SN workshop livestream

[throwaway777]

im sure other people already said this but i think that i could bear some minutes of pain compared to many other years of misery

 

[Psilo]

im sure other people already said this but i think that i could bear some minutes of pain compared to many other years of misery

Depends really of what you define as "pain". I could bear headache for minutes okay, but imagine your conscious an hour.... Thats not okay for me.

 

[throwaway777]

Depends really of what you define as "pain". I could bear headache for minutes okay, but imagine your conscious an hour.... Thats not okay for me.

i get what u are saying .. pain is relative but i guess im ready to fight hard to not exist anymore, at least i hope so

 

[Meretlein]

How do I see his livestream? I have access to the PPH 2019 as a subscription, does that mean I can see the livestream?

 

[a3nova]

How do I see his livestream? I have access to the PPH 2019 as a subscription, does that mean I can see the livestream?

Yes I guess, try clicking on the link at in first post of this thread

 

[couragetodie]

Did anyone watch it and learn anything?

 

[AmbleNorth]

Such an obnoxious thing to gatekeep. I understand Exit needs to make money, but not when it comes to this sort of vital information. Can't they take donations to make up for the cost of distributing this info? It could be the limiting factor information between poisoning yourself, agonizing with permanent damage or a peaceful death. Why make it so only 50+ year olds have access to it? Even more, why create a cost barrier to entry at all?


Such an obnoxious move that people have to plead for this kind of information that's readily available, but cloistered away.

 

[NextSummer]

Everytime a young person can be tracked down following his instructions and suiciding, he gets a media backlash. I think that's why he put an age barrier at an age where people have enough "life experience". Financially I think it would be better for him having no age restriction

 

[intr0naut]

How do I see his livestream? I have access to the PPH 2019 as a subscription, does that mean I can see the livestream?

No. You should have registered before the livestream and get a one-time password to watch and participate. Maybe the recording will be up on their forums...

 

[AmbleNorth]

Everytime a young person can be tracked down following his instructions and suiciding, he gets a media backlash. I think that's why he put an age barrier at an age where people have enough "life experience". Financially I think it would be better for him having no age restriction

I see. I guess that's understandable. Still, certain things about Exit resemble something of an enterprising commercial spirit than a social conscience. I guess beggars can't be choosers. There's few else whom are advocating for right-to-die, and Nitschke is a very intelligent and persuasive speaker.

 

[a3nova]

So the important point is was someone here able to view it, can transcribe it for us

 

[throwaway777]

is there anyone who can at least come in contact with someone who watched the stream ? maybe you @Meretlein ?

 

[NextSummer]

I see. I guess that's understandable. Still, certain things about Exit resemble something of an enterprising commercial spirit than a social conscience. I guess beggars can't be choosers. There's few else whom are advocating for right-to-die, and Nitschke is a very intelligent and persuasive speaker.

I agree but activism lives from support, and in his words (in an interview), most are eager to get the informations only without wanting to contribute to the social struggle. This and outward pressure like censorship leads also to gatekeeping.

 

[AmbleNorth]

I agree but activism lives from support, and in his words (in an interview), most are eager to get the informations only without wanting to contribute to the social struggle. This and outward pressure like censorship leads also to gatekeeping.

Yeah, fair points. Although, I'm a bit ambivalent about levying a burden of responsibility on suicidal people to contribute to the social struggle, I can understand an organization needs a certain amount of inputs per output. It's just a reality that things need to be paid for and Exit's channels for support are more constrained due to the controversy of it all. Anyway, I'm hoping someone can relay any important information from that stream because, while I am willing and able to contribute money to Exit, I cannot help being under 50 years old.

 

[DeepSleep]

Damn, I've missed that stream. Next time there's an upcoming event, let me know in advance (5-7 days prior).
I've got tons of fake passports of any age... )

 

[throwaway777]

if only we could get in contact with someone who watched the stream .. ):

 

[Psilo]

if only we could get in contact with someone who watched the stream .. ):

Yes, this is so frustating!!

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

@NextSummer & @AmbleNorth -- I agree with you both. Without public support, even the best ideas can die. And it can be impractical to expect the support--and the experience of so much emotionally painful public bitterness and condemnation that come with it--from people who're already so overwhelmed they're desperate to die. No wonder we're where we are. :(

 

[Walilamdzi]

There were a couple of people who were planning to watch it, hopefully they learned something.

 

[DarkStar1]

@DarkStar1 Would you mind posting the new information you glean from it?

I tried but was not able to watch it today.I was getting error messages/connection problems. Did anyone get to watch it and can they share information on it?

 

[Walilamdzi]

@DarkStar1 Ahh that's frustrating! I'm not sure,

did anyone else manage to see it?

If not then fingers crossed someone reuploads it somewhere!

 

[Psilo]

I have the feeling this is hopeless but has anybody any feedback to give?

Is there a new version of the PPH?

 

[Cookiedough8956]

Damn this reallly freaking sucks : (

 

[snowman626]

Hopefully this post stays alive long enough and somebody who saw ot will eventually chim in...

 

[Marawa]

Guys a member here sponsored my fees to become a member using my ID since they were under fee & I'm broke but we couldn't sign in at the same time but here's her synopsis of it-
There were lots of IT issues with the stream (on exits part). It kept dropping out and then it would take several attempts to get back on again. So i didn't hear every second of the stream but it was a VERY general presentation . He didn't say anything we didn't already know from either reading the handbook or watching his previous presentation on sn and sa which someone has posted on ss. The only thing new i learnt last night was that he seems to favour peru over Mexico as an easier way to get n now for those who want to travel. Everyone was complaining about the IT issues so they are going to make the video available at a later date. I did audio recording. I did it in about 5 separate recordings. i'll try and send the first one and let me know if its worth me sending the rest.-
So doesnt sound like we missed much. I haven't listened to the audio yet & not sure if it's even worth it or how I could upload here if anyone was interested in listening

 

[couragetodie]

Guys a member here sponsored my fees to become a member using my ID since they were under fee & I'm broke but we couldn't sign in at the same time but here's her synopsis of it-
There were lots of IT issues with the stream (on exits part). It kept dropping out and then it would take several attempts to get back on again. So i didn't hear every second of the stream but it was a VERY general presentation . He didn't say anything we didn't already know from either reading the handbook or watching his previous presentation on sn and sa which someone has posted on ss. The only thing new i learnt last night was that he seems to favour peru over Mexico as an easier way to get n now for those who want to travel. Everyone was complaining about the IT issues so they are going to make the video available at a later date. I did audio recording. I did it in about 5 separate recordings. i'll try and send the first one and let me know if its worth me sending the rest.-
So doesnt sound like we missed much. I haven't listened to the audio yet & not sure if it's even worth it or how I could upload here if anyone was interested in listening

Thanks. My SI is happy it didn't work — my desire to CTB is not.