Suicide is the only logical answer to this chaos of randomness . Nobody should live in suffering.

[3rdworldsadness]

We never choose this fate or life, we never choose this circumstance that our parents bought us, we never choose to be unhappy, we never choose to struggle only to earn a penny at the end of the month. We never choose anything of it. Logically suicide is the only way out to this existence.

Big bang happened randomly, your life happened randomly, everything happened without a reason and just based on randommess. If anyone don't want to fight with the chaos of randomness than non existence is the logical thing and after death it does like non existence tho we will still be here in atoms/ particles but not in physical or conscious way. That is something that relieved me so much and more.

 

[itsgone2]

It's sad. It would be so much better the other way. Some meaning behind it all. Some happiness for everyone. To be born and to experience a level of suffering that makes you want to take your own life? It's just so truly awful.

 

[Canto XIII]

It's always the same issue. If existence is randomness, choosing death is equally as random. "E la vita è cosa di tanto piccolo rilievo, che l'uomo, in quanto a sé, non dovrebbe esser molto sollecito né di ritenerla né di lasciarla" (Leopardi, Operette morali 22). With all due respect, I feel like this is not the right path for making a choice.

 

[3rdworldsadness]

It's always the same issue. If existence is randomness, choosing death is equally as random. "E la vita è cosa di tanto piccolo rilievo, che l'uomo, in quanto a sé, non dovrebbe esser molto sollecito né di ritenerla né di lasciarla" (Leopardi, Operette morali 22). With all due respect, I feel like this is not the right path for making a choice.

Death or surviving is based on randomness too. We don't know what will happen. We live long to die, we live short to die too....in the end it's nothingness.

 

[Canto XIII]

Death or surviving is based on randomness too. We don't know what will happen. We live long to die, we live short to die too....in the end it's nothingness.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Since all is nothingness, dying right now is not more justified than surviving.

 

[LostZombie]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Since all is nothingness, dying right now is not more justified than surviving.

10-04

We did not exist forever and will continue to not exist forever after death so we cannot compare life and death with human terms since all human terms are applied to those who still exist, and since we cannot perceive non-existence we cannot say one is better than the other. However that does not mean one fate is better than the other, and since we will all not exist after 80ish years I see no issue with an option to skip. Both outcomes are as logical and illogical but that does not mean you must live or die, it's up to the individual human to choose what to do with their time.

 

[Canto XIII]

10-04

Is this a citation?

We did not exist forever and will continue to not exist forever after death so we cannot compare life and death with human terms since all human terms are applied to those who still exist, and since we cannot perceive non-existence we cannot say one is better than the other. However that does not mean one fate is better than the other, and since we will all not exist after 80ish years I see no issue with an option to skip. Both outcomes are as logical and illogical but that does not mean you must live or die, it's up to the individual human to choose what to do with their time.

I mostly agree. What I'm saying is exactly that this type of reasoning doesn't bring us to a rational solution, so we should seek a different approach to the issue, possibly taking different factors into account.

Edit: Oh, but maybe you were already agreeing with me, I first thought you were OP.

 

[LostZombie]

Is this a citation?

its military/police code for a yes/ackwoledged
Its the most common pharse used by civis

 

[Canto XIII]

its military/police code for a yes/ackwoledged
Its the most common pharse used by civis

Thanks! And... what are civis? (Sorry, ESL skill issue)

 

[LostZombie]

Thanks! And... what are civis? (Sorry, ESL skill issue)

Civilians (non-police)

 

[Canto XIII]

Civilians (non-police)

10-04! Thank you, I've learnt something new!

 

[Mr.Ruben]

We never choose this fate or life, we never choose this circumstance that our parents bought us, we never choose to be unhappy, we never choose to struggle only to earn a penny at the end of the month. We never choose anything of it. Logically suicide is the only way out to this existence.

Big bang happened randomly, your life happened randomly, everything happened without a reason and just based on randommess. If anyone don't want to fight with the chaos of randomness than non existence is the logical thing and after death it does like non existence tho we will still be here in atoms/ particles but not in physical or conscious way. That is something that relieved me so much and more.

I really like your argument.
if someone is not religious for the most part, I feel I was forced to be here, and can't leave by my choice as seen badly by society. but to answer your idea I would see it like a video game, I play it, I like it, I continue playing it, maybe I stop or continue, just like life (that's the way I personally see it) if I want to stop ill stop, but for now ill continue playing until it becomes unbearable

 

[niki wonoto]

We never choose this fate or life, we never choose this circumstance that our parents bought us, we never choose to be unhappy, we never choose to struggle only to earn a penny at the end of the month. We never choose anything of it. Logically suicide is the only way out to this existence.

Big bang happened randomly, your life happened randomly, everything happened without a reason and just based on randommess. If anyone don't want to fight with the chaos of randomness than non existence is the logical thing and after death it does like non existence tho we will still be here in atoms/ particles but not in physical or conscious way. That is something that relieved me so much and more.

This is a very underrated post/thread!

Thank you very much for writing this post! Yes, I agree with you too.

- from Indonesia -

 

[caotic_realm]

It sounds Mainländerian.

 

[3rdworldsadness]

It sounds Mainländerian.

What is that?

 

[caotic_realm]

What is that?

The philosophy of a man named Philipp Mainländer, whose central idea was that the purpose of the universe was death (or suicide).

 

[Captive_Mind515]

Death is an adventure into the unknown. Sometimes when you are dissatisfied with your current predicament, that strange scary unknown path can represent hope… despite not promising anything and possibly being worse, it still appeals to the mind of someone marooned in a place they know to be bad.