SN exposure to air

[Oblivion]

I read that SN's exposure to air makes it ineffective, does this mean continuous exposure or just a one time exposure last year (after i opened the bottle) is enough to make it worthless?

 

[lonleycrowdedwest]

I have a similar question. From what I understand oxidation takes a while with limited oxygen, but a chemist would know better then I

 

[Oblivion]

UP

 

[Oblivion]

Nothing? :(

 

[lonleycrowdedwest]

an easy way to test is a blood test. If you prick your finger or cut yourself you can mix the blood with a small amount of the SN. If it very quickly turns brownish and you see clear fast color change it should still be fairly potent.

 

[Oblivion]

an easy way to test is a blood test. If you prick your finger or cut yourself you can mix the blood with a small amount of the SN. If it very quickly turns brownish and you see clear fast color change it should still be fairly potent.

Thank youuu

 

[lonleycrowdedwest]

Thank youuu

be careful! It may not work 100% of the time. Take some time to consider your actions and dont do anything rash.

 

[yellowjasmine88]

Bump

 

[Oblivion]

be careful! It may not work 100% of the time. Take some time to consider your actions and dont do anything rash.

So the blood might turn brownish and the SN might be bad?

 

[gr1lledcheese]

I haven't opened my container of SN yet. Waiting until I use it.

 

[Charcoal Feathers]

The Sodium Nitrite does gradually oxidize and turn into Sodium Nitrate when exposed to air. The PPH says there's no way to reliably tell whether this has occurred through visual inspection alone. In addition, the blood or aquarium test is only meant to test the purity of sodium nitrite. Whether those methods can be used to determine the oxidation/degradation of nitrite into nitrate is not mentioned in the PPH.

Either obtain a new batch of sodium nitrite or get the one you already have tested through a lab. If neither is possible for you, pick a different method. I've personally witnessed a failed attempt due to degraded nitrite. Do not risk it under any circumstances.

 

[YMN]

Sooo like. Say I open my SN to do a blood test on it. What's the timeframe I have before it turns into nitrate? Like how much time do I have after it gets exposed to air before it's rendered ineffective?

 

[Oblivion]

The Sodium Nitrite does gradually oxidize and turn into Sodium Nitrate when exposed to air. The PPH says there's no way to reliably tell whether this has occurred through visual inspection alone. In addition, the blood or aquarium test is only meant to test the purity of sodium nitrite. Whether those methods can be used to determine the oxidation/degradation of nitrite into nitrate is not mentioned in the PPH.

Either obtain a new batch of sodium nitrite or get the one you already have tested through a lab. If neither is possible for you, pick a different method. I've personally witnessed a failed attempt due to degraded nitrite. Do not risk it under any circumstances.

What happened?

 

[lonleycrowdedwest]

So the blood might turn brownish and the SN might be bad?

No if it turns brown the blood is oxidizing, meaning it's working. This doesn't mean it's as potent as it was when you bought it.

Sooo like. Say I open my SN to do a blood test on it. What's the timeframe I have before it turns into nitrate? Like how much time do I have after it gets exposed to air before it's rendered ineffective?

3 months to a year or so depending on a lot of circumstances. Please please do not use this information to make any rash decisions, you can always buy it again.

 

[lonleycrowdedwest]

What happened?

A less lethal overdose. It's just like taking less of the same chemical pretty much, you'll pass out slower and may not die.

 

[DeadMemes]

The Sodium Nitrite does gradually oxidize and turn into Sodium Nitrate when exposed to air. The PPH says there's no way to reliably tell whether this has occurred through visual inspection alone. In addition, the blood or aquarium test is only meant to test the purity of sodium nitrite. Whether those methods can be used to determine the oxidation/degradation of nitrite into nitrate is not mentioned in the PPH.

Either obtain a new batch of sodium nitrite or get the one you already have tested through a lab. If neither is possible for you, pick a different method. I've personally witnessed a failed attempt due to degraded nitrite. Do not risk it under any circumstances.

A good quality aquarium test should differentiate between nitrate and nitrite, even if not you can buy professional lab reagent tests for nitrites, though with more hassle and cost

 

[Ethereal Knight]

(...) you can always buy it again.

after news about SN and SaSu appeared on famous newspapers (NYT etc), and not much financial interest behind keeping SN available (it's cheap and there are only a small group of people curating meat at home), I guess it's only a matter of time until it gets banned or severely restricted, unfortunately.

A less lethal overdose. It's just like taking less of the same chemical pretty much, you'll pass out slower and may not die.

this makes me think about using a larger dose when my time to CTB finally comes. besides doing the blood test. I hope I don't puke it, but I'll have the backup glasses close to me just in case.