SN without antiemetics and benzos.

[danielplainview]

What would be the effects of consuming SN raw i.e. without antiemetics and benzodiazepines?
Is it recommended to do so?

 

[Gomomon]

Hey sorry I dont have an answer but Im doing the same method soon just commenting to keep my eye on this thread, its definelty not recommended because you can throw it back up but you still should be able to die I believe.

 

[sadbh]

You throw up and possible don't die. Could get a brain injury.

 

[danielplainview]

You throw up and possible don't die. Could get a brain injury.

Are you sure

 

[sadbh]

Are you sure

Sounds like you need to learn more about SN

 

[purebliss]

What would be the effects of consuming SN raw i.e. without antiemetics and benzodiazepines?
Is it recommended to do so?

Do not skip on th Antiemetics

If you do not have access to benzos, fine. You can push through with will power. I am too much of a pussy for that.

But the AE should definitely be present.
Lie to your doctor about having a family history of nausea and puking. And that they take Meto for it.

You throw up and possible don't die. Could get a brain injury.

The last part is bullshit.

1. There are reported deaths with as little as 1 gram. But yes. Puking SN out might cause you to not die
2. There is not a single reported case of anyone who had lasting damage after they got rescued from a SN attempt

 

[howtounborn]

You throw up and possible don't die. Could get a brain injury.

I didn't see brain injury anywhere related to SN in PPH. How did you come to know of this?

From what I understood, antiemetics are to prevent vomiting and people here have said that even with those you could vomit. The point is that the recommended dose is very high and even if you throw up you need to have one more ready just in case. So even with vomiting you coud possibly have enough in your system to do the work.

 

[purebliss]

Hey sorry I dont have an answer but Im doing the same method soon just commenting to keep my eye on this thread, its definelty not recommended because you can throw it back up but you still should be able to die I believe.

Don't skip on the AE please.
Do yourself that favor

I didn't see brain injury anywhere related to SN in PPH. How did you come to know of this?

From what I understood, antiemetics are to prevent vomiting and people here have said that even with those you could vomit. The point is that the recommended dose is very high and even if you throw up you need to have one more ready just in case. So even with vomiting you have enough in your system to do the work.

Its bullshit. There are none.
Brain damage happens with Gas related methods or hanging.

And yep this.

 

[Gomomon]

Do not skip on th Antiemetics

If you do not have access to benzos, fine. You can push through with will power. I am too much of a pussy for that.

But the AE should definitely be present.
Lie to your doctor about having a family history of nausea and puking. And that they take Meto for it.

The last part is bullshit.

1. There are reported deaths with as little as 1 gram. But yes. Puking SN out might cause you to not die
2. There is not a single reported case of anyone who had lasting damage after they got rescued from a SN attempt

Unfortunately, I cannot get my hands on the AE's due to my situation. I had tried with my doctor before and was denied, they dont trust me to get medicine myself. I feel it's best to try the SN, fasting, and Tagamet/Advil alone so long as it has a higher expectation of killing me than not killing me. If I barf it out, I just retry later no? If I'm wrong about that feel free to inform me because I'm not the best when it comes to this stuff I'm just desperate to die and dont have the means to get the better results yk?

 

[purebliss]

Unfortunately, I cannot get my hands on the AE's due to my situation. I had tried with my doctor before and was denied, they dont trust me to get medicine myself. I feel it's best to try the SN, fasting, and Tagamet/Advil alone so long as it has a higher expectation of killing me than not killing me. If I barf it out, I just retry later no? If I'm wrong about that feel free to inform me because I'm not the best when it comes to this stuff I'm just desperate to die and dont have the means to get the better results yk?

Phew. I don't really want to provide more information because I am not well-researched enough to tell you what will happen if you do not take AE.

I have seen some very, very horrible deaths with SN. Mostly from the asian people who took it without any preparation as well.
But I have also seen peaceful ones without any distress.

I personally would probably abstain from SN then.
Maybe Helium or Nitrogen is an option?
Be very careful to get 99.99% purity tho

 

[Gomomon]

Phew. I don't really want to provide more information because I am not well-researched enough to tell you what will happen if you do not take AE.

I have seen some very, very horrible deaths with SN. Mostly from the asian people who took it without any preparation as well.
But I have also seen peaceful ones without any distress.

I personally would probably abstain from SN then.
Maybe Helium or Nitrogen is an option?
Be very careful to get 99.99% purity tho

I mean, I'm willing to die horribly as long as it's not extreeeeemely painful yk. I tried OD'ing on Wellbutrin (Before I knew that wouldn't really work, and that was excruciatingly painful and unsuccessful. I am ordering straight from the DCL so it should be high purity content. I have also tried Heluim in the past but was unsuccessful, I'm not really good at methods requiring higher cognitive thought and planning or leap taking , the tank wouldn't push out helium unless I pushed down on it, making it impossible. Why do you say the deaths from from those people were so horrible? I'm just wondering, was it the blue skin?

 

[purebliss]

I mean, I'm willing to die horribly as long as it's not extreeeeemely painful yk. I tried OD'ing on Wellbutrin (Before I knew that wouldn't really work, and that was excruciatingly painful and unsuccessful. I am ordering straight from the DCL so it should be high purity content. I have also tried Heluim in the past but was unsuccessful, I'm not really good at methods requiring higher cognitive thought and planning or leap taking , the tank wouldn't push out helium unless I pushed down on it, making it impossible. Why do you say the deaths from from those people were so horrible? I'm just wondering, was it the blue skin?

They were retching, screaming. In obvious pain and distress. Lying on the ground holding their stomach while crying. It didn't look peaceful at all.

Maybe consider a rope then? :')
If you are willing to take some pain then this method might be the best way to go

 

[sadbh]

I didn't see brain injury anywhere related to SN in PPH. How did you come to know of this?

From what I understood, antiemetics are to prevent vomiting and people here have said that even with those you could vomit. The point is that the recommended dose is very high and even if you throw up you need to have one more ready just in case. So even with vomiting you coud possibly have enough in your system to do the work.

Just seems logical that if you significantly reduce oxygen binding (hypoxia), but not to the point of death, you can injure your brain.

"Brain damage begins within four minutes of not having enough oxygen. The longer your brain lacks oxygen, the more likely you'll have brain damage."

What Is Cerebral Hypoxia?

Cerebral hypoxia is when your brain doesn’t get enough oxygen. Learn more about this medical emergency.

my.clevelandclinic.org

 

[name2come]

What would be the effects of consuming SN raw i.e. without antiemetics and benzodiazepines?
Is it recommended to do so?

I mean, SN is what kills you, not any of the supporting meds. It can absolutely kill you on its own, but it would not be recommended as a method. The risk of vomiting is considerable. Your body knows what SN is doing and wants to remove it as quickly as possible.

The protocols are designed to ease the vomiting risk (not eliminate the risk, mind you) and make it easier to lose consciousness so the SN can take its course. The SN is what's fatal, but the protocols are designed to make it both more reliable and easier on you.

 

[howtounborn]

I have seen some very, very horrible deaths with SN. Mostly from the asian people who took it without any preparation as well.
But I have also seen peaceful ones without any distress.

What do you mean by preparation? The 48-hour regime? Do you have any idea what amount they took? I have seen threads about dangers of taste testing/taking too little of SN.

 

[purebliss]

What do you mean by preparation? The 48-hour regime? Do you have any idea what amount they took? I have seen threads about dangers of taste testing/taking too little of SN.

None at all
Neither stat does nor 48 hour regimen

They just took it out of an instinct

 

[howtounborn]

None at all
Neither stat does nor 48 hour regimen

They just took it out of an instinct

That is an impulse/non-protocol issue then, no? Not an issue with the method itself?

 

[purebliss]

That is an impulse/non-protocol issue then, no? Not an issue with the method itself?

Correct. That is why I said using AE's is very important :> and also taking the correct amount of SN and not too much

 

[absolute failure]

Only SN is necessary to ctb, however, without AE you will vomit and you may survive looking like a smurf

Correct. That is why I said using AE's is very important :> and also taking the correct amount of SN and not too much

Exactly!

 

[NR12345]

Hi. I am wondering if it is strictly a no no for consuming alcohol prior to the SN protocol. I feel like I am more confident when I've had some alcohol and it would be less chance of me pulling out.

 

[eggsausagerice]

wondering this as someone that doesn't have access to antiemetics either. my suicide date would be extended if i tried to buy some online because it would need to be imported. in every thread i see about sn and in other people's firsthand experiences taking metoclopramide/a different antiemetic like zofran or olanzapine it seems like they always vomit anyways. i have otc antiemetics (emetrol and dramamine) for my method, but i doubt they'll be as effective. i just don't know what to do.

wondering if it is strictly a no no for consuming alcohol prior to the SN protocol

i'm also thinking about drinking on the day of my protocol. i figure it might mess with it though because you shouldn't drink anything 2 hours before the sn attempt.