Method Second thread : About caffeine powder/pills

[Tsunami]

I have read all the forum threads about this as well as spent hours reading medical reports. What I learned was that above 50g of caffeine, or around 4 to 5 times the lethal dose, there were only 2 survivors and these people called for help very quickly after ingestion. I have the impression that this method has a high success rate if emergency services are not contacted. I have read that several pharmacy or medical students have used this method, I suppose they did it the right way and that there are good reasons for choosing it. I'm wondering how to make this method as feasible as possible.

- Ingest everything at once as quickly as possible or ingest for example 10g by 10g every 5mins?
- Mix with water, use fruit juice or with redbull/coke?
- What position once the cocktail has been ingested to delay reflux as much as possible?

There are really many reported cases (some accidental but which seem unlikely to be an accident. Who ingests 50g or 250 pills unintentionally? many cases classified as undetermined but which seem just as voluntary). I am convinced that this method has potential and that many cases have never been reported.

Questions ? Suggestions ? It would be a pleasure to discuss this subject

 

[Mare Imbrium]

I am also very interested in ctb with caffeine pills. It seems you have good ideas.

 

[ClownWorld2023]

I did try to CTB a really long time ago with supposed caffeine powder.

It was a catastrophic failure.
I did not notice any of the effects normally associated with caffeine, but I had to vomit for a while and it was quite agonizing.
I think the caffeine powder might have been fake.
It was cheap and sounded to good to be true.

Another time I tried it with those energy drinks. I drank like 6-7 large cans (500mL a can).
The effects of caffeine were noticeable unlike the above nonsense.
I do remember heart beating for a while, but nothing bad really happened.
The next day I had tingling in the legs and some other areas. This lasted for a while I think, like weeks atleast.


I don't really remember much other than that.
You'll need to find real caffeine powder, which will probably be expensive.

 

[Tsunami]

I am also very interested in ctb with caffeine pills. It seems you have good ideas.

I'm pretty sure it's possible to make this method quick and effective. I have never consumed coffee and I wonder how my heart would react to such a dose.

I did try to CTB a really long time ago with supposed caffeine powder.

It was a catastrophic failure.
I did not notice any of the effects normally associated with caffeine, but I had to vomit for a while and it was quite agonizing.
I think the caffeine powder might have been fake.
It was cheap and sounded to good to be true.

Another time I tried it with those energy drinks. I drank like 6-7 large cans (500mL a can).
The effects of caffeine were noticeable unlike the above nonsense.
I do remember heart beating for a while, but nothing bad really happened.
The next day I had tingling in the legs and some other areas. This lasted for a while I think, like weeks atleast.


I don't really remember much other than that.
You'll need to find real caffeine powder, which will probably be expensive.

How did you process ? How many g ? About energy drink seem impossible , the only way is pure powder or pills in my opinion.

 

[ClownWorld2023]

I'm pretty sure it's possible to make this method quick and effective. I have never consumed coffee and I wonder how my heart would react to such a dose.


How did you process ? How many g ? About energy drink seem impossible , the only way is pure powder or pills in my opinion.

I just tried to dissolve the powder into water, but even that proved to be difficult to do. I could not dissolve it all.
I think I tried to dissolve approx. 5-10g at a time in a glass of water. I don't really remember the amounts.

I tried to just drink it without fully dissolving it, but I remember I did not feel any of the effects associated with caffeine.
So either the powder was fake, or something else was going wrong.

This was a really long time ago though. I did not have any access to reliable suicide information at the time.

 

[Mare Imbrium]

I will buy capsules and open it.

 

[Tsunami]

I just tried to dissolve the powder into water, but even that proved to be difficult to do. I could not dissolve it all.
I think I tried to dissolve approx. 5-10g at a time in a glass of water. I don't really remember the amounts.

I tried to just drink it without fully dissolving it, but I remember I did not feel any of the effects associated with caffeine.
So either the powder was fake, or something else was going wrong.

This was a really long time ago though. I did not have any access to reliable suicide information at the time.

indeed if you didn't feel any effect probably it wasn't pure caffeine.. I wonder if mixing the powder with certain food is effective.. in fact I have lots of questions and it would be good if someone with medical knowledge could provide some information .
There was this case of the young student Sophia Benning, in the articles they say that she used her knowledge to achieve her goal. I don't think his knowledge concerned the dose of caffeine, anyone can find that online, but rather what to mix the powder with. Obviously neither newspaper articles nor medical reports mention this kind of information unfortunately

 

[Mare Imbrium]

But it must be clear, this is no peaceful pill, that will be hard to ctb.

 

[Tsunami]

That's why I'm looking for the best way to proceed. In certain medical reports, victims who called for help or someone was unconscious when they arrived, it must be possible to induce a certain speed of effects

 

[KillerIsMe]

If it was possible to do it with pills then it'd be more common. I have a box in my car right now for my night job, and you're telling me I can just take the box like it's Nembutal?

 

[Tsunami]

If it was possible to do it with pills then it'd be more common. I have a box in my car right now for my night job, and you're telling me I can just take the box like it's Nembutal?

Not like N obviously, N is an inaccessible dream. In the studies that I have read those who ingested pills took between 100 and 200 pills of 100 to 200mg, or a total of 10g to 40g. I suppose it's easier to ingest in powder form anyway. Take a look at this article there is a PDF link at the bottom of the page

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=fr&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=caffeine+suicide+case&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1699143090831&u=%23p%3DEXH4pd9XSZkJ

some examples found in the media, there are others revealed as accidental I will not list them all but there seem to be many cases.

Midlands student used scientific skills to kill herself

Sophia Benning, 24, was found dead in her room last March 19 at Byron House at Salford University

www.google.com

the sophia benning case, she did this in her university room without attracting any attention, I'm sure she managed to do this quickly and efficiently

Inquest finds that Hayling Island teenager killed himself by overdosing on powdered caffeine

A doctor has warned against the dangers of buying of caffeine online after a 17-year-old ordered 1kg of the drug and died by suicide after overdosing on it.

www.portsmouth.co.uk

another case a teenager in a children's home, in his room also probably quick and discreet too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-60570470.amp
accidental case but which seems just as rapid

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ws-story/9d96f2d0f7c1e13d7d0cdaa1f46795bd?amp
accidental too but once again seems quick and discreet, he lost consciousness in the bathroom of the family home and was unable to call for help or be heard which supposes to have been almost instantaneous

 

[Tsunami]

as explained in a scientific study that I read, many cases are not publicized or reported in medical reports. In all cases, people who did not contact emergency services themselves seem to have died each time. This method seems really feasible to me, you just have to find the right path to make it quick in my opinion.
This seems to me the most realistic way to induce cardiac arrest, I would just like to find what increases the speed. For example, is it having an empty stomach? Being already dehydrated at the time of ingestion? Lack of sleep? I really want to find these answers before practicing!

 

[Mare Imbrium]

Many customers of the the big Internet vendor complain, that different capsules or tablets have no effect.

 

[BLEH:3]

Would snorting the caffeine powder work For and od? I used to buy speed cut with caffeine powder like only 15% speed and git very good at snorting A LOT at a time.

 

[Tsunami]

Many customers of the the big Internet vendor complain, that different capsules or tablets have no effect.

As I told you, if you look at the medical reports and online articles, it definitely works. The goal is to find how to achieve maximum success with this method. This is not comparable to people who take a single pill to boost their energy. There is almost no chance of survival beyond 50g, read the articles online, there are even PDFs. Once again the question is not about feasibility but rather how to induce maximum success

Would snorting the caffeine powder work For and od? I used to buy speed cut with caffeine powder like only 15% speed and git very good at snorting A LOT at a time.

I dont think.. we need a lot and i never saw one medical report about a suicide case from snorting..

 

[Mare Imbrium]

But it seems that some pills have little effect - cheap production.

 

[Tsunami]

Yes it's possible, you have to look carefully at the comments. If I use this method I will favor any black coffee powder anyhdrous (green coffee diffuses slowly).

Does anyone have a genius idea to improve this method...? I'm going to have to try something again I can't wait any longer I've been living a nightmare 24/7 for months and big problems are coming

 

[dreamingofrest]

I didn't know this was a possibility, interesting! I guess you'd just have to be careful about what caffeine pills you buy.

 

[Tsunami]

I didn't know this was a possibility, interesting! I guess you'd just have to be careful about what caffeine pills you buy.

For sure it work. But my main concern is how to reach a high succes rate.. The only survivors were quickly rescued. And even when help intervened for some it was still fatal. There are so many cases and obviously not all are listed there must be many more

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/sjms/37/3/37_103/_html/-char/en 2 japanese case here

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ffeine_powder_New_challenge_for_public_health
this guy with only 13g, there is the report further down on the page and a table with other cases listed

 

[timeslipp]

Yes it's possible, you have to look carefully at the comments. If I use this method I will favor any black coffee powder anyhdrous (green coffee diffuses slowly).

Does anyone have a genius idea to improve this method...? I'm going to have to try something again I can't wait any longer I've been living a nightmare 24/7 for months and big problems are coming

I feel you on the nightmare part, gotta get mine done pretty soon as well

 

[Tsunami]

Has anyone tried this method recently? If yes, why did you fail?

Insufficient quantity?
Has anyone found you?
Did you call for help?
Other reasons?

 

[maynoname]

Hey. Have you tried this method ?

 

[so_mais_um]

I have read all the forum threads about this as well as spent hours reading medical reports. What I learned was that above 50g of caffeine, or around 4 to 5 times the lethal dose, there were only 2 survivors and these people called for help very quickly after ingestion. I have the impression that this method has a high success rate if emergency services are not contacted. I have read that several pharmacy or medical students have used this method, I suppose they did it the right way and that there are good reasons for choosing it. I'm wondering how to make this method as feasible as possible.

- Ingest everything at once as quickly as possible or ingest for example 10g by 10g every 5mins?
- Mix with water, use fruit juice or with redbull/coke?
- What position once the cocktail has been ingested to delay reflux as much as possible?

There are really many reported cases (some accidental but which seem unlikely to be an accident. Who ingests 50g or 250 pills unintentionally? many cases classified as undetermined but which seem just as voluntary). I am convinced that this method has potential and that many cases have never been reported.

Questions ? Suggestions ? It would be a pleasure to discuss this subject

Would using Clonazepam be counderproductive? Would it interfere?

 

[Dusk till dawn]

I did some research and indeed caffeine overdose can be lethal - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8824417/

The LD (lethal dose) of caffeine is estimated between 150 to 200 mg per kilogram

I tried finding how long it takes before you die of a caffeine overdose but i couldn't find anything regarding this matter

My only questions is how long it takes before you die once you've done a proper caffeine overdose, and what's the best and easiest way to overdose on caffeine other than IV? i know IV is the most effective method for any OD attempt, but most people here including me don't have the necessary knowledge and skill to do a proper IV, and swalloing large sums of any bitter substances especially in powder form is guaranteed to make you vomit regardless of how much antiemetics you take, i speak from my past personal experiences when i say swallowing such things is guaranteed to make you vomit

I believe mixing large sums of caffeine with energy drinks like cocacola can make it less bitter and possible to swallow, but would this work? And if it does, will it make an overdose attempt of caffeine less effective and potent?

Has anyone tried this method recently? If yes, why did you fail?

Insufficient quantity?
Has anyone found you?
Did you call for help?
Other reasons?

I tried this method and failed

My ingestion method was IV

I lack the necessary skill and knowledge to do a proper IV, when attempting to inject caffeine i hit a wrong nerve and pushing the caffeine through my vein wasn't working, it was just causing me immense pain/stress so i stopped trying to forcefully inject caffeine in my body since my setup was wrong, once i removed the needle i started bleeding rapidly

TLDR : I failed because my setup was improper

 

[lionetta12]

I have read all the forum threads about this as well as spent hours reading medical reports. What I learned was that above 50g of caffeine, or around 4 to 5 times the lethal dose, there were only 2 survivors and these people called for help very quickly after ingestion. I have the impression that this method has a high success rate if emergency services are not contacted. I have read that several pharmacy or medical students have used this method, I suppose they did it the right way and that there are good reasons for choosing it. I'm wondering how to make this method as feasible as possible.

- Ingest everything at once as quickly as possible or ingest for example 10g by 10g every 5mins?
- Mix with water, use fruit juice or with redbull/coke?
- What position once the cocktail has been ingested to delay reflux as much as possible?

There are really many reported cases (some accidental but which seem unlikely to be an accident. Who ingests 50g or 250 pills unintentionally? many cases classified as undetermined but which seem just as voluntary). I am convinced that this method has potential and that many cases have never been reported.

Questions ? Suggestions ? It would be a pleasure to discuss this subject

Maybe it's not similar for everyone, but caffeine pills and a accidental caffeine overdose on too many coffees as a student once, was probably the most painful physical experience of my life next to breaking my feet. I had insane cramps (similar to but worse than period cramps) in my stomach for an entire week and I couldn't stop vomiting. Wouldn't recommend this if it were to fail or if you are consuming capsules/pills, in coffee form orally or as powder.

 

[maniac116]

I have OD'd on caffeine pills & it feels AWFUL!
You're talking about almost 2 ounces of caffeine.
That's a ridiculous amount. The failure rate for this is 94%. Not recommended at all!!