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justsayin

justsayin

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Jan 30, 2021
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it should not be a problem to remove it again, if they will insert the name of the website.
Unluckily wikipedia is edited also by idiots; it is surprising that they can read.
Inserting the name of this website in an instructive encyclopedia is like inviting students to come and have a look;
or walking in a classroom and tell students about it.

Wikipedia can be edited by idiots, but is run by (political) activists.

Engaging in edit wars will result in page being locked. Then some of the higer ranking editors will come and impose the truth.

Many suicide realated things have Wikipedia page, including the ancestor of this forum alt.suicide.holiday and The Peaceful Pill Handbook. If this forum survives current media attention, getting a mention in Wikipedia should be expected.
 
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little helpers

little helpers

did I tie the tourniquet on my arm or on my neck?
Dec 14, 2021
518
so the pigs get to die a humane death but we are expected to live and suffer SMH
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it's just nuts, like, I remember so vividly seeing a documentary as a kid where they basically exit-bagged pigs for a "humane death". thing is, pigs don't go buy shit on black Friday or pay taxes. their market value is practically contained in their death, as pork. whereas for humans (in our current system) it's the opposite. I'm starting to believe anarchism will do one more good thing now lol.
 
sadeyesWA

sadeyesWA

See ya later, alligator.
Dec 15, 2021
32
I have decided to buy another supply of this in case sources start to disappear more than before. I remember how sources began to get taken down after historic news articles emerged about certain methods and this site. I can imagine suppliers being pressured to stop selling again in light of the amount of exposure SS is receiving.

The right to die is a fundamental human right, and a peaceful passing should not be a rarity offered to those who fit an extremely narrow criteria and to those who have enough money for voluntary euthanasia clinics.

I would like control over my own life and death. I would like to pass on my terms. It's my body, my life, my death. We should all be afforded respect for our autonomy as long as we are making an informed choice.
If you have a reliable source for SN can you DM me?
Shld b chngd 2 'Ext Internatnl p.p.h' bcse tht ws whre Sasu gt th infrmatn frm.
I don't think we should be exposing the real world to the PPH. I think that can only lead to trouble.
 
sadeyesWA

sadeyesWA

See ya later, alligator.
Dec 15, 2021
32
PPH Wikipedia page has been created in 2008‎.
I know, but I didn't know ABOUT it until 3 weeks ago. That's a long long time I was looking for something like it and couldn't find it. I don't think I'm alone. For example, if someone were to send it to their local congressman I bet it would do more harm than good. I'm just trying to stay safe and hope everyone else is too.
 
justsayin

justsayin

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I know, but I didn't know ABOUT it until 3 weeks ago. That's a long long time I was looking for something like it and couldn't find it. I don't think I'm alone. For example, if someone were to send it to their local congressman I bet it would do more harm than good. I'm just trying to stay safe and hope everyone else is too.

PPH and similar books are completly legal, and publishers have lawyers. Exposing more people to them will take some heat from the forum. You should send one to your local congressman. Controversy made Final Exit reach #1 on The New York Times Best Seller list in 1991.

 
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eryu

eryu

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Sep 25, 2021
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I actually didn't think of this before but they're right.
NYT wrote an entire long-ass front page article about this website which they apparently studied for months and heavily focused on the SN method...yet they do not mention PPH or Exit International once.

Wikiedit


There are sources one could add from EI's website and make a note that they advocate it as a method.
You couldn't say that this was the reason for SS finding out about it unless you found some mainstream news source that said this. But simply adding this info to the article would make it seem less like some 'death cult' thing and would maybe give a clue for other journos who might write about it in future.
Just adding statements about Exit International wouldn't require a news source if you lifted it directly from their website.

Here a couple things from their website that mention SN. The second one makes it obvious they're advocating technically illegal use
https://exitinternational.net/docs/ExitActBC.pdf
https://exitinternational.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/March-2020-eDeliverance-1.pdf

I would do it but I'm kind of anxious about formatting. If no one else tries (or suggests a good reason why it shouldn't be done) then maybe I'll try putting something in later.
 
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Dot

Info abt typng styl on prfle.
Sep 26, 2021
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PPH and similar books are completly legal, and publishers have lawyers. Exposing more people to them will take some heat from the forum. You should send one to your local congressman. Controversy made Final Exit reach #1 on The New York Times Best Seller list in 1991.

N.y.t bst-sllr...irny

Tht wld damge th intgrty of thr artcle
 
justsayin

justsayin

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Jan 30, 2021
493
I would do it but I'm kind of anxious about formatting. If no one else tries (or suggests a good reason why it shouldn't be done) then maybe I'll try putting something in later.

Think about privacy before doing anyting.

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NYT left out PPH and Exit International intentionaly. Mentioning the existance of PPH, and that Philip Nitschke came up with SN method, would make their attack on the forum less effective. That is how writing a hit piece works.
 
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eryu

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Think about privacy before doing anyting.
Is it really that risky, do you think? I guess certain people could find out information about me but I'm not sure what they'd do with it. I'm nobody important and I don't plan to use SN as a method.
I don't see there would be much to gain from doxxing me.

N.y.t bst-sllr...irny

Tht wld damge th intgrty of thr artcle
It just shows what books are best sellers. I don't think it means they endorse any of them.
 
justsayin

justsayin

Member
Jan 30, 2021
493
Is it really that risky, do you think? I guess certain people could find out information about me but I'm not sure what they'd do with it. I'm nobody important and I don't plan to use SN as a method.
I don't see there would be much to gain from doxxing me.

In their eyes you are a part of "death cult". Pitchfork mob doesn't care much about who they attack.
 
Lost Magic

Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,201
I remember when Dr Philip Nitschke did seminars about how easy it is to get sodium nitrite and how it won't likely become restricted because it is just a salt. Even then I could not get access to Sodium Nitrite in the UK. It is next to impossible to get it in some countries. And now with the inclusion of that disgusting New York Times article and Wikipedia, I fear it will be even harder to get as time goes on. I'm checking out this year. Good luck to all!
 
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i_was_here

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people really don't think before writing such articles. they think they are doing a good action - illusionary. Like those richer people pretending they are helping out poorer people in touristic places... and what, they prefer people jumping or hanging instead?
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,375
Why is 4chan never listed as a source for learning about SN as a suicide method? That's where I learned about it after some anon politely told me to kill myself for disagreeing with him about a cartoon. This was way before I even found SS.

Seriously, as I've already said before this site is garbage when it comes to needing to be encouraged to commit suicide. Reddit, 4chan, and Twitter are way better at making people want to die than some forum that makes people feel accepted.
 
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My_name_is_Luka

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Apr 28, 2020
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Wikipedia can be edited by idiots, but is run by (political) activists.

Engaging in edit wars will result in page being locked. Then some of the higer ranking editors will come and impose the truth.

Many suicide realated things have Wikipedia page, including the ancestor of this forum alt.suicide.holiday and The Peaceful Pill Handbook. If this forum survives current media attention, getting a mention in Wikipedia should be expected.
thanks, I didn't know.
Anyway, to me it seems quite retarded that they insert such information in wikipedia.
 

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