Should I wait for benzos?

[Hope:-)]

I couldn't get any benzos from the doctor. I'm terrified that without them SI will mean I'll seek help. I particularly anticipate this when I can't breathe. I've never attempted before so I have no reference point but I fully expect this to be the worst pain of my life. I'm wondering whether I should first try and score some benzos from dealers.... basically wait around in town until I see someone who looks the part. I'd rather not though. I'd rather just get it over with. Do benzos just make it more likely you'll drink the drink or do they help during the process as well? I think I can make myself at least drink the drink without them...

 

[rationaltake]

If you're hesitating take your time. It's understandable. If you feel benzos will help there might be an online pharmacy that will sell them to you. I can't help thinking it would be dangerous to try and score from unknown people who might be dealers. I do so understand your desperation. Apologies if my comments aren't welcome.

 

[Nirrend]

Hello @Hope:-) ! I'm not going to do SN so I can't give you any advices, however, If you want benzo, I'm pretty sure that darknet could be an easy way to get them !

You can read the DNM Bible buyer if you want, or ask question if you feel lost !

In any cases, sending you love <3

 

[Smart No More]

It's not a good idea to look for benzos from town folk or street dealers. You'll have to be very lucky to get anything legitimate. It would most likely be pressed pills made up of research chemicals. You could get those online for yourself. Body building sites that sell steroids and supplements often sell diazepam too.

You can get benzos easily on dark net markets too if it's something you feel comfortable navigating but I guess you would already have done so if that was the case.

The point of using benzos with SN, as I understand it, is to make you fall asleep and be out of it before the uncomfortable stuff happens. Whether it works I wouldn't know but I can see the logic. It would require the right timing though and to that end I'd try a small to moderate dose of benzos before making an attempt so I kbow how quickly it takes effect and have an idea of what to expect.

Am I right in thinking you're in a hostel situation? If so I guess that makes mail problematic. Generally speaking the benzos come in strips with no box so aren't that easy to identify in the envelope. Some send them in bubble wrap lined envelopes which really make it hard to tell. Hard to know what to expect for certain though.

As @rationaltake suggested, an online pharmacy might be an option. You can request they don't speak with your doctor by checking a box. They would probably give you a prescription for some but not many. Maybe not enough, I'm not sure.

 

[Hope:-)]

I think you can only really get them on the darkweb which I don't know how to navigate...can't find them from an online pharmacy. Someone here provided me a link to research benzodiazapines which I will find in a moment and link here. Might just try it without. I can tell how desperate I am and that generally means things might go a bit wrong. Kinds feel like crying tbh.

 

[Smart No More]

Don't attempt in the moment like that. It's not a good idea. No fasting period for one thing.


You can get them (benzos) on clearnet. Bodybuilding supplements sites. They sell diazepam. It's not legal but neither are the steroids. Bensedin galenika are usually a reliable brand but there are fakes. Sometimes even the fakes are what they say they are though lol. Crazy.

 

[hush hush]

I couldn't get any benzos from the doctor. I'm terrified that without them SI will mean I'll seek help. I particularly anticipate this when I can't breathe. I've never attempted before so I have no reference point but I fully expect this to be the worst pain of my life. I'm wondering whether I should first try and score some benzos from dealers.... basically wait around in town until I see someone who looks the part. I'd rather not though. I'd rather just get it over with. Do benzos just make it more likely you'll drink the drink or do they help during the process as well? I think I can make myself at least drink the drink without them...

Benzos also function as anti-convulsants, but there are other anticonvulsants too that are not narcotics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticonvulsant
For anxiety, propanolol reduces anxiety. Benzos do not cause impulsivity, but make you feel the anxiety less. Propanolol will need an anti-convulsant supplement. SN does not cause suffocation, it is more like fainting from low blood pressure (feeling dizzy or everything going dark), especially if propanolol is used. Painkillers help. I wish I could get N personally, but will settle for SN.
I do not encourage suicide, but it is the right of the individual to decide.

 

[Hope:-)]

Benzos also function as anti-convulsants, but there are other anticonvulsants too that are not narcotics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticonvulsant
For anxiety, propanolol reduces anxiety. Benzos do not cause impulsivity, but make you feel the anxiety less. Propanolol will need an anti-convulsant supplement. SN does not cause suffocation, it is more like fainting from low blood pressure (feeling dizzy or everything going dark), especially if propanolol is used. Painkillers help. I wish I could get N personally, but will settle for SN.
I do not encourage suicide, but it is the right of the individual to decide.

Propranalol needs an anticonvulsant supplement|? Why?

 

[hush hush]

Propranalol needs an anticonvulsant supplement|? Why?

If there are no benzos, SN users may experience seizures while unconscious. That's why an alternative is needed. Benzos reduce anxiety and prevent convulsions, without them an alternative is needed at least to reduce convulsions. Propanolol reduces anxiety as well, but not convulsions.

 

[jodes2]

If there are no benzos, SN users may experience seizures while unconscious. That's why an alternative is needed. Benzos reduce anxiety and prevent convulsions, without them an alternative is needed at least to reduce convulsions. Propanolol reduces anxiety as well, but not convulsions.

I thought convulsions only happen once unconscious? Even then, I didn't see reports of convulsions in the writeups of people taking SN here

 

[hush hush]

I thought convulsions only happen once unconscious? Even then, I didn't see reports of convulsions in the writeups of people taking SN here

Yes, but anti-convulsants are neuroprotective in case you are found, plus reduce the possibility of making noise and being found.

 

[hamvil]

I couldn't get any benzos from the doctor. I'm terrified that without them SI will mean I'll seek help. I particularly anticipate this when I can't breathe. I've never attempted before so I have no reference point but I fully expect this to be the worst pain of my life. I'm wondering whether I should first try and score some benzos from dealers.... basically wait around in town until I see someone who looks the part. I'd rather not though. I'd rather just get it over with. Do benzos just make it more likely you'll drink the drink or do they help during the process as well? I think I can make myself at least drink the drink without them...

That is curious, my generic doctor did prescribe me lorazepam several times without problem (it is benzo right?). He made it sound like it is a mild med.

 

[jodes2]

That is curious, my generic doctor did prescribe me lorazepam several times without problem (it is benzo right?). He made it sound like it is a mild med.

Yes it's a benzodiazepine

 

[Hope:-)]

I'm going to wait until I can get my hands on some benzos.

 

[Hope:-)]

I was meant to be ctb via sn today, but I decided to wait for benzos. Honestly without benzos you have to have nerves of steel, and what I realised yesterday was that I just didn't. As the time loomed I became more and more scared. I am always impressed by how few people are scared of any possible pain. That is all I'm scared about and the fear is pretty huge. Ended up calling my sister...didn't mention the ctb, but anyway we had a huge argument so that was a shame. I'm hoping benzos will help over ride the fear of pain. I probably will just try to get some from a dealer. Where I'm from they're pretty easy to get. That, and I'll probably just do the stat dose when I have my own flat so no waiting for a date that's looming over my head. I guess these things just need refining.

 

[ojinzo]

I was meant to be ctb via sn today, but I decided to wait for benzos. Honestly without benzos you have to have nerves of steel, and what I realised yesterday was that I just didn't. As the time loomed I became more and more scared. I am always impressed by how few people are scared of any possible pain. That is all I'm scared about and the fear is pretty huge. Ended up calling my sister...didn't mention the ctb, but anyway we had a huge argument so that was a shame. I'm hoping benzos will help over ride the fear of pain. I probably will just try to get some from a dealer. Where I'm from they're pretty easy to get. That, and I'll probably just do the stat dose when I have my own flat so no waiting for a date that's looming over my head. I guess these things just need refining.

Wishing you the best. I'm going to do sn without the benzo. It's just another hard to get ingredient that will prolong my suffering. I must admit, I'm very scared but I think this will be better than suffocating myself with a plastic bag. I can get the meto, propanol, ibuprofen and sn. I'm scared. However, it has to work. I have very realistic dreams. I fear one I go unconscious I will dream something horrible. Oh well.

 

[Hope:-)]

If you're doing SN would you attempt without benzos? I have the perfect opportunity coming up but have no benzodiazepines.

 

[emgrl]

Wishing you the best. I'm going to do sn without the benzo. It's just another hard to get ingredient that will prolong my suffering. I must admit, I'm very scared but I think this will be better than suffocating myself with a plastic bag. I can get the meto, propanol, ibuprofen and sn. I'm scared. However, it has to work. I have very realistic dreams. I fear one I go unconscious I will dream something horrible. Oh well.

As long as there is meto (or some equivalent AE), the rest don't really matter. Of course, since we've all read how they complete the method in a more peaceful way, everyone wants them all. It's only human nature to want to make things as comfortable as possible, even CTB. Fortunately, nothing else is really needed, except a lethal dose of SN.

 

[Hope:-)]

As long as there is meto (or some equivalent AE), the rest don't really matter. Of course, since we've all read how they complete the method in a more peaceful way, everyone wants them all. It's only human nature to want to make things as comfortable as possible, even CTB. Fortunately, nothing else is really needed, except a lethal dose of SN.

Yes, all I need is 20mg in 2 cups to guarantee death right? (I am a regular sized woman.) If someone takes that much they definitely die yes? I am afraid of failure. I have everything but the benzodiazepines which I am working on getting for comfort. I have a good opportunity coming up to do it but it would mean doing it without benzodiazepines. The thing I like about using benzodiaepines also is apparently it leads to faster unconsciousness.

 

[emgrl]

Yes, all I need is 20mg in 2 cups to guarantee death right? (I am a regular sized woman.) If someone takes that much they definitely die yes? I am afraid of failure. I have everything but the benzodiazepines which I am working on getting for comfort. I have a good opportunity coming up to do it but it would mean doing it without benzodiazepines. The thing I like about using benzodiaepines also is apparently it leads to faster unconsciousness.

Yes, I believe that to be true. Obviously I can't say for sure, but with two glasses of 20-25g of SN… even if vomiting occurs, I still think it would be fatal.
I think you'll pass out pretty quickly from the propranolol and the SN itself. Yes the benzos would probably help you pass out quicker, but the propranolol helps keep the feeling of your heart beating out of your chest, as well as knocks you out… definitely better to have those I think. Maybe a little Benadryl can help to calm you and knock you out? It's crazy how everything is so involved!

 

[literallydonee]

I couldn't get any benzos from the doctor. I'm terrified that without them SI will mean I'll seek help. I particularly anticipate this when I can't breathe. I've never attempted before so I have no reference point but I fully expect this to be the worst pain of my life. I'm wondering whether I should first try and score some benzos from dealers.... basically wait around in town until I see someone who looks the part. I'd rather not though. I'd rather just get it over with. Do benzos just make it more likely you'll drink the drink or do they help during the process as well? I think I can make myself at least drink the drink without them...

I would wait. Benzo's are a godsend for anxiety. Like another user mentioned, they also prevent seizures etc, they will also put you to sleep faster. They have tons of benefits for this type of situation.

Yes, I believe that to be true. Obviously I can't say for sure, but with two glasses of 20-25g of SN… even if vomiting occurs, I still think it would be fatal.
I think you'll pass out pretty quickly from the propranolol and the SN itself. Yes the benzos would probably help you pass out quicker, but the propranolol helps keep the feeling of your heart beating out of your chest, as well as knocks you out… definitely better to have those I think. Maybe a little Benadryl can help to calm you and knock you out? It's crazy how everything is so involved!

PPH no l longer recommends prop though..

 

[Smart No More]

Another option too would be Z drugs. They're kind of whay benzos were/are to barbiturates. Zolpidem is really fast acting compated to benzos (which aren't especially slow) and the hypnotic effects can have you out in very little time. They were touted as less addictive and safer than benzos by pharma and the medical community but its not true at all. However they can be a lot easier to get. I know you tried your doctor and got turned down for benzos but if you say you're having really bad insomnia and ask them to give you a couple of weeks worth of either zolpidem or zopiclone they may well do it because they're still somewhat living under their delusions depending on where you are in the world. Zopiclone and zolpidem are also probably easier to get on the black market too. Though I'd keep that activity online. Please don't go asking around the town. People aren't good and if it's addicts you approach you will either lose your money or be expected to pay through the nose for the favour and may end up following them around while they see to their needs first. With your money.,

I know for certain there are body building sites that sell benzos (usually diazepam) in the UK but I'm afraid I no longer have the links to shate as they weren't relevant to myself so I didn't save them. Not very helpful to you, I know. I'm just saying they're out there.

 

[hellispink]

This is my exact problem. I have everything except the benzos. I am not scared of death. However, the body is made biologically to respond for survival. There is where my doubts lie at. After I drink I am scared I will seek for help or something of that kind. I don't see myself waiting any longer. I doubt any psyquiatrist would give me any benzos, I tried hard. As for dealers, I don't know any and they only sell to known faces or through contacts (Keep that in mind).

 

[Hope:-)]

This is my exact problem. I have everything except the benzos. I am not scared of death. However, the body is made biologically to respond for survival. There is where my doubts lie at. After I drink I am scared I will seek for help or something of that kind. I don't see myself waiting any longer. I doubt any psyquiatrist would give me any benzos, I tried hard. As for dealers, I don't know any and they only sell to known faces or through contacts (Keep that in mind).

This is my precise predicament and my cognitive issues make the darkweb very hard to navigate but I will keep trying.
Also, what about research benzos?

 

[ojinzo]

Yes, I believe that to be true. Obviously I can't say for sure, but with two glasses of 20-25g of SN… even if vomiting occurs, I still think it would be fatal.
I think you'll pass out pretty quickly from the propranolol and the SN itself. Yes the benzos would probably help you pass out quicker, but the propranolol helps keep the feeling of your heart beating out of your chest, as well as knocks you out… definitely better to have those I think. Maybe a little Benadryl can help to calm you and knock you out? It's crazy how everything is so involved!

I'm so glad to hear this. All I will have ( hopefully), is meto, propa, and sn... I hope the propa helps speed the unconsciousness.

This is my exact problem. I have everything except the benzos. I am not scared of death. However, the body is made biologically to respond for survival. There is where my doubts lie at. After I drink I am scared I will seek for help or something of that kind. I don't see myself waiting any longer. I doubt any psyquiatrist would give me any benzos, I tried hard. As for dealers, I don't know any and they only sell to known faces or through contacts (Keep that in mind).

I'm scared too. So scared... As the date approaches I keep thinking what will happen. Will I puke out all up. Will I get super dizzy... If I do go unconscious, what will my dream be like. I'm terrified

 

[notlongnow]

How come benzo's are often available on bodybuilding sites? Odd platform.

 

[Hope:-)]

How come benzo's are often available on bodybuilding sites? Odd platform.

I'm not sure but I think they may help people push through the pain of intense exercise.

 

[notlongnow]

I'm not sure but I think they may help people push through the pain of intense exercise.

Interesting. I thought it was to knock them out and aid recovery

 

[Smart No More]

How come benzo's are often available on bodybuilding sites? Odd platform.

It counters the side effects of steroids. Not sleeping for example. I guess there's the muscle relaxation too. The type of body building sites selling them are the ones that also sell steroids.

 

[notlongnow]

It counters the side effects of steroids. Not sleeping for example. I guess there's the muscle relaxation too. The type of body building sites selling them are the ones that also sell steroids.

Thats quite interesting tbh. Thanks for the insight