I'm sorry but the above is wrong. Here is a thread discussing how difficult it was getting SN into the UK when MDS was operating;
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/holy-sh1t-ive-done-it-sn-to-uk.141164/page-2
Within post #49 in that thread
motherland said he had 2 welfare visits & "
Police are definitely investigating M Store / MDS." around 6 months later the BBC basically took him down, because I feel the UK police are underresourced to do it alone. Also there were other uk members like
@Old Friend monitoring how many welfare visits MDS orders were generating from UK purchasers. Presumably because he mislabel his package as a phone cover which is why customs seized them sometimes (when they spotted this).
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REALLY??? You clearly were NOT around after the KL takedown and all the welfare visits in the UK & elsewhere after that many of which (like mine) happened at 1.30am in the morning;
Just got police at my front door at 1am for a wellness check since the FBI traced my order from IC and flagged it as a suicide kit. They believed me when I said I hadn’t ordered it and that there wouldn’t be a case number made or anything, but still it was a lot to go through, one of the cops...
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Here is another thread along a similar topic;
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-the-risk-of-a-welfare-check-if-i-order-sn.141788/ & another;
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-seized-at-uk-customs.144105/#post-2267637
Perhaps you should clue yourself up before spreading false info. I say that with all the love & respect in the world. FYI I've had 4/5 welfare visits in the last 3 years. All from trying to order SN into the UK.
I'm sorry but the above is wrong. Here is a thread discussing how difficult it was getting SN into the UK when MDS was operating;
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/holy-sh1t-ive-done-it-sn-to-uk.141164/page-2
Within post #49 in that thread
motherland said he had 2 welfare visits & "
Police are definitely investigating M Store / MDS." around 6 months later the BBC basically took him down, because I feel the UK police are underresourced to do it alone. Also there were other uk members like
@Old Friend monitoring how many welfare visits MDS orders were generating from UK purchasers. Presumably because he mislabel his package as a phone cover which is why customs seized them sometimes (when they spotted this).
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REALLY??? You clearly were NOT around after the KL takedown and all the welfare visits in the UK & elsewhere after that many of which (like mine) happened at 1.30am in the morning;
Just got police at my front door at 1am for a wellness check since the FBI traced my order from IC and flagged it as a suicide kit. They believed me when I said I hadn’t ordered it and that there wouldn’t be a case number made or anything, but still it was a lot to go through, one of the cops...
sanctioned-suicide.net
Here is another thread along a similar topic;
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-the-risk-of-a-welfare-check-if-i-order-sn.141788/ & another;
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-seized-at-uk-customs.144105/#post-2267637
Perhaps you should clue yourself up before spreading false info. I say that with all the love & respect in the world. FYI I've had 4/5 welfare visits in the last 3 years. All from trying to order SN into the UK.
My friend, I have nothing against you and i hope the feeling is mutual however your statements and references are not backable.
This motherland fellow who had admitted to have been highly into illicit materials etc online had a welfare check from the police in the UK a somewhat fair time after the ordering. He claimed they had more information on him of which wasn't even used in the order he placed and even access to paypal. There was no reference to it even relating to SN. Motherland also notably states that he was looking for testing in someone else's order. This although not binding shows that he may not have even had SN in the first place and was looking for more information. In this world you see a lot of that. He shown no direct reference to MDS despite stating there was a seller based in ukraine which is and has been notable before the BBC tracked him down. No details of such SN ordered are ever shown and the police took the SN?? There is too many missed details and it doesn't seem of that a reliable source for a large point. He although mentions that they (the police assuming) have been looking into MDS for a while. There is no reason for him to know this is true, Sure they would be aware of the presence of a man with great indirect assistance but to such an investigation they would see orders, i don't think so, if it had happened to this singular man who i must say has little creditability on here, why hasn't it happened to anyone else, Hundreds of orders were placed into the Uk! again more points not adding up. You go onto mention that the BBC took him down. There was no such takedown it was a minor incident in business which was soon followed by a change in website with more cover and contract and terms as such to purchases. If you ordered from him you would know exactly how they took him down: It wasn't exactly hidden. it was his full legal name and the tracking information literally shows the shop number of the post office he shipped at, Why else would they have waited. The BBC do anything for content, The police carried out a welfare check at david's home? why? customs or anything never even opened the package. It's completely false and a method to deter people from buying almost like a scare tactic. Old friend may measure such visits of welfare in the uk following SN but after much searching, what i had to do before ordering due to living in a shared housing commune all came back either to be as a result of telling one or being not backed up to be in the Uk or legitimate at all.
inspection and seizure is definitely possible as it is wrongful to have gone through customs without the correct documentation however the nature of the item SN hasn't been the cause of seizure. As a whole that forum does not at all show difficulty hardly to issues getting into the UK.There is always a risk of seizure however it is not such of a crackdown on SN it is more luck of the draw due to wrongful documentation or similar.
You also quoted my message regarding a large amount of this community questioning and talking about the risk of seizure due to fear and it not being based off actual statistics. In this quote you unnecessarily talk about the KL takedown to which of course there were order history of his site revealed to the authorities and of course a welfare check had to be made. It is almost protocol thing to do after such an event of clear assisted suicide and links of the substance sent in to many ctb cases. I was around as such during this time, My account was only created to message someone. Private viewing was enough until now. There was no reason for me to contribute to threads-in this case
Moving on your threads following the similar topic are welfare checks from IC. This is not the relation to my posts. IC was full on taken down; not any bbc exposure. He was arrested, all of his operation was taken by authorities. These welfare checks are of course going to happen. This shows no relation to DMC in his case due to his sheer precautions and it not being a case of assisted suicide. Have you ever taken to mr Z, He messages as if he is unaware of any cause: IC was not of that in any way.
By this point i just felt you had it in for me; there was no necessary need for you to go to those measures to gain nothing. all my points are valid and still stand: with one reference to try prove otherwise of these claims in the hundreds of orders published on here does not hold up. I am very clued up and go to extensive measures before ordering and when i have in my possession: it is a topic like many on here interests me and i attempt to hide such within me from others,
I fully consider your point of having your welfare checks due to the ordering of SN. It must be noted however that an order from IC would have been present before any MDS or alternative source. Your name etc would have flagged and a welfare check initiated. Even after a suspicion free check your name does not get cleared and disappear off of any radar. This radar is electronic and names are visable in electronic system upon scans, in the UK at least public safety and prevention of CTB is rather large whether it be a peaceful method or not. I looked at the posts of yours and it is clear you have got up to other illegal activities which could make your name be flagged in the first place.
i do not appreciate the aggression in your text as well as claims of me to be not clued up on this front and i hope to be on good terms. Wishing the very best of days
