Suicide is selfish

[rhiino]

I ask the children situation is not brought up on this thread, there are plenty of other threadsfor that, I am a parent, so back off with this shit!

Don't take it so harsh only because it personally affects you, it is a valid point. You are a parent, so you should know best yourself: When deciding about getting kids, it was about you, wasn't it? You wanted kids, so you got kids. (Except it just happened, of course.) I don't condemn people for it, I just wanted to say that the world is better off when people decide to not get kids. Like @neveraskedforthis said:

Literally everything you do is ultimately out of own interest

 

[Soulless_Angel]

Don't take it so harsh only because it personally affects you, it is a valid point. You are a parent, so you should know best yourself: When deciding about getting kids, it was about you, wasn't it? You wanted kids, so you got kids. (Except it just happened, of course.) I don't condemn people for it, I just wanted to say that the world is better off when people decide to not get kids. Like @neveraskedforthis said:

I have made my points very clear on this website previously, but happy to repeat, Children for me was a natural progression not a choice, if I had my way I would not be a parent. It's not a natural thing for me to be. I love my children BUT! that is a very big but, I don't do it right, I fuck up every step of the way, I have no interest in correcting it simple as

 

[I screwed up]

Keep of agree with @Soulless_Angel .. Let's keep the kids topic separate ... Besides it is digression from the topic at hand . just my opinion u may choose to disagree / argue

 

[Life sucks]

What is "selfishness"?
Everyone is inherently selfish. Everyone's body and biology is different and they need to get what their body or self needs. Its simply a biological thing and not something to be shamed of. Even "non-selfish" or altruistic acts are essentially selfish. Whether being selfish or not doesn't matter and the context is whats important and shouldn't be used to shame or pressure others. So lets compare the two scenarios, a self thats suffering but feeding other people's "selfishness" by staying alive, its still selfish for both but the first is influenced by the selfishness of others that don't actually know their pain. In the second scenario, leaving the world and making them sad instead of living, its both selfish, they became sad because of seeing someone die but never understanding the suffering and therefore aren't actually sad because of the suffering itself and that person chose to cut suffering. Unfortunately, everyone just look at their point of view, not others point of view and thats one of the fundamental and inherent problems in life.

Selfish or selfishness are meaningless words that are used to push some choices and shame others while living as a human is completely based on self. What matters is the context and choices, not whether something is selfish or not.