Should I tell people about the fact that I am planning to ctb?
you think that would be likely to happen? I don't really know what would have to happen in order for involuntary hospitalization
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Linda
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- Jul 30, 2020
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Depends on your circumstances, but for most people I think the best answer is "No". The reason is simply that they may try to stop you. You may even finish up as an involuntary patient in a mental hospital. If you are certain that you want to ctb, you don't need that sort of hassle.
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It's a tough one. I feel certain of it, but at the same time it makes me sad to think about how sad a few other people in my life would be. I hope it won't affect them too much, i mean
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Glandular
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- Mar 23, 2023
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It depends on the person you want to tell it is the right answer. You need to be aware of the consequences - not only for you but for them. If they don't act they may feel guilty for not stopping you or they could get in legal trouble.
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FuneralCry
Just wanting some peace
- Sep 24, 2020
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No, I think that doing that would be a terrible idea, do you really want other people to interfere with your plans, doing such a thing would just make existing much worse. Sadly we exist in this society where so many people refuse to accept suicide as being a logical option, people should be able to discuss this subject openly without the risk of other people interfering, but sadly it's not the reality.
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No. Definitely no. And in this forum, stay strictly anonymous.
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If they're in the medical or health care profession I think they're obligated to take action to prevent it. If they aren't, then depending on the jurisdiction they may still run the risk of being liable in a tort lawsuit. It's not without risk for them.
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unnormal9
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- Apr 12, 2023
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Bullshit. I've had therapist not care about me killing myself after speaking of it. My last one even suggested I go to Oregon for euthanasia.
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Little_Suzy
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- May 1, 2023
- 941
Today, I told my husband, who warned me not to ctb when he was at home. I told him that if I did it at home, I would wear a diving weight belt, take tranquilizers, and drown in our pool. My husband repeated that if he becomes ill, he would ctb. My husband isn't the "planning" SaSu type, therefore I expect him to use his firearm. He also instructed me on his funeral arrangements. He'd never gone so in-depth before. The location he chose to scatter his ashes made me laugh. He's Type A. We're like Dharma & Greg.
Telling Someone Tips:
If you're sick, I recommend making an effort to talk to someone about it.
Explain your illness and see if they're sympathetic.
Explain that it gets worse, not better.
Ask how they would cope with advanced age (30+), ill health, and/or disability.
"Suicide," "kill," "die," "KMS," "suffering," and negative attitude is too triggering. I chose the term "euthanasia" and say "voluntary euthanasia" when describing the act in more vivid terms.
Being older and childless makes me more acceptable. People usually agree that aging with depression is obscene.
Since I can only speak for myself, tailor this conversation to your age and challenges.
My attitude is upbeat, and my reasoning is logical rather than emotional. With all of the meticulous planning, this conversation has the vibe of a party, not a ctb.
Telling Someone Tips:
If you're sick, I recommend making an effort to talk to someone about it.
Explain your illness and see if they're sympathetic.
Explain that it gets worse, not better.
Ask how they would cope with advanced age (30+), ill health, and/or disability.
"Suicide," "kill," "die," "KMS," "suffering," and negative attitude is too triggering. I chose the term "euthanasia" and say "voluntary euthanasia" when describing the act in more vivid terms.
Being older and childless makes me more acceptable. People usually agree that aging with depression is obscene.
Since I can only speak for myself, tailor this conversation to your age and challenges.
My attitude is upbeat, and my reasoning is logical rather than emotional. With all of the meticulous planning, this conversation has the vibe of a party, not a ctb.
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scamper
Nice to meet you
- Mar 31, 2023
- 66
Absolutely not. Most people haven't dedicated as much time as people like us have to understand why it's a valid option. This doesn't mean that your friends, family, or anyone else you plan to tell you want to ctb are bad people, they just don't get it, and we shouldn't hold it against them. Some people will go to great lengths to "save" your life, thinking they're being supportive, when they are really prolonging your suffering.
Not everyone will handle the situation poorly, but it's near impossible to tell how someone would react. After all, they have been conditioned by society to think that suicide is a terrible way to go and that death is the worst thing that can happen to a person. I highly recommend keeping it a secret until either your very last moments, or forever.
Not everyone will handle the situation poorly, but it's near impossible to tell how someone would react. After all, they have been conditioned by society to think that suicide is a terrible way to go and that death is the worst thing that can happen to a person. I highly recommend keeping it a secret until either your very last moments, or forever.
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Little_Suzy
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- May 1, 2023
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This is not an exhaustive list.
Don't discuss when or where.
Discuss several methods, so they don't know your exact plans.
Don't discuss resources or merchants . At this stage, "reporting to LE gets muddled."
If you include someone in your ctb plan or attempt, it implies they know enough to report you. This moral responsibility may contravene local legislation. Since most individuals aren't attorneys, it's best not to know. It's not a defense to not know the law.
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I've never heard of anything like this happening, where someone gets in legal trouble for not doing enough to stop someone?
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Little_Suzy
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- May 1, 2023
- 941
I've never heard a pink flamingo fart, but I'm sure it's happened!
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WorthlessTrash
Worthless
- Apr 19, 2022
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If you want to be saved and this is a cry for help, go for it. If you are deadset on CTBing, no. Your suicide will be stopped. If you think that telling them will lighten the pain from the loss, it won't. Nothing is going to make it better for them, no matter how much better you feel it is for you in the long run.
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Well, why would you want to tell them? Will they not be concerned about this? Is this something that you really want to do? I'm not downplaying your feelings, but I'm not sure what telling them about being suicidal will accomplish. Is there a person, in particular, that you want to tell? What reaction are you expecting when you do tell them? I am just trying to understand what would be the point of telling them, other than just wanting someone to talk to about your feelings. In which case, it'd probably be wiser to narrow it down to maybe one or two people who you know you can trust not to try to put you on some kind of suicide watch. Sometimes, in telling someone who genuinely loves you, you can get clarity on both what you really want to do and how it will make those who truly care feel.
I wish you good luck in your situation, whatever you decide to do.
I wish you good luck in your situation, whatever you decide to do.
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TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
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It would be one of the worst ideas ever simply because of the risk of intervention and interference. Like most people said, if you want to be able to CTB without interference or being stopped, then letting anyone know is only increasing the likelihood of being stopped, intervened, and then the consequences of failing/intervened upon (the psych ward, people no longer trusting you, being monitored very closely, and essentially being infantilized, treated like a child, etc.). I know that if/when I do CTB, I am certainly not telling anyone, especially when we still live in a prohibitionist, anti-choice, anti-CTB world.
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Body bobi
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- May 9, 2023
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And what are they gonna do if u tell them? Tell u *it's fine* *don't be sad* * ur imagining things* *stop faking it* bro is not worth it...
And what are they gonna do if u tell them? Tell u *it's fine* *don't be sad* * ur imagining things* *stop faking it* bro is not worth it to tell a soul...
And what are they gonna do if u tell them? Tell u *it's fine* *don't be sad* * ur imagining things* *stop faking it* bro is not worth it to tell a soul...
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Depends really. Do you want to tell them because you want their support in trying to recover? That's the only reason I would tell someone. If there was a real chance and intention for me to recover and that they could help me.
If you're doing it to try and prepare them- so it doesn't come as such a shock- I guess it depends on the person. Are they pro-choice? Will they be able to step back from the emotional side of things and respect your decision?
I think for me- I've always thought it was a bad idea. I think people in my life may feel obliged to try and 'help' me and ultmately- try and stop me. It also puts people on tenterhooks I imagine- waiting and worrying for the day when they can't get ahold of you. For me- I wouldn't want people to start treating me differently. I wouldn't want them to feel the responsibility that they need to try and 'save' me. I wouldn't want them to feel guilt either. If I do CTB and they knew in advance- I imagine they would think- we didn't do enough to help. When- in reality- they likely can't help. That's just me though- and me predicting how people in my life may react. People in your life may be different.
If you're doing it to try and prepare them- so it doesn't come as such a shock- I guess it depends on the person. Are they pro-choice? Will they be able to step back from the emotional side of things and respect your decision?
I think for me- I've always thought it was a bad idea. I think people in my life may feel obliged to try and 'help' me and ultmately- try and stop me. It also puts people on tenterhooks I imagine- waiting and worrying for the day when they can't get ahold of you. For me- I wouldn't want people to start treating me differently. I wouldn't want them to feel the responsibility that they need to try and 'save' me. I wouldn't want them to feel guilt either. If I do CTB and they knew in advance- I imagine they would think- we didn't do enough to help. When- in reality- they likely can't help. That's just me though- and me predicting how people in my life may react. People in your life may be different.
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