Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

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My therapist told me this today. Like what do pro-lifers think? That life is permanent, that we live forever? Life is a temporary problem. I tried to tell my therapist; it didn't go well. She told me I don't want to get better. It's not that. It's just a lot of bullshit pro-lifers spit out is bull shit. Anyone above an IQ of 30 can figure that out. Anyways, she threatened to hospitalize me, and I about told her to go fuck herself. Fucking mental police wanting to lock suffering people up. Fuck therapists.

WTF what a rude ass therapist. why would you be going to therapy if you didn't want to get better?! and threatening to hospitalize you, just weird and messed up. sorry that happened to u.

 

[ADruinedmylife]

It is also not for some problems like if you have PSSD, med-induced anhedonia, or other debilitating chronic health issues

 

[CoalmineCanary]

This is a commonly used phrase.

Like:

Third time's a charm.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Out of sight, out of mind.

Here's one:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[Time to fly]

This is a commonly used phrase.

Like:

Third time's a charm.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Out of sight, out of mind.

Here's one:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

My favourite when I was on mental health watch from the nurse..."man up and pull yourself together" this was the same nurse who called the police to my house as I couldn't say what I would be doing over a weekend so I said winning the lottery...

 

[FuneralCry]

Life is the temporary problem, death is the solution.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

Life itself is temporary, and it can sometimes be a problem too. Suicide is just a fast-track ticket to permanent sleep.

 

[Gnip]

Abolishing professional counseling will be a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Therapists are nothing more at best than paid "friends. Prostitutes are far better and much more honorable, because they actually have to do their jobs, or they won't have any work.

 

[Kat!]

Oh jeez I thought this was a pro-life post
I understand people's determination towards our happiness, but it won't last forever.
Why would I want to get old and die? There's nothing fun about that, at all.

 

[SmellyRat]

Abolishing professional counseling will be a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Therapists are nothing more at best than paid "friends. Prostitutes are far better and much more honorable, because they actually have to do their jobs, or they won't have any work.

Exactly they are paid to pretend to care.
When i get asked if i want counseling my response is this

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

I heard that on a true crime podcast recently and it triggered me. Like why the fuck is this a saying? I've heard this off and on for years but this time it really got to me. People outside of our heads don't get what's going on.

 

[LesDjinns]

This is a commonly used phrase.

Like:

Third time's a charm.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Out of sight, out of mind.

Here's one:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Those actually hold water though.


Actually come to think of it, the whole suicide being a permanent solution to a temporary problem makes sense aswell. I do share OP's sentiment, it's a throw-away sentence people use when they don't know what they're talking about; but there is some sense to it. I would probably say something similar if one of my friends came to me with suicidal thoughts.

Though I would add that it's a solution nontheless. Something which a licenced psychologist should/could never admit.

 

[AintNoWayOut]

lol, i hate that phrase because its making such a bold assumption that your problems are temporary, as if permanent issues dont exist. no, my chronic pain isnt temporary. and no, i dont have a time machine so the years of life that have been stolen from me are permanent as well. all it does is make me feel worse because it reminds me that my problems arent temporary like most, like its just a middle finger to me telling me that they cant do anything to help me. fuck those people.

 

[Railiah P]

My therapist told me this today. Like what do pro-lifers think? That life is permanent, that we live forever? Life is a temporary problem. I tried to tell my therapist; it didn't go well. She told me I don't want to get better. It's not that. It's just a lot of bullshit pro-lifers spit out is bull shit. Anyone above an IQ of 30 can figure that out. Anyways, she threatened to hospitalize me, and I about told her to go fuck herself. Fucking mental police wanting to lock suffering people up. Fuck therapists.

This is exactly why I don't fuck with therapist. They are all criticism and no empathy. I don't want to hear anything from the mouth of a person who has never felt my pain.

 

[NightmareTour]

The amount of times I've been told this is just fucking ridiculous. It's just a lazy cop out to avoid actually caring about the problem, which makes it even worse that your therapist used it.

Funnily enough, severe brain damage that's slowly eroding away my memory, cognitive abilities and mobility and causes me constant pain isn't exactly temporary. Tell pro-lifers that though, and they'll just spit out some bullshit about positive thinking or something.

 

[262653]

I get the impression that at some point there was some sort of a social psychology experiment where the experimenters were trying to teach people to use this phrase whenever someone expresses the intention to suicide, or proposes suicide as a viable alternative to prolonging life. And the goal would be to see how often people are willing to parrot the phrase that doesn't even make sense as an argument against suicide.

One of the problems I have with therapy is that the clients don't exactly know if the therapist has what they want. If one hires a prostitute, it is more or less clear what each side wants and what they are willing to give in exchange. The only clear variable in therapy is what the client (C) is willing to give -- money. It's not clear if the therapist (T) has what the C wants, or if the T is willing to provide what the C wants. T is payed per session, not per successful healing or progress in whatever the C's goal is... OK, I feel like making a list.

T is payed per session, not for satisfying C's needs. ( T has a monetary interest to keep C in therapy.)
Vague variables, it's not clear what C's problem is, or what T is willing to do. (Vague terms.)
T is trained in psychology, and how to affect the minds of people. (How to manipulate people.)
C is looking for psychological help, and on this ground I'm assuming that C is psychologically vulnerable. (I'm assuming that C is vulnerable to manipulation.)

I put a few things together and see very favorable conditions for psychological abusers, sadists. Add to that the conflicts a suicidal person can have with a therapist and the fifth edition of psychiatry bible, and the parentalistic attitude of the mental health systems and some therapists, and you get something.

I would still go for therapy if I had the motivation, because I see both good and bad results as better than no results, but our payoffs may differ. Oh, and I wouldn't mention that I want to suicide or plan to suicide.

 

[BridgeJumper]

Well my temporary problems have been with me 14 years now

 

[Jean Améry]

I'd answer with "A wittty saying proves nothing" (Voltaire).

Seriously: how does she know your problem is only temporary? Don't get mad: ask her how she knows this. Keep pestering her for an answer until she admits she simply doesn't know. Then ask why her trite slogan should apply to you and who she thinks is more rational: you or her?

It also reminds me of this: "Hope is not a strategy" (origin unknown).

Don't get mad at people who have the power to lock you up. Don't give them ammunition to use against you. Keep calm, polite and rational as this will keep you safe (i.e. not incarcerated unless that's what you want) and it has the added benefit of driving them up the wall.

 

[woxihuanni]

I'd answer with "A wittty saying proves nothing" (Voltaire).

Seriously: how does she know your problem is only temporary? Don't get mad: ask her how she knows this. Keep pestering her for an answer until she admits she simply doesn't know. Then ask why her trite slogan should apply to you and who she thinks is more rational: you or her?

It also reminds me of this: "Hope is not a strategy" (origin unknown).

Don't get mad at people who have the power to lock you up. Don't give them ammunition to use against you. Keep calm, polite and rational as this will keep you safe (i.e. not incarcerated unless that's what you want) and it has the added benefit of driving them up the wall.

That's good advice but I still kinda have my heart set on the pink dildo.

 

[Jean Améry]

I put a few things together and see very favorable conditions for psychological abusers, sadists. Add to that the conflicts a suicidal person can have with a therapist and the fifth edition of psychiatry bible, and the parentalistic attitude of the mental health systems and some therapists, and you get something.

Brilliant analysis. I might even steal this, lol.

 

[Konjac]

Man. I'm sure for some people, their problems might just be temporary, and they're lucky as fuck to be able to actually move on and live a good life. But if it's gotten to the point where you're on this website, been suicidal for years and you KNOW for sure things aren't getting better anytime soon, phrases like this are irrelevant. I mean c'mon therapy, if my problems really are temporary, why don't you tell me how to fix them? Oh, that's right, you can't... gotta love pro-lifer's logic. A one-size-fits-all phrase isn't gonna change anyone's mind.

 

[AutoTap]

Will take my permanent solution any day over this poor excuse for an existence...last time I spoke to a mental health care expert I asked if temporary why has it lasted 30 years...silence...well done fella you really helped me there

This. If it's so temporary why's it still here. Like -.- what don't they get

 

[Jean Améry]

That's good advice but I still kinda have my heart set on the pink dildo.

Hey, thoughts are free. It is a funny image though.

 

[LenkaX]

Temporary problem? What a lie. In my case there are lots of very serious problems and I know deep in my heart that these problems will never vanish. And I can't do anything about it. Nothing will change.

 

[Weary Soul]

That phrase is a temporary cop out to make the person who said it feel better.

In my case? Suicide is a permanent solution to a permanent problem.

If I had help, the case may be different. But I don't, so here I am.

Peace peoples. <3

 

[Chupacabra 44]

Therapeutic cliche underscoring the skill set limitations of your therapist.

 

[Deleted member 94]

Not my therapist but a doctor who resucitated me from my attempt in UK hotel, he said I don't know what's on the other side but if he was in my shoes he would make sure to exhaust every option before suicide.

 

[MrBlue]

My problems and suffering are entwined with and as temporary as my life itself. Death isn't just a permanent solution, but the only solution regardless of when it occurs. So why should I be shamed for being proactive and solving my problems on my own terms, not waiting for a biological fault to do it for me.

 

[Bitterman1996]

honestly I get these people "meant to help"

But in the end if one in a state where they couldn't make peace with being alive, this kind of common phrase wouldn't help much imo. I don't fully hate pro lifers but I feel alot of them just want people who wanted to leave because of our function in society.

Workforce, tax payer, wage slave etc etc.

I don't know if it's just modern world problem but I don't think it's that farfetched to say this is one of many reasons suicide rate increased

 

[Viceroy]

For me its a permanent solution to a permanent problem which is this bs life i keep waking up into.

fucking poetic

 

[maybepossiblyithink]

They're supposed to say this stuff to edgy teens who want to off themselves because of relationship problems. Thats when this makes sense.
But apparently I'm not alone when I say I've been told this my entire life. Technically, yeah, I'm still a kid, but I'm not suicidal because I didn't get my way.
It makes me so irritated to hear this stuff.