Scared of what’s going to happen after death

[restingspot]

I lean on the belief that whatever your consciousness has built up during your life experiences will continue to persist after your sentience fades.

I tend to get scared because science cannot prove the soul exists, ergo when we die, we are meat, never to whisper to another person again. But science can't prove a lot of things just yet.

Maybe there is an afterlife. Maybe reincarnation does exist. We don't know. We'll never know. All we know is life comes into this world and life goes out every day.

On the plus side, whatever is hurting you in life is not able to reach you when you're engulfed in Death's loving embrace.

 

[Zoya]

I think these thoughts are awakened by a theme that many try to instill in us and that is "religion". When religion ceases to matter to us, these thoughts are not as developed.

 

[Deleted member 17949]

I think these thoughts are awakened by a theme that many try to instill in us and that is "religion". When religion ceases to matter to us, these thoughts are not as developed.

I'd say the idea of something after death is only natural, but the irrational fear of that something being a kind of punishment that some people have is religious. We tend to project human ideals onto the afterlife as if it's going to obey some of the same rules that our current lives do, but really we have no clue what happens and shouldn't bother worrying.

 

[AbsoluteNothingness]

I really hope and wish there's just nothing. The thought of it being start of a new and different type of life/existence or reincarnation scares me and its so depressing . Ew fuck no, i just want to fade away. Not exist again going back to Earth or in another form of existence /life. What a nightmare. I just want to cease to exist forever, and just be nothing for all eternity. The thought of death being eternal nothingness/oblivion and just non-existence brings me a lot of relief and comfort. I really hope death is that, just nothing, just me disappearing permanently and becoming nothing

 

[Pan]

You are NOT hostile; I welcome this debate. Nietzche "suggested" the possibility of eternal return. As for Hinduism, the soul is eternal; it cannot be destroyed. When the soul leaves the body, The body automatically decomposes; it cannot live or thrive without soul. The universe did not create you; you created the universe. Quantum physics has much to say about the myth of death; mind you, this can only be intuitive, because we have no knowledge of the so-called zone of unknowing. Look at the writings of Robert Lanza (you can find it on the web). He constructed a gravestone; it reads "here lies absolutely no one". Square that with Hinduism, which states in the Bhagavad Gita: nothing can destroy this indestructible soul", and at death, we live again, in a multiverse of possibilities. Indians know this; I think of my trip to Benares, on the Ganges river. There were the flaming bodies of the dead; some ten or so feet away, children were swimming the water full of cinders. Finally, the great 18th century philosopher Voltaire said. "Of course I lived before; I live NOW." Death is an illusion. I do not know this; I feel it, and sense that it is right. Read Lanza and the Bhagavad Gita.

"You will return as you, to infinity". I'm not sure what this means. Could you elaborate?
"...you will be reborn as you." What do you mean? Hinduism says that there is rebirth, but not that you are reborn as you. It's reincarnation in another body based on karma.
Nietzsche had the theory of eternal recurrence but I think this was more an existential thought experiment than a cosmological theory based on objective evidence.

"Quantum physics suggests the same". Really? I'm not sure quantum physics has anything to say about life after death, souls or reincarnation.
Sorry, I don't mean to come across as hostile to what you said, I'm just not sure I agree with some parts, from what I understand.

Karma is paid in full at death of the body.
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You will awaken!

There are several very large and elaborate and superb websites all about life after death. if you have trouble finding them you can pm me.

Believe me, you have nothing to fear; you will awaken and live again, free of all attachments in this life, and ready to take on the next life fresh. I personally, can't wait for death, knowing that I am free to take on the next life AS ME. I know this can be hard to grasp; it eludes out Mortal minds. This life is only a rung on the ladder; I cannot stress enough that you read about biocentrism and Robert Lanza. You are immortal.

What you believe happens will largely depend on your religious views.

Some religions believe that the human soul or consciousness lives on after death, and goes to heaven or someplace similar. So in that situation, you presumably experience your last few moments of life, and then suddenly the scene changes to whatever venue and with your body in whatever form that the religion believes. Or maybe there is some delay or transition period. I'm not a theologian.

For those of us who are not religious, then the belief (and scientific consensus) is that your consciousness will simply stop existing. There will be nothing, no thoughts, no awareness, nothing. You will be in the exact same state of non-existence that you were before you were ever conceived [1]. For those people who are finding life unbearable, and thus choose to suicide, this should be seen as a preferable state of affairs by comparison.

If you are feeling significant amounts of anxiety about the absence of consciousness (or afterlife) after death, then it is perhaps a sign that you are not yet ready to be considering suicide.

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[1] Did not use the term 'born' here, because obviously there is fetal consciousness before birth.

You indicated that these views are based on religion; nothing could be further from the truth. Hard science prevails here, not faith.

 

[Raminiki]

Logic suggests it's nothingness. I can't remember pre-birth and don't expect to after death. There is no God, only the chaotic and random and indifferent universe.

But... I've had many experiences through life that suggest something outside of human understanding is going on. I also have past life memories. In all likelihood they're false memories, but the thing is, not only have a couple of gifted strangers confirmed details of it to me, but I'm reliving important events from my memories. It's not deliberate. I fall into the same traps I remember from before because I don't really believe I remember and don't take it seriously.

It happened that I went through life changing moments at the same age as before. I remember that I killed myself intentionally after a seven year stretch of grief and misery. I'm within those seven years again and I'm heading for that same conclusion. It's not all foregone as I've changed a few things through force of will.

If I went through it all before and had to go through it all again as as consequence of cutting short my life, my greatest fear is that if I do it again, I'll have to go through it all yet again in another parallel life. I've even been specifically warned against doing that by one of those gifted people. They told me in our first meeting I was suicidal, how could they have known what I hid when they'd never known me?

Why, after killing myself the first time, would I volunteer to come back and do it all again? If I didn't volunteer, was I forced? If I was forced, then the after is no place of idyll or endless peace.

I tend to think I was unable to overcome my grief and let go of the torments that drove me to suicide. That attachment, that ego, clung on and doomed itself to a repeat. Only if I overcome those attachments and abandon all self will I avoid it again. But if I die the same way, because those attachments drive me to it, then yep, I'm doomed.

Only if it's nothingness will I have a satisfactory conclusion. But I'll only find out which is true by doing it.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

mind you, this can only be intuitive

I do not know this; I feel it

You could be right, I'm not saying anything you've said is wrong, but you yourself admit that your claims are based on intuition, feeling, not scientific evidence.
You quote Voltaire, but he also said "a witty saying proves nothing".

The universe did not create you; you created the universe

This sounds very deep, but it could also just be pseudo-mystical woo woo a la deepak chopra.

Quantum physics has much to say about the myth of death

I think I need to be more clear. I agree that some quantum physicists and scientists have views about life after death, and may even use quantum physics to speculate about this, but so far it is only speculation or educated guesswork, not established science. A quantum physicist speculating about the afterlife is not the same as a quantum physics experiment demonstrating something about the afterlife.

If you could point me to peer-reviewed academic papers published in physics journals which demonstrate life after death or anything to do with death based on quantum mechanics, then I will admit you're right.
I haven't read robert lanza, but I know that he isn't a quantum physicist, he is primarily a biologist. I will try to read his book on biocentrism though, sounds interesting.

Having said all this, I hope you are right. I hope there is something after death, and that that something is better, magical, transcendent.

If I was forced, then the after is no place of idyll or endless peace.

No, it sounds like hell.

These past lives you say you remember, are they completely different lives, like you as different people in the past?

What I don't understand is, if you cbt and come back because of attachment and ego, then wouldn't that also be the case for people who die accidentally or of old age or an illness? Wouldn't they also be 'doomed' to a repeat because of ego, attachment etc?

If anything, those who ctb are much less attached to their ego than people who want to live and don't want to die. Most people who ctb are depressed and depression messes with self-esteem, self-worth, enjoyment, pleasure. Therefore a person who ctb's is less likely to be attached to ego, desire etc.

Anyway, If what you describe is true, then existence really is hell. I pray that if there is something outside of human understanding, if there is another realm of consciousness, then it is a realm of peace and rest. We suffer enough on this earth, and I think suicidal people deserve compassion and peace after death.

 

[Pan]

Again, I only gather this intuitively and make no definitive claims. I only know that when I went to Benares and read the Bhagavad Gita, the insight, if you will, hit me hard. When we die, for whatever reason, the karmic bill is marked paid in full. Nothingness cannot be conceived. That which cannot be conceived cannot exist. Something must follow something.
For Christ to be called THE son of god is the height of arrogance, I feel. We are all gods.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Again, I only gather this intuitively and make no definitive claims. I only know that when I went to Benares and read the Bhagavad Gita, the insight, if you will, hit me hard. When we die, for whatever reason, the karmic bill is marked paid in full. Nothingness cannot be conceived. That which cannot be conceived cannot exist. Something must follow something.
For Christ to be called THE son of god is the height of arrogance, I feel. We are all gods.

So do you think when we die we will no longer experience the effects of karma?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

There is some truth in all the religions. All roads lead home.

There is a great variance. If you formed a close and loving bond, or bonds, you can stay together, or you can begin anew in a new form with your loved ones, and eventually you will remember all your lives together; or if you wish, or are so adjudged, to forget part or all and start anew, that too can happen. A few might even choose to roam the world as ghosts for a while, but that is quite rare considering the unimaginatively wondrous options that await in so many spheres in the great universe, forward and backward in time too I think.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

You won't be yourself anymore so there's nothing to worry about if your consciousness disappears. All you know ends so your fears and worries. Hugs

 

[WornOutLife]

(Bad English ahead)
Hi, I was fantasizing about ctb and when it got to the end I got anxiety and was really scared. What is going to happen after I die, will I just disappear? It's just so hard to grasp my mind around it, my consciousness will be gone, I will have no thoughts.. it's weird. I don't understand, it makes me scared of death. What is goin to happen? Everytime I start thinking about it I get pretty bad anxiety.

Hi! I keep wondering what the hell will happen when I CTB but unlike many people, I'm not scared at all and I hope these words make you feel more relaxed with these two posibilities:

1) You yourself said: "will my consciousness and thoughts be gone?"

If being dead is like this, you won't even care because it'll be just like before you were born. So, this is actually really cool.

2) Somehow, consciousness lives on eternally or life in any form goes on.

Well, in this case there are many theories and religions but, I can bet for sure that such a dumb thing as "hell" does not exist at all. If there's one, this world is definitely that place. Why? Because babies die, criminals get away with their crimes, those who govern the countries tend to be trash, good people get terrible sicks, people are raped, etc.

So, if after death there is something else, I bet it's better at least than this world.

All my money is in the simulation theory. When we're gone, everything will be black and then we'll see lots of lights and someone will ask: "So, did you enjoy the game? What was the experience like and how long did you live?"

 

[lifeisbutadream]

"All my money is in the simulation theory. When we're gone, everything will be black and then we'll see lots of lights and someone will ask: "So, did you enjoy the game? What was the experience like and how long did you live?"

Yes, something like that.

 

[Hydration]

I was born into a VERY fundamentalist Christian family. And even now that I have long since abandoned Christianity, and I now consider myself a staunch agnostic, I still fear hell. Just wish I could've had atheist parents.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I was born into a VERY fundamentalist Christian family. And even now that I have long since abandoned Christianity, and I now consider myself a staunch agnostic, I still fear hell. Just wish I could've had atheist parents.

I don't fear hell, but I long for some version of heaven.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

I don't fear hell, but I long for some version of heaven.

It doesn't even have to be heaven, anything that's even slightly better than this world.

 

[next-season .?]

You will not turn into a butterfly, a bee, algae, a so called subhuman. You have reached the apex of existence as human; you can go no farther. You will return as you, to infinity. Not only will you reborn as human, you will be reborn as You. Apart from Hindu belief, even German Philospher Nietzche. articulated this. Quantum physics suggests the same. You are you forever.. sure, things will be different; you karma makes good on the debt. You are cleansed; you are FREE. People make a big mistake when the think that happiness precedes freedom. It is the other way around.

this is imagination man evry human can imagine any thing but in the end u just die and u are forever gone

 

[TAW122]

What helped me overcome what is to come after death is that I imagined death to be similar to what one was like before one was born (conceived). Before one came into existence, there was nothing, no conscious, no feeling, no memories, not even perception of nothingness. When I was young, I was hesitant of death as I didn't understand it, but as I grew older, gained self-awareness, and rational, logical, & critical thinking skills, my fears subsided as I believed that after life, it would be something similar to nothingness.

With that said, while nobody (beyond a reasonable doubt) of what happens after death, we just know (from the people who are still alive and conscious) that said person who is dead is no longer suffering. Religious people would believe in an afterlife, though I don't personally believe in one because from simple logic, there is no prelife (before one is conceived) so there is unlikely (in my view) that there is an afterlife. Objectively speaking, we are just molecules and matter that process energy and are just complex chemical reactions as far as the universe is concerned (from the universe's point of view; if the 'universe' is considered a person).

 

[NoGlorySoul]

Logic suggests it's nothingness. I can't remember pre-birth and don't expect to after death. There is no God, only the chaotic and random and indifferent universe.

But... I've had many experiences through life that suggest something outside of human understanding is going on. I also have past life memories. In all likelihood they're false memories, but the thing is, not only have a couple of gifted strangers confirmed details of it to me, but I'm reliving important events from my memories. It's not deliberate. I fall into the same traps I remember from before because I don't really believe I remember and don't take it seriously.

It happened that I went through life changing moments at the same age as before. I remember that I killed myself intentionally after a seven year stretch of grief and misery. I'm within those seven years again and I'm heading for that same conclusion. It's not all foregone as I've changed a few things through force of will.

If I went through it all before and had to go through it all again as as consequence of cutting short my life, my greatest fear is that if I do it again, I'll have to go through it all yet again in another parallel life. I've even been specifically warned against doing that by one of those gifted people. They told me in our first meeting I was suicidal, how could they have known what I hid when they'd never known me?

Why, after killing myself the first time, would I volunteer to come back and do it all again? If I didn't volunteer, was I forced? If I was forced, then the after is no place of idyll or endless peace.

I tend to think I was unable to overcome my grief and let go of the torments that drove me to suicide. That attachment, that ego, clung on and doomed itself to a repeat. Only if I overcome those attachments and abandon all self will I avoid it again. But if I die the same way, because those attachments drive me to it, then yep, I'm doomed.

Only if it's nothingness will I have a satisfactory conclusion. But I'll only find out which is true by doing it.

Hey man that's script of DARK web series lol

 

[AlreadyGone]

I try not to get scared because we have to face death sooner or later. Everyone does. I just accept that whatever happens, just happens.

 

[Empty77]

(Bad English ahead)
Hi, I was fantasizing about ctb and when it got to the end I got anxiety and was really scared. What is going to happen after I die, will I just disappear? It's just so hard to grasp my mind around it, my consciousness will be gone, I will have no thoughts.. it's weird. I don't understand, it makes me scared of death. What is goin to happen? Everytime I start thinking about it I get pretty bad anxiety.

I think a lot of people would understand your rational with this. I mean, until we actually do go, however and whenever that may be, we none of us know. I actually don't fear death itself, it's just what comes after. I found faith and although I believe that we can leave our sins at the foot of the cross, part of me did wonder for a long while whether that actually comes with conditions - i.e. dependant upon the sin/s. Now, I'm really content that when I finally do go, I'll be free of the hurt, pain and fear that once was - I do not believe that once we've gone from here, that it's the end - I guess that's where I struggle because I feel that those sins I struggle to forgive myself for will always be a part of who I once was. The fact we can leave them at the foot of the cross means they all stay there and we leave with a clean slate - no regrets! That's a nice thought to hold on to - better than any horrid alternative, surely?! Prayers and thoughts to you xx

 

[Raminiki]

Hey man that's script of DARK web series lol

What's that? I haven't seen it. Sounds like it may be of interest!

 

[SodaBaconWeed]

Eternity terrifies me. I don't see how living forever is possible in some afterlife when you have to account for not going insane from having nothing to do. If the next universe can somehow keep me peacefully occupied then ok but that's what makes me think there isn't one as well.

 

[NoGlorySoul]

What's that? I haven't seen it. Sounds like it may be of interest!

It is web series on Netflix, highly recommended if time travel kind of plots interest you.

 

[Pan]

I know you are not hostile; my position is highly subjective and intuitive and hardly scientific; I grope, I grapple with these issues obsessively, all the while knowing that I simply don't have the answer. Humans are not like other life forms however; they can envision their own end. Perhaps my groping is symptomatic of my suicidal ideation, yes? Perhaps the best thing I could do would be to save a life at the risk of my own. That, I think, would make it all worth it.

 

[Pan]

So do you think when we die we will no longer experience the effects of karma?

Yes. The bill (karma) is marked "paid in full".

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Yes. The bill (karma) is marked "paid in full".

Why is that? Even if a person has been really bad, it is still "paid in full"?

 

[NoGlorySoul]

Why is that? Even if a person has been really bad, it is still "paid in full"?

Yeah I feel that can't be true, a soul isn't redeemed until it gets free from body without any sins and if time isn't a quantity for soul hence we can born in any thread in time. Like, even if you die today you may will take back birth in World War 2 era or somewhere 100 years from now or tomorrow depending on how stable your energy gets after you've died. It will be hard to process since I came up with this theory, lol

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

I lean on the belief that whatever your consciousness has built up during your life experiences will continue to persist after your sentience fades.

I tend to get scared because science cannot prove the soul exists, ergo when we die, we are meat, never to whisper to another person again. But science can't prove a lot of things just yet.

Maybe there is an afterlife. Maybe reincarnation does exist. We don't know. We'll never know. All we know is life comes into this world and life goes out every day.

On the plus side, whatever is hurting you in life is not able to reach you when you're engulfed in Death's loving embrace.

Never say never though.
We don't know if humans, somehow, can find out in the future. ;)

 

[Pan]

Why is that? Even if a person has been really bad, it is still "paid in full"?

Because karma governs the cause and effect in this liife. This is why, for example, Indians are for capital punishment. Karmically, they believe they are doing you a favor b hanging you, so that you are free of bad karma With the end of this life. next life.