Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[Darkdreamer001]

I have had a bad therapist before. I was doing some soul searching into my wife's affair to figure out what possibly went wrong. This lady flipped the whole scenario and was telling me I was being the victim and how I was attempting to make this about myself and that I wasn't thinking about my wife's feelings. One of the worst experiences I think I've ever had involving therapy. I was so mad I was tapping my foot probably as fast as I could. She asked tell me what you're thinking? I told her it'd be in my best interest to leave this situation before I say something that could possibly lead to me getting in trouble. She had the audacity to be like well I hope everything works out. The last thing I said to the therapist was that I hope she doesn't see someone who views a meeting with her as a life or death situation. That I hope she doesn't treat them like I was treated and they end up killing themselves because you failed to do the very thing you signed up to do. My therapist called me to apologize about the encounter with this therapist. I guess this wasn't the first time her therapy sessions were awful and she was fired.

I had the same thing happen to me the difference was I went on a deep soul searching vacation and went to Sedona, AZ. I get there and it's beautiful and for the most part the people are nice. I got to talk to different spiritual people. On one of my sessions I had to talk with some kind of energy healer. When I met her I got some strange vibes from her but I went ahead anyways. Personally, I don't really believe in it but I'm so desperate for help that I'll try just about anything. So, I get there and she looks at me like she wants to hurry up and get it over with. I told her how I was getting bullied at work and some other things going on and it seemed to go right over her head. The meeting wasn't healing at all. I didn't have to tell her that felt suicidal, it's pretty obvious that I'm hurting inside. She was rude but I still remained polite. I know that everyone isn't like that but a little curtsey can go long way.

 

[TheLostCause]

Ive had people tell me the exact same thing 'Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem'. Its not, its a permanent problem, i have personality disorders, yes i could improve a little but ultimately they are never going away. They are going to be with me for the rest of my life, i can't get away from them. Sounds pretty permanent to me.

 

[CoalmineCanary]

"Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."

This is at best a weak attempt to argue against something that may be rational for the person who is considering suicide. For example if a person is terminally ill and is facing a long painful death. How cruel would this be to say to a person with Multiple Sclerosis?

This phrase at best gives insight into the credibility and indolence of the person using it.

Observe their reaction when you reply with, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

It may help discern what their position is on your personal struggle.

I find myself resenting this phrase the more it's used around me. Consider it a micro-aggression on the tiniest scale. It's not even covert. Then add up all these tiny occurrences and one is left feeling more helpless than hopeful.

Excuse my firmness on this matter. I find it triggering as it has been used as a weapon against me far too often with negative results.

 

[Worndown]

My therapist told me this today. Like what do pro-lifers think? That life is permanent, that we live forever? Life is a temporary problem. I tried to tell my therapist; it didn't go well. She told me I don't want to get better. It's not that. It's just a lot of bullshit pro-lifers spit out is bull shit. Anyone above an IQ of 30 can figure that out. Anyways, she threatened to hospitalize me, and I about told her to go fuck herself. Fucking mental police wanting to lock suffering people up. Fuck therapists.

It sounds like you drew the short straw in the Therapist game. Are there others?

 

[LittleJem]

[QUOTE="Gnip, post: 976347, member: 22733

Therapists are nothing more at best than paid "friends. Prostitutes are far better and much more honorable, because they actually have to do their jobs, or they won't have any work.
[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what I wrote to my recent culture (therapist) who turned out to have zero compassion and only wanted money. I said therapists are like sex workers. They only 'care' when you are paying for it. I wish I never paid him anything.

 

[Lightflicker]

Everything every
day the world shows less humanity. I'm so sorry.

 

[Jean Améry]

Everything day the world shows less humanity.

Indeed. And yet it's supposed to be a complete mystery why so many people choose to off themselves...

 

[Wayfaerer]

I really hate that phrase because it makes big assumptions as to what someone is going through. My problems are not temporary. If they were, I would not be considering suicide. How detached from reality are these people?

 

[Fragile]

They are right tho.

Suicide is a permanent solution to all my temporary problems and a way to never have to deal with any 'temporary' problem again, ever.

I keep saying this, but pro-lifers sold me on suicide. All of their arguments can be used to justify, validate and be sure about my decision.

 

[fly away]

The line "Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem " is a standard saying taught to Crisis Center/Suicide Hotline workers, to be used to help deescalate a situation involving a caller who wants to or has started to ctb.
As a former crisis counselor who has wanted to ctb for almost 50 years, I could never say that sentence. To me, it's just not true. Although there have been certain periods of my life when I was "ok", most of it has been a living hell of hospitals, therapists, more meds, ECT, Ketamine treatments, etc. etc. Anyone who has felt the horror and desperation that most of us live with on a daily basis, know that statement is meaningless and worse, extremely invalidating to hear. To me ctb takes an enormous amount of courage to complete. I'm still in the planning process, because I don't want to screw up again. But no one can tell me that 50 (out of 60) yrs of hell is temporary.

 

[Lightflicker]

Indeed. And yet it's supposed to be a complete mystery why so many people choose to off themselves...

I always thought suicide is last act of self love anyone can do. To get away from this reality of destruction. To feel no more and to not exist in this madness and the search of despair of temporary happiness.

 

[muffin222]

I hate this platitude as well. Not all problems are temporary, sadly. Some may not be permanent, but to rectify them and recover from the effects of them would so time-consuming, so tiring, and so painful that it doesn't seem worth the struggle and the effort.

 

[_Kaira_]

People who say that as a bad thing annoy me. Like yeah, life is temporary. Life is my problem. : )

 

[Hermann]

Temporary problems tend to accumulate though or become chronic. A bad childhood is temporary problem, but with lasting effects. So do health conditions.

 

[FarAcrossTheWater]

Your therapist is terrible then. All the therapists I have seen accept my inevitable wish but hope to lessen the pain rather than spew cliches. Find a better therapist.

 

[blvck]

I wish ppl wouldn't say that. its so cliche and lacks empathy or feeling.

 

[Gnip]

Let's put into perspective just what the advent of psychotherapy has actually done to the human condition:

It sounds like you drew the short straw in the Therapist game. Are there others?

In my extensive experience, there are no long straws in the therapist game...:

 

[Gromit-CTB]

Life is a permanent problem so suicide is a permanent perfect answer

 

[hoping to lose hope]

If my bike got a flat tyre which is only a temporary problem but I could fix it permanently I think I would very much like to do that.
I know this is not a actual critique on the saying but it has no merit anyway so is not worth deconstructing etc

 

[PDAnnie2610]

Fifteen years don't feel temporary. Though I've been miserable for nearly 2 decades and frankly, it's a life sentence.