Something about the SN protocol doesn't make sense

[rekt]

Here's the thing that confuses me about the SN protocol in PPH.

The protocol recommends taking oxazepam straight after drinking the SN, in order to lessen the unpleasant symptoms of ingesting SN and shorten the time to consciousness loss.

Here's the problem. The onset of action for oxazepam is said to be 30 to 60 minutes, while the symptoms of SN poisoning begin within 5 minutes after ingestion. Death is supposed to occur after 40 minutes.

How on earth is oxazepam supposed to help you if the effects of SN have run their course and you're already unconscious or dead by the time the oxazepam starts to work? Wouldn't it make more sense to take the oxazepam 30 minutes before you drink the SN?

 

[Forveleth]

You crush the tablets, which means you drastically shorten the time it takes for the medication to do its thing. Your stomach does not have to break down the outer coating first to get to the chemicals.

We should also be taking these after fasting so your stomach will not have anything else to digest so you can get to the medication faster. Most of the time when people take their pills they have at least some food in there that slows down the process.

 

[Obliviate]

Is this from the latest ppeh 2025 one?

 

[rekt]

Is this from the latest ppeh 2025 one?

Yes.

You crush the tablets, which means you drastically shorten the time it takes for the medication to do its thing. Your stomach does not have to break down the outer coating first to get to the chemicals.

We should also be taking these after fasting so your stomach will not have anything else to digest so you can get to the medication faster. Most of the time when people take their pills they have at least some food in there that slows down the process.

I see. But wouldn't it still be better to take the oxazepam a little bit before drinking the SN so that the effects have some to kick in before you drink the SN?

 

[Obliviate]

That's a really good question. Personally 20 tablets is a lot. People usually take benzos after so they don't fall asleep before getting to the SN. However I would take a couple before and a couple after to calm my nerves working up to taking SN.

You crush the tablets, which means you drastically shorten the time it takes for the medication to do its thing. Your stomach does not have to break down the outer coating first to get to the chemicals.

We should also be taking these after fasting so your stomach will not have anything else to digest so you can get to the medication faster. Most of the time when people take their pills they have at least some food in there that slows down the process.

This is a good point. Maybe that is why. But I would still take a couple before. I would follow the 2 day regimen instead of stat

 

[quietwoods]

Yes.

I see. But wouldn't it still be better to take the oxazepam a little bit before drinking the SN so that the effects have some to kick in before you drink the SN?

You can but it's risky. The benzos will hit quickly and unexpectedly. I've seen two different failures where someone took benzos shortly before the SN and wasn't able to stay awake long enough.

1-2 minutes max before I would say.