Social media just shows how fake society truly is about suicide

[FireFox]

People complain about how social media has made society worse but I believe social media is exposing people for who they really are and the true depravity that exists in our world.

Social media shows over and over again how people like to go along with the crowd in bullying, gossiping and making fun of others. The anonymity and distance that comes with social media gives absolute people the power to type insults, cruel remarks and unlimited judgmental behaviour without seeing or experiencing real consequences.

In the non virtual world when it comes to mental health or suicide people the truth is the minute you reach out for help peoples true colours come out . Reaching out reveals what people really think about suicide this is how you know who is a good person who genuinely cares and those that are bad, arrogant and judgmental people . This attitude from the non virtual world extends to the digtal world of social media. Social media also shows how people want to be seen as a morally good person in filming or taking pictures of their acts of kindness in public or tweeting the number of the suicide hotline whenever a celebrity kills themselves or platitudes about reaching out if you feel low,

People are happy to virtual signal on social media how they care about mental health but the minute you have a different opinion or perspective that doesn't fit their world view they just turn on you this behaviour also exists within people in online mental health support spaces. During the Covid19 pandemic I got builled out of a community of depression sufferers because they didn't agree with my comment on how I wished I died from covid19

Before I became very active on Sanactioned Suicide I got builled out of a depression support online community by other depression sufferers

After I graduated university my depression was persistent and not going away so I decided to connect online with other depression sufferers to help deal with the loneliness of being a depression sufferer. This depression support community majority of its users are from the UK and some are from...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Everyone wants to be seen as a good person but nobody wants to behave like an actual good person who shows empathy and compassion for others.Parents and older boomers blame social media for everything because they are deep in denial over how self centred and cruel the world they brought their kids in and have failed to equip their kids to deal with it.

 

[Relic]

When there are two or three people in the room, there can be some competition. When there are some 30 or more, gangs start to form. This is the nature of a human animal. Online, at a first glance, it may seem that the "hate speech" laws are implemented to protect against such gangs, but in reality these only go after individuals who disagree with the government. Everyone is free to gang up and hate on the "enemies of the state," and any "consequences" are trivial and just for show. So every movement becomes corrupt and fake, because the power, however small, feels so good. In Canada, you would think that with the MAID program and everything, that they finally have understood the need to recognize and accept the individual choice. But it is nothing more than another layer in the control scheme, and misappropriating the taxpayer money. If anyone tries to go around the system, they'll find out that nothing has changed.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

When there are some 30 or more, gangs start to form. This is the nature of a human animal.

Whether it's online or irl - we form groups. Not everyone is friend with everyone else not everyone loves everyone else (different genders / real love) I don't think that we really understood how that works and how we recognize who is/can become a friend / partner. IRL definitely chemistry is responsible for that - online it's sth else but we "feel" with whom we can chat better than with others. Human social life is complex.

 

[Relic]

Whether it's online or irl - we form groups.

But those are not that kind of groups. The kind that this forum is, for example. Those are (sometimes fanatic) gangs that seek power, their communities are built on hypocrisy, and they seek to profit from whatever situation they come across. Those very public people that have lost family members and now live on twitter, this is not what grief looks like. There are fates that I don't want anyone to experience, but there is also no way to change that, for an individual. Most of the movements started by one have turned out to be corrupt in the end. Human social life is not very different from any other animal. Environments are different, but it is mostly still about self/survival, family, and power struggles. Animals generally do not protect the weak, because it is not profitable and it endangers the survival of others. But in some cases they do. Humans have systems in place to profit from the weak.
Compassion, finding and recognizing partners, and these kinds of feelings in general, are not part of the equation. Human is the only animal that hunts and kills their own for fun and profit.

 

[R_N]

Yeah. It is vile but it is also an instinct like you said. People feel and do, it is really not about reality for most.

Words are mostly used as a tool for manipulation, that is why everyone is so stubborn and herd oriented.

Each day I see people enjoying other peoples downfall especially if they were successful at something.

 

[untothedepths]

This is the truth, yeah. It's just that social media has made all of humanity's ills and depravity available for everyone to know whenever, or to even manufacture. And now with ChatGPT and other AI being just so casually let loose with no regulations or restrictions shits about to get worse, I'm sure of it. It's for profit and likely on purpose so that our privacy online erodes to nonexistence in the face of safety. Eventually though, the internet will be strangled and white washed so that people only see family friendly content and you are required to provide your state/govt. issued ID to do anything. It won't do anything to address the real problems or also provide a vast sea of spaces for individuals. Social Media has really helped speed things along to this point. One day the internet will not be a place where we can go to to find like minded people. It'll just be another shitty cesspool like life is where problems aren't solved with diligence and people keep suffering. But don't worry! You're honorary hotlines will be there and your poorly funded mental prison institutions will surely pick up the slack!

 

[deadead]

 

[Life_and_Death]

my favorite social media posts are the "reshare this! support suicide awareness! i care!" meanwhile im sitting there going "why arent you talking to me then? little hypocritical arent we? XD" (speaking specifically of "friends")

I believe social media is exposing people for who they really are

this. i am who i am, offline and irl. i dont understand people that say "theyre not really them" (or however the saying goes). theyre not really a bad person, they just do mean things online. umm...no XD

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Yeah, social media just goes to show their thoughts on the matter. They never cared about the quality of life of a suicidal person. They want suicidal people to suffer like how everybody else is. Wanting to escape life is completely rational yet society won't think that as they believe everybody should suffer

 

[hikikomorizombie]

society in general has a fixation on fake/toxic positivity & kindness. it's v nauseating & has only further cemented me in my 'negativity', & deepened my feeling of alienation.

i used to collect those We're Reaching Out To Offer Help notices on IG like medals, lol. somehow ppl didn't realize how shittier it'd make me feel to get sent typical suicide prevention resources by an app, & that maybe actually talking to me themselves would be better + feel more genuine. they didn't even need to play the role of therapist; if some1 would've just talked to me, @ any point during my last few yrs of isolation before i fully pulled myself off of social media & away from the world, that would've been somewhat helpful. @ least more than sending a programmed message of fake care ever would be. after my 2nd or 3rd We're Reaching Out To Offer Help notice, it started to feel like some1 was just mocking me

just like how if u ever express any type of desire to die (not even specifically suicide) on any social media platform, u can expect the exact same responses you've had to hear all ur life from total strangers. 'It gets better', '1 day you'll enjoy life', etc. like who do those corny, empty ass platitudes actually help?? they've only ever made me feel worse.

 

[carac]

The thing that really made me wake up to how fake and toxic social media is was the death of the UK celelbrity Caroline Flack. She killed herself in 2020 following intense media scrutiny. This death spawned the whole #bekind movement. I was just stunned how apparant it was that the same people purpoting kindness and love were the very same people engaging in mindless gossip spreading hate and rumours. It was all a facade.

 

[R_N]

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Exactly. There are no consequences for their behaviour.

 

[Slow_Farewell]

Can't say i agree.
Social media, or any media at all that requires participation without validation is at risk of being used to highlight certain things only or spread selected propaganda with a view to advance a certain philosophy.
If any, social media has blurred the lines so much so that it is difficult to ascertain what one should be doing or how one should be acting.

 

[FireFox]

The thing that really made me wake up to how fake and toxic social media is was the death of the UK celelbrity Caroline Flack. She killed herself in 2020 following intense media scrutiny. This death spawned the whole #bekind movement. I was just stunned how apparant it was that the same people purpoting kindness and love were the very same people engaging in mindless gossip spreading hate and rumours. It was all a facade.

@carac When i saw #Bekind following Caroline Flacks death I just couldn't stop laughing and I questioned how long would #BeKind last for before everyone goes back to insulting each other on social media ?

Surprise surprise didn't last that long. A lot of people were tweeting #BeKknd as a feel good gesture to show they are a good person but actually they were never serious about changing their behaviour and challenging toxicity of people's behaviour and the bystanderism.

 

[FireFox]

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@deadead When Mike Tyson becomes the voice of reason you know it is bad.

 

[FireFox]

Yeah, social media just goes to show their thoughts on the matter. They never cared about the quality of life of a suicidal person. They want suicidal people to suffer like how everybody else is. Wanting to escape life is completely rational yet society won't think that as they believe everybody should suffer

@ijustwishtodie The truth is we live in a very selfish society where people do not know want to genuinely connect and empathise with others going through difficultly. I have now noticed people on social media use suicidal and depressed people suffering and difficulties generally to make themselves feel better about their own lives. Every bullshit hashing, sharing some feel good quote it is all about people making themselves feel better while ignoring the person who is suffering.

When I have reached out for help on reddit all I have experienced is people putting me down and judging me.

The last piece of advice I asked reddit was weeks ago on how to cope with being single on Valentines day as the day makes me extremely depressed and suicidal.

Then comments were the following

● " I saw your post history, your a toxic person" all because I make threads my on my antinatalist beliefs and I make feminist threads about the harm of deepfake pornography on women and types of abuse involving technology.

Other people started joining in saying I am bad person for having these beliefs especially being antinatalist.

● others were just dismissive saying being single is fun etc

Even in support and advice spaces of reddit I have been met with judgement and no support really.

society in general has a fixation on fake/toxic positivity & kindness. it's v nauseating & has only further cemented me in my 'negativity', & deepened my feeling of alienation.

i used to collect those We're Reaching Out To Offer Help notices on IG like medals, lol. somehow ppl didn't realize how shittier it'd make me feel to get sent typical suicide prevention resources by an app, & that maybe actually talking to me themselves would be better + feel more genuine. they didn't even need to play the role of therapist; if some1 would've just talked to me, @ any point during my last few yrs of isolation before i fully pulled myself off of social media & away from the world, that would've been somewhat helpful. @ least more than sending a programmed message of fake care ever would be. after my 2nd or 3rd We're Reaching Out To Offer Help notice, it started to feel like some1 was just mocking me

just like how if u ever express any type of desire to die (not even specifically suicide) on any social media platform, u can expect the exact same responses you've had to hear all ur life from total strangers. 'It gets better', '1 day you'll enjoy life', etc. like who do those corny, empty ass platitudes actually help?? they've only ever made me feel worse.

@hikikomorizombie What irritates me is these people do not understand is that not everyone has a support system or means to improve their lives. A positive quote from Instagram is not going to help a depressed or suicidal person feel better if there life is completely terrible.

If thinking positively was easy we would all be doing it.

If I had a job, a boyfriend, friends, belonging and things going properly in my life I wouldn't want to kill myself anymore. In my life no one cares enough to listen. My mum is always busy and not great at listening same applies to grandmother, my relatives are the worst relatives in the world and I have no friends to talk too. I feel so alone in my problems sometimes I feel like the world really wants me to kill myself. I really wanted to live.

What can help a depressed or suicidal is actaul help and support for their problems. Not everyone has caring families and friends or money to help them live better. As a society we should be looking at how can we help people like this and lobby our governments local and central for change but we don't which is the problem.

 

[FireFox]

Exactly. There are no consequences for their behaviour.

@R_N Worst of all people are encouraged to do this behaviour. This year January In a small sub community I honestly shared my experiences with a largr subbreddit community I used to belong too and the moderator of the sub was stalking my thread. Other people shared their experiences too with the sub particularly the moderators and toxicity of the sub itself.

The moderator harassed me in my dms, got my thread shut down and went on massive hate campaign against me . When I reported her Reddit supported the moderator.

She is the reason why I have not posted anything on reddit since January.

She is a grown up woman in her 30s crying over someone criticising her sub reddit. It was shocking to watch. This moderator always hated me from day 1 I could never understand why,

 

[R_N]

@R_N Worst of all people are encouraged to do this behaviour. This year January In a small sub community I honestly shared my experiences with a largr subbreddit community I used to belong too and the moderator of the sub was stalking my thread. Other people shared their experiences too with the sub particularly the moderators and toxicity of the sub itself.

The moderator harassed me in my dms, got my thread shut down and went on massive hate campaign against me . When I reported her Reddit supported the moderator.

She is the reason why I have not posted anything on reddit since January.

She is a grown up woman in her 30s crying over someone criticising her sub reddit. It was shocking to watch. This moderator always hated me from day 1 I could never understand why,

Reddit moderators are something else I agree but I find reddit in general too cultish for my liking. It is just an echo chamber of certain radical views and almost all subreddits dive into politics.

There was a certain subreddit called 'watchredditddie' it opened my eyes even more how ridiculous reddit and it's moderators are. These people are just on a power trip and vile as hell. It is an echo chamber of a cult.

 

[leloyon]

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@R_N Worst of all people are encouraged to do this behaviour. This year January In a small sub community I honestly shared my experiences with a largr subbreddit community I used to belong too and the moderator of the sub was stalking my thread. Other people shared their experiences too with the sub particularly the moderators and toxicity of the sub itself.

The moderator harassed me in my dms, got my thread shut down and went on massive hate campaign against me . When I reported her Reddit supported the moderator.

She is the reason why I have not posted anything on reddit since January.

She is a grown up woman in her 30s crying over someone criticising her sub reddit. It was shocking to watch. This moderator always hated me from day 1 I could never understand why,

Reddit is utter shit. It's practically a hivemind. Go with the herd mentality or else everyone tears you apart. It's the most predictable site ever.

 

[FireFox]

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Reddit is utter shit. It's practically a hivemind. Go with the herd mentality or else everyone tears you apart. It's the most predictable site ever.

@leloyon There used to be a time where reddit used to be so good where people had real meaningful discussion on hobbies and subjects that generally interested them but now reddit has now evolved like twitter, Facebook and Instagram.

People on reddit just like Twitter, Facebook and Instagram show off how amazing their life is or post the latest selfie of themselves or virtual signal about how having a certain opinion or lifestyle makes them a better person and hounding those who do not agree.