suicide is so selfish

[derpycool]

I want to CTB through a drug overdose. I knew some druggies so I thought I'd hang out with them for a bit in hopes of scoring some heroin. As soon as they found out that I'd attempted suicide they just went ham with their unwanted advice. I don't care that you think that suicide is selfish. They all have no idea what I've gone through and they have the audacity of saying "why are you giving up so easily". One of them even suggested that i botched my attempt on purpose because I just wanted attention. I stormed away from them.

But now the problem is that I have to find another source of heroin. It's hard enough getting heroin as it is, not even talking about the money aspect of all of it.

 

[tystero]

Maybe try convincing them? Like telling them that your death is rational and isn't impulsive and heroin is a really peaceful way to die method

 

[Outsidelessness]

I want to CTB through a drug overdose. I knew some druggies so I thought I'd hang out with them for a bit in hopes of scoring some heroin. As soon as they found out that I'd attempted suicide they just went ham with their unwanted advice. I don't care that you think that suicide is selfish. They all have no idea what I've gone through and they have the audacity of saying "why are you giving up so easily". One of them even suggested that i botched my attempt on purpose because I just wanted attention. I stormed away from them.

But now the problem is that I have to find another source of heroin. It's hard enough getting heroin as it is, not even talking about the money aspect of all of it.

One of the things I'm really glad about on this site is that someone has already made a little guide on how you could get drugs from the darknet. I would've otherwise given you detailed information on how to do it, but this certainly does the job:

How to Access Dark Net Markets For CTB Resources

So I've gotten a few PM's and questions regarding DN markers and I decided to just do a write up for those interested to better access materials for CTB methods. I'll be explaining the steps with the assumption most people will use Tor on a Windows operating system. What's Needed: Tor Browser...

sanctioned-suicide.net

If you have any questions about it I'm certainly glad to help.

 

[derpycool]

One of the things I'm really glad about on this site is that someone has already made a little guide on how you could get drugs from the darknet. I would've otherwise given you detailed information on how to do it, but this certainly does the job:

How to Access Dark Net Markets For CTB Resources

So I've gotten a few PM's and questions regarding DN markers and I decided to just do a write up for those interested to better access materials for CTB methods. I'll be explaining the steps with the assumption most people will use Tor on a Windows operating system. What's Needed: Tor Browser...

sanctioned-suicide.net

If you have any questions about it I'm certainly glad to help.

Thank you! I really appreciate the help but I am unable to make purchases online. I only have cash and that too not very much. It'll be a couple of months until I'll be able to afford heroin.

 

[Outsidelessness]

Thank you! I really appreciate the help but I am unable to make purchases online. I only have cash and that too not very much. It'll be a couple of months until I'll be able to afford heroin.

There are crypto ATMs out there that are capable of converting cash to XMR, you can simply look up "local XMR ATMs" or "local crypto ATMs" online. Otherwise, you can also just buy litecoin or ethereum from these ATMs and use changenow.io to convert your crypto to XMR. Bitcoin has shittier blockchain fees and I don't recommend using that for pre-conversion to XMR. I don't recommend buying heroin off the streets because it is more likely to be laced with something undesirable (not fentanyl, but it can be something stupid that they put in it to cheap it out).

 

[wait.what]

These folks got on their high horses with you? That's almost hilarious, except for the part about it being really sad. People who take their own lives disappoint their families once. A big 'once,' true, but at least it can be one and done. Somebody in active addiction will disappoint their families over and over and over. Stealing from Mom's purse, from kid brother's change collection, putting heirlooms into hock, and breaking and entering neighbors' houses in search of drugs or money to buy drugs. I actually think it's stupid to toss value judgments at people who are addicted, since once you're hooked, you're not exactly operating from a place of free will, you know? (You can't tell that to 12 step groups, though. Or at last I personally wouldn't try.)

The more-or-less official 12 step party platform is that active alcoholics/addicts are the most selfish humans ever to curse planet Earth with their existence. Your "druggie" friends might have a teensy little blind spot, lol,

 

[sunsetting]

Had a laugh with the addicts trying to pose as morally correct angels and stopping you from "giving up" when they are doing pretty much the same but in a slower way.

 

[derpycool]

These folks got on their high horses with you? That's almost hilarious, except for the part about it being really sad. People who take their own lives disappoint their families once. A big 'once,' true, but at least it can be one and done. Somebody in active addiction will disappoint their families over and over and over. Stealing from Mom's purse, from kid brother's change collection, putting heirlooms into hock, and breaking and entering neighbors' houses in search of drugs or money to buy drugs. I actually think it's stupid to toss value judgments at people who are addicted, since once you're hooked, you're not exactly operating from a place of free will, you know? (You can't tell that to 12 step groups, though. Or at last I personally wouldn't try.)

The more-or-less official 12 step party platform is that active alcoholics/addicts are the most selfish humans ever to curse planet Earth with their existence. Your "druggie" friends might have a teensy little blind spot, lol,

You're right. Your words made me feel much better.

Had a laugh with the addicts trying to pose as morally correct angels and stopping you from "giving up" when they are doing pretty much the same but in a slower way.

Yes, you're right. They can go and fuck themselves. Filthy hypocrites.

 

[wait.what]

Also, for U.S. folks: having been in a psyche hospital is not in itself a barrier to gun ownership. HIPAA is extremely strict about who can share your medical records and when they can do so. I suppose if the government were very worried you were a terrorist there might be a path to subpoenaing your medical records, but otherwise there's no reason for them to know. If the hospital suspects that you're a danger to yourself or others, their job isn't to ring up the ATF. They just don't let you out in the first place.

What can trip you up is if you've been formally committed by a judge. That's a matter of public record. It can screw with you in multiple ways, too … you likely won't ever be able to get a security clearance, so some careers are closed to you. A commitment proceeding in which you lost can also be used as a reason to deny you custody of your children.

It doesn't count if your family guilt trips, threatens, or otherwise emotionally manipulates you going into the hospital. It doesn't even really matter if the docs in the ER decided to put you on a 72 hour hold without your consent. They will typically come back the next day or so and try to get you to sign yourself in voluntarily. It's easier on everyone if you do.

It's only "game over" time after you sit down in front of that judge, contest your commitment to the facility you're in, and s/he says "Too bad that you don't like it. You have to stay." Then you're fucked. There's little you can do at that point. If you can afford to hire an attorney, you have a greater chance of successfully challenging the commitment, but you're likely to be long out by the time all the proper paperwork has been filed.

My advice is to always, ALWAYS cooperate with the hospital staff to the greatest extent possible. You really don't want your mental illness and general weirdnesses to become part of a court record. Well, at least I don't want MY weirdnesses documented that way.

Edit: Relatives going to the cops & begging them to deny your permit application is indeed a problem. It is something you can contest, since revoking someone's constitutional rights is a very serious thing. Again, I'd recommend a lawyer. Also, if asked, I would stress that you're not currently acutely suicidal. People who are intermittently suicidal can definitely own weapons. What everyone is worried about is you punching your own ticket soon and impulsively.

 

[hassan]

Also, for U.S. folks: having been in a psyche hospital is not in itself a barrier to gun ownership. HIPAA is extremely strict about who can share your medical records and when they can do so. I suppose if the government were very worried you were a terrorist there might be a path to subpoenaing your medical records, but otherwise there's no reason for them to know. If the hospital suspects that you're a danger to yourself or others, their job isn't to ring up the ATF. They just don't let you out in the first place.

What can trip you up is if you've been formally committed by a judge. That's a matter of public record. It can screw with you in multiple ways, too … you likely won't ever be able to get a security clearance, so some careers are closed to you. A commitment proceeding in which you lost can also be used as a reason to deny you custody of your children.

It doesn't count if your family guilt trips, threatens, or otherwise emotionally manipulates you going into the hospital. It doesn't even really matter if the docs in the ER decided to put you on a 72 hour hold without your consent. They will typically come back the next day or so and try to get you to sign yourself in voluntarily. It's easier on everyone if you do.

It's only "game over" time after you sit down in front of that judge, contest your commitment to the facility you're in, and s/he says "Too bad that you don't like it. You have to stay." Then you're fucked. There's little you can do at that point. If you can afford to hire an attorney, you have a greater chance of successfully challenging the commitment, but you're likely to be long out by the time all the proper paperwork has been filed.

My advice is to always, ALWAYS cooperate with the hospital staff to the greatest extent possible. You really don't want your mental illness and general weirdnesses to become part of a court record. Well, at least I don't want MY weirdnesses documented that way.

Edit: Relatives going to the cops & begging them to deny your permit application is indeed a problem. It is something you can contest, since revoking someone's constitutional rights is a very serious thing. Again, I'd recommend a lawyer. Also, if asked, I would stress that you're not currently acutely suicidal. People who are intermittently suicidal can definitely own weapons. What everyone is worried about is you punching your own ticket soon and impulsively.

I was in the psychiatric ward involuntary as my mother tricked me into going to the hospital. I denied any mental health problems or suicidal thoughts and still was hospitalised. Do you know what my situation is.

 

[FuneralCry]

The reality is that there could never be anything wrong with suicide no matter what people say. Their opinions are insignificant, and existence could simply never be an obligation. People who invalidate other people's feelings really do irritate me. They should have no right to act in such an insensitive way as they cannot experience life the same way as the other person after all. But anyway I believe that the best thing is to not be open about the subject of suicide with others as most people won't even try to understand.

 

[derpycool]

The reality is that there could never be anything wrong with suicide no matter what people say. Their opinions are insignificant, and existence could simply never be an obligation. People who invalidate other people's feelings really do irritate me. They should have no right to act in such an insensitive way as they cannot experience life the same way as the other person after all. But anyway I believe that the best thing is to not be open about the subject of suicide with others as most people won't even try to understand.

You make a lot of sense my friend.

 

[bolt]

I was in the psychiatric ward involuntary as my mother tricked me into going to the hospital. I denied any mental health problems or suicidal thoughts and still was hospitalised. Do you know what my situation is.

can you request your records and read what happened?