-value of life and the automatic abhorrence of suicide.

 

[YourNeighbor]

Disagree. Many who fail a suicide attempt never go on to attempt again. Many who are suicidal never attempt. Looking at suicide reasons people mention here, it is clear that many reasons are not permanent or insurmountable, even if they seem like it to the person despairing at a certain point in time.

 

[justtiredofit]

Disagree. Many who fail a suicide attempt never go on to attempt again. Many who are suicidal never attempt. Looking at suicide reasons people mention here, it is clear that many reasons are not permanent or insurmountable, even if they seem like it to the person despairing at a certain point in time.

I don't disagree that some people might have attempted impulsively, and after surviving, changed their mind. Personally I think governments should support easy VAD or create shops that sell N to allow people to do so on their own, but impose a 1-2 month waiting period to avoid impulsive thoughts. If you book an appointment for VAD or to purchase N, and you have to wait a month or two before it happens, I'd hope that only those who truly wish/need to die would still go through with it.

 

[YourNeighbor]

I don't disagree that some people might have attempted impulsively, and after surviving, changed their mind. Personally I think governments should support easy VAD or create shops that sell N to allow people to do so on their own, but impose a 1-2 month waiting period to avoid impulsive thoughts. If you book an appointment for VAD or to purchase N, and you have to wait a month or two before it happens, I'd hope that only those who truly wish/need to die would still go through with it.

1-2 months is not nearly enough to see if severe depression, anxiety, psychosis, etc. is treatable.

Everyone is free to suicide whenever they want. There is no good reason for society to subsidize/facilitate suicide, except in those extremely rare terminal/untreatable situations.

 

[FuneralCry]

You are right that suicide prevention is cruelty. It is cruel how the society tries to force us to live against our wishes and we have to resort to risky and traumatic methods to end our pain. I wish we lived in a society where our right to die is respected and then we could just exit peacefully when the time is right for us. Suicide should not be so stigmatised. The society holds this view that suicide is always wrong, irrational and must be prevented in every single case. In reality suicide can be perfectly rational in a world like this, it is a personal choice and a human right.